Nogbad the Bad

Agree. Even if the results start improving his style of football is unwatchable.

It's not like the old days, with CCTV they will quite happily chuck out those seen to be overly venting their feelings and ban agitators. I've just heard an advert on the radio for listeners to buy tickets for forthcoming City games, proclaiming it to be the 'perfect family day out'. That's what they want and that's it's come to - the rest of us passionate fans 'who want them to listen' are a bit of an incovenience that can be sorted out with the passage of time.

The first priority imo is to get Manning out. I'd prefer NW to the end of the season - no longer - rather than Manning. Perhaps it was meant to be, if only very short term. The chances are remote to nil though, especially as relegation is not a great concern. What comes next is a secondary consideration to me at this stage. Manning has to go. We'll have breathing space to think about it and hopefully decision makers have learnt their lesson and will make a far more suitable appointment. Meanwhile In house most likely to see out the season and Andy King would do nicely.

Definitely still in Clifton CA. He moved house a couple of years ago, but stayed in Clifton.

Still living in Clifton.

Me too, fingers crossed.

But even more so if they don't sack him. The longer they leave it the worse it gets for them, us and the club. It would actually be in their favour to hold their hands up, humbly admit it hasn't worked, and give a new man time to set up his squad for next season. With the 2 week break no better time to do the deed than tonight imo. Might make at least a few of 4-5k STH's rethink about deserting the club too.

I think the ST renewal figures will shock them so much they'll be forced to take action, however red-faced it makes them.

I have, on both counts, but there's a cumulative effect from numerous past boardroom cock-ups and for many yet another kick in the goolies with the sacking of NP to be replaced by LM feels like the final passion killing straw. As things stand that's exactly how I feel tonight.

A broken record.

Well, I'm saying the sooner Manning threads can be moved to the Ex-players and managers forum (that barely anyone wanted, reads or contributes to) because he's been sacked, the better. I was addressing it, fairly lightheartedly, to the poster who specifically asked for the new forum. Is that a problem Phants?

Certainly would, cheering me up no end already!

You surely underestimate your influence. Why else would your public request for a new forum (which most posters didn't want) lead to what you wanted quickly being set up? Low viewing figures and the miniscule number of new recent posts suggests very few visitors so the outcome is interesting posts may be missed because so few can be bothered to visit an extra forum.

Not sure we had these extensive interviews 20 years ago, it's more of a recent thing? It suits interesting characters like NP, I was more than happy to listen to his 30 minute press conferences and very often they went in a flash. LM's are a complete turn off because he's not engaging and doesn't appear to have anything interesting to say so even though his interviews are much shorter than Nige's it's extremely hard to maintain concentration or interest. Or, increasingly, bother with them at all.

Different they may be but both utterly intolerable in their own way nonetheless.

All LM posts here? With any luck they can soon be moved to the new forum you did so much to instigate RO - All things ex-players and managers!

Me too, about 76-78. And Saturday lunchtimes too, when they trialed it for a bit, in the summer I think so didn't interfere with going down the Gate. Remember Stairway to Heaven and the massive queues for the Ladies just before the slow spot so they wouldn't get asked to dance Plus they always played Hi Ho Silver Lining near the end, so we had to outshout any Rovers fans, and there were a few football scraps afterwards walking up the hill.

They did. I was late renewing one year and received a phone call from the club saying they were sorry I hadn't renewed, was there any particular reason, and it would be very much appreciated it if I did. If they don't still do this they should, it makes a big difference as a fan to know that they actually care whether you're there or not, and many will be persuaded by a personal touch. I can't find the link but I think it was Forest a few years ago who contacted lapsed STH's, a very large number at the time, offering them a free match ticket. They were very much talking about reinvigorating a love affair iirc, saying really wanted them back and the free ticket was an opportunity for these fans to get back in the ground and, hopefully, get that love for their club back.

Don't see how that would work in practice. I doubt the club have any record of my attendance from 1970 to at least 1997 when I first got a ST because I wouldn't have dreamt of getting one even though I barely missed a home game. My discount next season will be 85 quid or 17.5 %. I actually think it should be more.

Don't mistake your wealthy customers in a well off area to the average Bristol City fan. Many pensioners are not only not well off, in fact far from it, and in the case of City fans will probably have been paying into the club man and boy for 50-60 years. Do you think City get many new fans aged 65+? Whatever way you look at it, pensionable age or discount for long service following the club they damn well deserve a discount.

I don't think it will be the fans who spend half the game getting pissed in the concourse who won't renew, many of them seem to be having a great laugh no matter the result or performance. More like those who've identified themselves as City fanatics for decades but now find themselves bored stiff and morose at what used to be a highlight of their week. The football is (or was) everything to them, pints on board or not, and will never be just a part of the day or a secondary consideration. As you said earlier it will be interesting to see what happens but I do think it's different this time and the club are in for a really big shock.

A lot less imo - I think you're hugely underestimating the mutiny we're about to see. It's been rubbish entertainment down there for many years (average 8 home wins per season in the last 9 seasons?) and I think with the diabolical treatment of NP and a less than inspiring replacement this is the year fans finally follow through on their threats not to renew by actually doing it. So many fans are pissed off with Bristol City FC and the continuing dreadful decisions that drain all hope and I wouldn't be at all surprised at a mass desertion by several thousand.

If, as described by the OP, they were '2 little boys who couldn't have been more than 11 years old', they may not even have reached the age of criminal responsibility. Give them a good telling off, but to manhandle and ban children seems concerning and OTT to me.

If Manning is still here next season sparse crowds like today will be the norm. He's a crashing bore, his football is excruciatingly tedious, the atmosphere around the club is dead, and there's absolutely nothing for fans to be excited about.

Thanks SJ, but I prefer being an ordinary supporter and can't think of anything worse than getting involved behind the scenes with the hierarchy at your favourite club. Put you off for life I should think. Too old and knackered now anyway - to think I was relatively young when I started posting on OTIB! From those on here I reckon @GrahamC would fit the bill as a straight talker, and I imagine @CliftonCliff might shake things up a bit too. A fan representative - isn't that what the Supporters Trust was originally all about? ?