Tim S Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Not happy with the fact they sold out their own end..... they are trying to muscle in on Doncasters ticket allocation. I really really hope that Doncaster thrash them on Sunday! BBC News Doncaster Vs Leeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Not happy with the fact they sold out their own end..... they are trying to muscle in on Doncasters ticket allocation. I really really hope that Doncaster thrash them on Sunday! BBC News Doncaster Vs Leeds Cant see why you would criticise Leeds fans for trying to buy tickets in the Doncaster end - plenty of City fans have done the same at sold out away games. AND - here is what I think is the real issue. Ticketmaster sold tickets for our game on a block by block basis, allegedly the rationale being that it would be easier to return blocks of unsold tickets to sell to the other team - allegedly on the instructions of Wembley and/or the Football League. So - assuming the same policy exists for the Doncaster-Leeds game, why are the Football League refusing the blocks of unsold tickets to be sold to Leeds? Its madness - thousands of empty seats, but thousands of ticketless fans unable to get in. Is it me or are the people running football totally stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Red Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Is it me or are the people running football totally stupid? No, you're not the only one who thinks that way...the people running football really are totally stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Ticketmaster sold tickets for our game on a block by block basis, allegedly the rationale being that it would be easier to return blocks of unsold tickets to sell to the other team - allegedly on the instructions of Wembley and/or the Football League. So - assuming the same policy exists for the Doncaster-Leeds game, why are the Football League refusing the blocks of unsold tickets to be sold to Leeds? Its madness - thousands of empty seats, but thousands of ticketless fans unable to get in. Is it me or are the people running football totally stupid? I don't know about 'totally stupid' as when the facts are made clear there are usually sound reasons for the various decisions that are made. Maybe, and this just a guess the reason that blocks of unsold tickets not being sold to Leeds is because of the balance of supporters in the stadium. It would hardly be appropriate for any team to have far more support than the other. The play-off final is supposed to be as nuetral as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I don't know about 'totally stupid' as when the facts are made clear there are usually sound reasons for the various decisions that are made. Maybe, and this just a guess the reason that blocks of unsold tickets not being sold to Leeds is because of the balance of supporters in the stadium. It would hardly be appropriate for any team to have far more support than the other. The play-off final is supposed to be as nuetral as possible. If thats the best justification anyone can come up with, I think I'll stick with my "totally stupid" theory, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I don't know about 'totally stupid' as when the facts are made clear there are usually sound reasons for the various decisions that are made. Maybe, and this just a guess the reason that blocks of unsold tickets not being sold to Leeds is because of the balance of supporters in the stadium. It would hardly be appropriate for any team to have far more support than the other. The play-off final is supposed to be as nuetral as possible. Even though Doncaster have offered the tickets to Leeds? Even though we had many more fans at the Millenium Stadium than Carlisle and Brighton on our two visits? Not sure how that would be a possible reason! If it is, football really has gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taunton_City Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 So what do you think would happen if we say had Cheltenham in a play off final.......... Fair plays to Doncaster for offering to give leeds more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 It's wrong that 6,000 tickets can't be given to Leeds fans, no two ways about it. I wonder if perhaps they weren't sold block by block or if it's down to police concern over the fact that it's Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfield Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Another reason for selling block by block is the gates which control segregation in the concourse area. This is why it is difficult to just give more tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I don't know about 'totally stupid' as when the facts are made clear there are usually sound reasons for the various decisions that are made. Maybe, and this just a guess the reason that blocks of unsold tickets not being sold to Leeds is because of the balance of supporters in the stadium. It would hardly be appropriate for any team to have far more support than the other. The play-off final is supposed to be as nuetral as possible. I'd say you guessed wrong, unless you can explain how come the gas had near on 40,000 compared to Shrewsbury's 21,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I'd say you guessed wrong, unless you can explain how come the gas had near on 40,000 compared to Shrewsbury's 21,000 40,000 was the allocation to both finalists - the fact that the Shrews only sold 21k is hardly the fault of the organisers.The unsold 19k were not made available to the Gas. Donny had a similar number which they have been unable to sell.Leeds have sold all 40000 of thier allocation but to sell the remaining Donny allocation to Leeds is a non starter. 1) Wembley would be almost 2/3 Leeds which gives them an unfair advantage. 2) There are no doubt access and segregation issues that we as ordinary fans would not be familiar with. I would hesitate to call anyone or any situation 'stupid' without knowing the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezer Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 40,000 was the allocation to both finalists - the fact that the Shrews only sold 21k is hardly the fault of the organisers.The unsold 19k were not made available to the Gas. Donny had a similar number which they have been unable to sell.Leeds have sold all 40000 of thier allocation but to sell the remaining Donny allocation to Leeds is a non starter. 1) Wembley would be almost 2/3 Leeds which gives them an unfair advantage. 