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1 minute ago, Harry said:

Totally different situations. 
Their defender had a long ball option on, because we were playing quite high, were left 4 on 4 because the 2 CM’s were in the opposition half and the 2 wingers were level with the 2 forwards. We were in a 4-2-4 shape with 30 seconds to go!!! Go figure! 
Their defender had an option that was a good one. James not keeping the ball in midfield and just kicking an aimless ball forward gave them possession from which they scored 7 seconds later. 

This

1 minute ago, Simon bristol said:

We all know that anyone decent was sold off and replaced with academy lads or first teamers who were inferior to what was sold, in an effort to stabilise the finances. He inherited a shambles and left us a solid mid table team with tens of millions in the bank,,, manning comes in as a super coach trying to introduce a passing game that only 1 or 2 players in the squad are technically able to cope with, when we had been building towards a fast counter team and bringing lads like knight in to play that way.

Don't disagree with what pearson had to to do to turn the club around but my point still remains. Pearsons tactics have fewer shots in a game, the time we have 1 shot on target in 45 minutes people jump down mannings throat. Just feels people cherry pick facts for their arguments just to be right all the time. 

Some of our passing play yesterday at certain points was the best I've seen for a few seasons now and it's gonna take time to implement, and people that just bang on about top 6 side lansdowns said need to grow up. 

Conway needs to shape up real quick l, if it was cornick that has played the way he has since his brace off the bench, there would be threads on how shit he is and how he's just not good enough (pearson bought cornick btw).

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

We had 1 shot on target in 2nd half and it was just a tame effort by Conway.

What about the games under Pearson that we had sometimes 1 shot on target throughout the game, I didnt recall you being critical about it then.

Just now, glynriley said:

100% we don’t lose that game under Nige. JL And Tinnion have a lot to answer for in my. I reckon we’ll have a different coach this time next year 

100% ffs I've been to a few games where we have chucked games away under Pearson  

Football in general alot better today so far

5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

It’s pathetic that people need to try to resort to digs at the old manager to be positive about the new one.

The performance last night was good but had parallels - good and bad - to numerous other away games this season, including Leeds, our last game at a relegated team. We competed and were tough to concede against last night but we competed and were tough to concede against under Pearson too.

What remains to be seen is whether we can perform better at the start of halves and whether we can make better decisions at both ends of the pitch. Those are the challenges Pearson would have faced if he stayed and the same ones Manning faces now.

FWIW I quite like some of the little tweaks Manning has made to make us more fluid and flexible during games but time will tell if they translate into results. 

It's quite pathetic to resort to digs at our new manager to try to be positive about the old one (in my opinion)

2 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

I didn't say it did, I said we should be more than just 'hopeful' against these sort of teams if we want to be competing amongst them. There are probably 8 teams with a bigger financial advantage than us but we have been told we should be competing at the top end of the table, rather than just 'hoping' to.

Hopeful is fair in my opinion as I'm hopeful in every game we play that we can win it, blaming cornick without a mention of Conway is a little harsh I think.

Ah well let's just win on Sunday instead

1 hour ago, robinforlife2 said:

I am quite surprised having read a number of the threads overnight. 

People seem to be moaning about what they think was a poor display. Having watched the game last night, we more than matched Southampton, a team who will be one of the favs to go straight back up, for all of the first half, if anything we were on top, such to that, the St Mary's Crowd booed their team at half time.

I've read about players being singled out, and people saying the football is poor under Manning. I think these people must have watched a different game to me.

In the first half, we played on the counter and pressed them, we had a couple of great chances, one denied by a quality save. We had Southampton, somewhat, on the ropes.

The second half, Southampton came out all guns blazing and a world class strike put them in front. I thought we then battled hard. The loss of Naismith, one of our better players in the game was a huge blow, but I saw plenty to like about the way we moved the ball.

It's fair to say, we did't afford them any cruising period and defended well and prevented any serious attack from Southampton. In the final 15 minutes, despite leaving ourselves somewhat exposed, we pressed and had a couple of fair chances to get back level. Perhaps the most telling was Cornick going 5 yards to far, rather than crossing in for Mehmati who would have been one on one and instead, trying to get that extra yard and getting tackled. I thought Tanner, and TGH put some great passes in, linked up play well, and on the break we had Southampton exposed. Mehmeti was problematic on the ball for them, and Cornick was not afraid to get stuck in. Perhaps the biggest problem was, despite their movement and helping us break forward, there was a lack of end product. I have said on multiple occasions, we are really missing Nahki Wells, a player who cause es defenders nightmares, and is very unselfish, and that was telling tonight. 

But we weren't bad, yes we were wasteful, but we deserved at least a draw from the game. We limited a team who had on average scored over 2 goals a game this season, to pot shots and but for a wonder goal, would have gone home with a point.

People are saying that we need to be doing better to be top 6, top 10 etc, but it still remains we are 5pts off the playoffs, with a number of injuries, and a team just learning what a new manager wants. Those who are still missing Nige, seem to find fault in everything, just because Nige isn't here. But the fact is, we had looked pretty soft and poor up top, under Nige, so whilst I get some people may say little has changed, I would actually say, what we have seen in the last three games from Tanner, TGH and Mehmeti, has been a vast improvement from what we've seen earlier in the campaign. 

We are clearly lacking an in form fox in the box, but as soon as it's back to Wells, Sykes and Conway leading the line, with Bell, Mehmeti and Cornick in reserves, we won't struggle for creating chances, as there are multiple formations which work. What we are lacking is leadership on the pitch, and I think a lot a lot of that comes in missing Wells, maybe Matty James and Knight need to work harder in my opinion, but the makings are there.

I am not sure the answer is more forward players in January. We have 6 already, and whilst injuries have limited us, I would rather see a sensible back up keeper, and possibly one more cover at the back. 

It was not a bad performance, and we were unfortunate, wasteful if you like, but Southampton have a lot of quality we don't have, and with our new model, we are going to have to work with what we got. I don't think top ten is impossible and on another night we could have gone in half time 1-0 up and probably ground out a win.

The result, did not reflect how well we played and I feel people are just looking for faults and picking at things, because they are unhappy with the last month and how "their messiah" was replaced. He's gone, move on, we weren't as bad as people are making out, and whilst Manning wouldn't have been my first choice, I am encouraged by the early signs. 

The amount of people that seem to be waiting for him to fail is a joke, it's bordering on hoping he fails to prove a point.

9 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

But if the expectation (of the board) is top 6 we should be more than just 'hopeful' against this kind of side. We played well enough to come away with a point, despite a poor second half.

Despite the second half, if Cornick crosses to Knight, one pace  / step earlier or Mehmeti doesn't fall over his own feet in the box we could and should have had a late equaliser.

I'm not saying we didn't play well enough, our best finisher needs to be finishing those first half chances, but Southampton have a gurt big massive financial advantage and player pull than us just because jon lansdown says top 6 it does not negate the fact. 

17 minutes ago, 95red said:

Big if ,what's more concerning  is not having a clue to come back from one down .

It's happened once, against a side that let's be fair we were hopeful against at best , I will judge against lesser opposition personally

If Conway took his chances this forum would be dare I say it, a positive place 

Mad that people want this club to be more fan friendly but in turn want rid of a club legend that does his best to engage with fans home and away. 

I agree that it's just unlucky and couldn't forseen but... I'm pretty confident if Lee Johnson had signed him there would be a few blaming him mind you

Liam Mannings cider army

8 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Heywood? Grant Smith? Bridges? Stewart? Partridge? Gillespie? 

Plus who can ever forget Tony Dinning, what a signing he was.

This just isn’t true, more of his signings were total duds, even if GJ (a manager light years ahead of him) managed to make something of a couple of them.
 

Dinning looked fantastic while earning a contract

Bridges and Stewart at that time were incredible...on paper

Why are people holding JL to what is said in a pr interview, he's always going to big us up for the players sakes and fans sake, imagine he came out and said mid-table at best don't even think of play offs, there would be pages and pages of people slagging off his approach and how it does not put us in a good light for a new manager aswel as crushing the squads confidence. 

No-one believes a politician so why is this any different

2 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

I have no hatred for rovers personally. I don't even see them as rivals anymore. Cardiff are bigger rivals imo. I would not be disappointed if they appointed Nige. It would be the best thing for them to do. I would also wish him success until the point we are at the same level as them. 