2) There are no doubt access and segregation issues that we as ordinary fans would not be familiar with. I would hesitate to call anyone or any situation 'stupid' without knowing the facts. Hey Alan, are you being driven to Wembley by a Bristol Rovers supporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 1) Wembley would be almost 2/3 Leeds which gives them an unfair advantage. Sorry but that is utter bilge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Who the hell cares. I hope Donny win anyway. Give another arrogant bunch of supporters a reality check for another season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 leeds are scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Exile Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 1) Wembley would be almost 2/3 Leeds which gives them an unfair advantage. Know what you are saying, and segregation may be an issue. However, I would guess Donny would like the tickets sold as they are on a share of the gate, and if something in those circumstances can be done, it should be, in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Sorry but that is utter bilge. Thats a very blunt comment - try explaining why you think its 'utter bilge'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Thats a very blunt comment - try explaining why you think its 'utter bilge'. I'd like to reply on his behalf. To suggest as you have that Wembley being full with 2/3 fans of one team gives that team an unfair advantage, is, well, utter bilge, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Thats a very blunt comment - try explaining why you think its 'utter bilge'. You're advocating playing the game in a half empty stadium, rather than allowing supporters of the clubs involved to be at the game. Why should people be stopped from watching their team play, just because the other team isn't as well supported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 You're advocating playing the game in a half empty stadium, rather than allowing supporters of the clubs involved to be at the game. Why should people be stopped from watching their team play, just because the other team isn't as well supported? Thanks. Thats what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 You're advocating playing the game in a half empty stadium, rather than allowing supporters of the clubs involved to be at the game. Why should people be stopped from watching their team play, just because the other team isn't as well supported? I'm not advocating anything at all.If you read this thread from the start you'll see that I was guessing as to why Leeds fans were not being allowed to buy up those not sold by Donny. I was simply speculating in response to NickJ calling the organisers 'fools' without him knowing the facts. I don't know the facts either but I was willing to hazard a guess as what the reasons might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'm not advocating anything at all.If you read this thread from the start you'll see that I was guessing as to why Leeds fans were not being allowed to buy up those not sold by Donny. I was simply speculating in response to NickJ calling the organisers 'fools' without him knowing the facts. I don't know the facts either but I was willing to hazard a guess as what the reasons might be. I have read the whole thread, thanks. You said it wouldn't be appropriate for one team to have far more support than another in post #4. I took that as meaning you advocate witholding spare tickets from fans who want to see the game. Enlighten me as to what you actually meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I have read the whole thread, thanks. You said it wouldn't be appropriate for one team to have far more support than another in post #4. I took that as meaning you advocate witholding spare tickets from fans who want to see the game. Enlighten me as to what you actually meant. What is it about the words maybe and guess that you don't understand? "Maybe, and this just a guess the reason that blocks of unsold tickets not being sold to Leeds is because of the balance of supporters in the stadium. It would hardly be appropriate for any team to have far more support than the other. The play-off final is supposed to be as nuetral as possible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I was about to go out for a beer, but I might just stay in and watch this debate unfold now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 What is it about the words maybe and guess that you don't understand? "Maybe, and this just a guess the reason that blocks of unsold tickets not being sold to Leeds is because of the balance of supporters in the stadium. It would hardly be appropriate for any team to have far more support than the other. The play-off final is supposed to be as nuetral as possible." Yes, you guessed at the reason and then went on to quite clearly give your opinion that it is inappropriate for one team to have more support than another in a separate sentence. That's what was called utter bilge and correctly so. As many football fans as possible should be in the stadium to enjoy big occasions like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yes, you guessed at the reason and then went on to quite clearly give your opinion that it is inappropriate for one team to have more support than another in a separate sentence. That's what was called utter bilge and correctly so. As many football fans as possible should be in the stadium to enjoy big occasions like this. Thats your opinion but if it were an ordinary home league game at Doncaster and Leeds were able to buy up all the home tickets that Donny didn't sell do you think that would be acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Thats your opinion but if it were an ordinary home league game at Doncaster and Leeds were able to buy up all the home tickets that Donny didn't sell do you think that would be acceptable? What one of those ordinary home league games with a neutral crowd? Remind me - what happens when we sell out away tickets and the opposition has spare seats - oh that's right they give us an extra allocation. Wembley crowds have never been limited for the purposes of neutrality ever and they should not be. It's a ludicrous suggestion. Why should any fans be denied the chance to watch their club when there are empty seats? Come off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Wembley crowds have never been limited for the purposes of neutrality ever and they should not be. Do you know that for a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Do you know that for a fact? Yes. If you want proof go and look up the crowds for previous playoff finals and you'll see plenty of examples of clubs selling > 50% of the capacity. The idea that seats should be empty is a complete nonsense and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtilldead Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Do you know that for a fact? Whos driving you up tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.