If city drew rovers in the Cup  vs Cardiff in the league what match are you trying harder to get tickets for?

8 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Not at all, there was no press, Knight was playing deep and didn’t suit him, the movement was statuesque. We couldn’t string a pass together! 

 

Each to their own, let's hope next game is some sort of improvement

5 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Yet the manager played a completely different game on Sat which meant the players looked lost. I’m not convinced at all, by interviews, or what I saw as first impressions. But good luck to all. 

I thought the games tactical approach was very similar to most games this season

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

There was very little that could be taken from our past half a dozen games, or indeed from much of the season as a whole, to justify such optimism that we would have "100%" beaten QPR.

For starters, we haven't won back-to-back games in 32 attempts - all under Nige, in case you'd forgotten. But you are "100%" sure that after struggling to beat 10 man bottom-of-the-table Sheff Wed, we'd have comfortably secured another win? 

I mean it's just nonsense. Same as your comment earlier in the thread that Nige would have had us "challenging for the play-offs". Again, there was no evidence in performances so far this season that that was going to happen. Yes, the division is quite tight at the moment so it looks like we're within touching distance of them, but I haven't come across a single City fan who thinks we're a top 6 side based on performances so far this season. Not one. We're miles off it. 

Like a breath of fresh air this post is

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Agree, I’m pretty happy we got 4 points from these two games. I saw them as a pair of real banana skins whoever was in charge, because we have had injuries (a few returned under Fleming for the SW game). Both opponents with new managers. And above all, it’s the Championship.  With City being the type of team they are I rarely go into a match super-confident we are gonna win.  For some reason I was versus Plymouth, but not sure where that gut feel came from!

We just need to give LM time.

Watch his patterns, see how players adapt / fit into that, etc, etc.

The good thing for me on Saturday was that despite QPR having a decent spell (15 mins???) of “pressure” (retracting my use of the word dominance yesterday”), we were solid, the defensive foundations are there / still there, and we didn’t look like relinquishing the 0-0 scoreline we started the game with.  A bit of luck with 2 or 3 balls slid across the 6 yard box and we maybe get the 3 points.  We again looked strong in the latter moments of games.

I feel so confident in our defence at the moment especially the centre backs its strange  

7 minutes ago, kmpowell said:

Nail on the head. A Championship side should not be relying on 1x 21 year old to score their goals.

Tommy needs decent & consistent service from a capable midfield, plus a strike partner to support/match/bounce off. Things which are totally lacking right now. 

My son got a pic with him after the game on Saturday, and when reflecting on the game and also looking at the picture on the train home, it really struck me the heavy  'ask' on Tommy's young shoulders right now.

Personally I think it would be a crying shame if anybody begins to start questioning his performances, let's get behind him and start demanding what he requires, not what we require from him. Then we can start to judge his capabilities.

 

Agree with some of it, he's really got some talent and agree no1 should be on his back and he will come good I truly believe.

The age thing I dont agree with, for me 21 is old enough in football to have responsibility ( tammy was younger and took it in his stride) strikers know their role in a team as do every other position on the pitch. 

But yeah once he gets a goal I think his season will take a massive upturn 

Up the city 

11 minutes ago, Kibs said:

Let’s remember who we are playing???

You talk as if we are prime Man City!!

Saturday was crap. No doubt. Don’t disagree but that’s football. 

QPR are sooooo bad that they nearly took points off Leicester in their last home game. Despite playing the last 35 minutes with 10 men, losing 1-2 to a late goal. 

I fully expect QPR looked at it and thought, bang average Bristol City next, what a great chance to get a win under the new manager.

Sorry to disappoint you but we are an average championship side, with players injured, players coming back to fitness, players out of form, a team out of form, not full of confidence and we’ve struggled to score goals all season……so how can you be so sure we win that with NP in charge?  

You can’t. Absolute nonsense. We have no divine right to beat anybody.

There is so much more to it which you refuse to acknowledge because it doesn’t suit your agenda and your view of football is so simplistic. 

Totally agree mate, how can you be so confident pearsons team would of beaten that team, when we have seen a pearson team get battered by a league 1 club before. Too many to here think football is like fifa or fm (including those that scream lansdown should **** off and sell up like he can put the club on ebay). The same people would blame lansdown if he sold the club to an awful owner.

I hate international breaks