kingswood red Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 With the reduction in VAT, will the club reduce prices or pocket the difference?. As regards season tickets, any financial exerts know if we could be due a reduction on the unused portion as from Dec. 1st? If the club choose to pocket the VAT reduction its not a small amount. Say for example 16,000 gate x £25 ticket = £400,000 this gives a VAT reduction of £10,000 x 8 remaining games = £80,000. I know the gates and ticket prices are not exact but it represents a reasonable figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RiZiVi Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 With the reduction in VAT, will the club reduce prices or pocket the difference?. As regards season tickets, any financial exerts know if we could be due a reduction on the unused portion as from Dec. 1st? If the club choose to pocket the VAT reduction its not a small amount. Say for example 16,000 gate x £25 ticket = £400,000 this gives a VAT reduction of £10,000 x 8 remaining games = £80,000. I know the gates and ticket prices are not exact but it represents a reasonable figure. I'm sure they will pocket it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'm sure they will pocket it. And so they should. The club runs at a loss remember? Anyway, 2.5% off a £25 ticket is less than 60p and probably wouldn't cover the cost of changing the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingswood red Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 And so they should. The club runs at a loss remember? Anyway, 2.5% off a £25 ticket is less than 60p and probably wouldn't cover the cost of changing the system. I don't disagree with that, apart from your sums. But bear in mind that, if every other business pockets the reduction, instead of passing it on, this country will be in the **** big time, football, along with everything ese, will go into decline with wages and prices, at clubs the way they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 You can't have a retrospective claim on vat as at the time you purchased your ST it was at 17.5% and therefore that is the amount the club paid to Customs and Excise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Best for the club to pocket it I reckon. Doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'm still waiting for my £50.00 refund for the premium paid for the privilege of sitting in block C of the Dolman while the East End was being rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 And so they should. The club runs at a loss remember? Anyway, 2.5% off a £25 ticket is less than 60p and probably wouldn't cover the cost of changing the system. don't agree R, whether club is in profit or not is neither here nor there. (of course, you're free to make any personal donations to the business as you see fit - I'm sure they would'nt be refuse). I presume, morally or legally there's no way a football club, anymore than any other business, should be able to just 'pocket the difference' - and I'm sure they wouldnt dream of doing so. OK so on a matchday ticket of £25, to use your figures, a VAT reduction of about 60p is about right - I've no idea how the club (or any other club for that matter) intends to administer the changes or at what cost (again not our concern) However 60p is only 60p afterall - so I wonder if theres perhaps room at the point of purchase for the club to say .... 'Thankyou Sir/Madam that'll be £25 - there is of course a 60p VAT deduction/refund due to you, would you like your deduction in the form of a 60p cash refund or would you like to help BCFC to raise funds for & on behalf of the Supporters Trust by making your VAT refund a personal donation of 60p towards the John Atyeo Statue Fund?..." . I know thats the option (statue donation) I'd take, if offered the choice - whether such a scheme is viable/do-able/or desirable is of course another matter - what do you think?.. (it's a bit like the Preston away ticket refunds that the club administered not so long ago when many of our fans chose not to claim their dues choosing instead to have the collective unclaimed amount (over £1,300 I believe) donated to the (BUI) Bristol Prostate Research Fund) Re: Season tickets surely thats the same as anything anyone has bought throughout the year, a transaction thats bought and paid for, end of, just like insurance premiums, various licences etc and any number of other examples... so no of course there shouldnt be any retrospective refunds/adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RiZiVi Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 And so they should. The club runs at a loss remember? Anyway, 2.5% off a £25 ticket is less than 60p and probably wouldn't cover the cost of changing the system. I wasn't moaning about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Ticket prices need to be doubled. I sat next to someone who may of possibly been working class the other week. I thought we'd got rid of that sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RiZiVi Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Ticket prices need to be doubled. I sat next to someone who may of possibly been working class the other week. I thought we'd got rid of that sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basso for Brazil Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Ticket prices need to be doubled. I sat next to someone who may of possibly been working class the other week. I thought we'd got rid of that sort? Tell me about it, i had somone sat next to me who shouted obscene words in a west-country accent, the ticket prices need to be doubled so we can entice our asain and cockney fanbase. If we don't do this we will never be a big "global" club, lets sack the board and Gary Johnson for being interested in the local community! Also lee jonhson has to go because hes too nice and profesional, when he got abuse he didnt pick it up and throw it back into the crowd, so hes got no chance of being a top footballer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 ..how many potd's do we usually get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 don't agree R, whether club is in profit or not is neither here nor there. (of course, you're free to make any personal donations to the business as you see fit - I'm sure they would'nt be refuse). I presume, morally or legally there's no way a football club, anymore than any other business, should be able to just 'pocket the difference' - and I'm sure they wouldnt dream of doing so. OK so on a matchday ticket of £25, to use your figures, a VAT reduction of about 60p is about right - I've no idea how the club (or any other club for that matter) intends to administer the changes or at what cost (again not our concern) However 60p is only 60p afterall - so I wonder if theres perhaps room at the point of purchase for the club to say .... 'Thankyou Sir/Madam that'll be £25 - there is of course a 60p VAT deduction/refund due to you, would you like your deduction in the form of a 60p cash refund or would you like to help BCFC to raise funds for & on behalf of the Supporters Trust by making your VAT refund a personal donation of 60p towards the John Atyeo Statue Fund?..." I know thats the option (statue donation) I'd take, if offered the choice - whether such a scheme is viable/do-able/or desirable is of course another matter - what do you think?.. (it's a bit like the Preston away ticket refunds that the club administered not so long ago when many of our fans chose not to claim their dues choosing instead to have the collective unclaimed amount (over £1,300 I believe) donated to the (BUI) Bristol Prostate Research Fund) Re: Season tickets surely thats the same as anything anyone has bought throughout the year, a transaction thats bought and paid for, end of, just like insurance premiums, various licences etc and any number of other examples... so no of course there shouldnt be any retrospective refunds/adjustments. Presume no one thought the VAT for STAT-ue idea (highlighted above) was any good then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 The statue idea seemed like a good one, but if not for a statue the excess money could be used as a donation to a charity. Agree it would be hard to change the system, but when it comes to the accountants calculating how much tax we need to pay there will be a difference so it would be a good gesture for the club to give it to a charity or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocketscrots Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 I'm sure the club will use the extra cash to do more one game promotions as we seen last season. That way the 2.5% will be passed back to the fans with the hope of increasing and building on our fan base. don't see how taking 60p of the POTD prices is going to make any difference to us or the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGPHIL Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 With reference to the reduction in VAT, I think you might find that some clubs have reduced addmission prices by £1. Think it was on text during the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 With reference to the reduction in VAT, I think you might find that some clubs have reduced addmission prices by £1. Think it was on text during the week. I believe Everton and Bolton were two such teams who did this. Whilst tickets for these clubs may be more, it would still be a good gesture if the club either reduced prices for games at the Gate, waived the annoying booking fees, came up with another saving rate or used the money for something else (such as the statue fund or a local charity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmeanie Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 the club don't have the VAT from season tickets, they will have passed it on to Her Majesty! I think the club should keep the 2.5% in readiness for next years national insurance increases... I think football clubs have enough of a problem with wages as it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasherpudding Posted November 30, 2008 Report Share Posted November 30, 2008 Season tocket holders cannot get a refund because the transaction took place when the rate was 17.5%, but should be applied to next years tickets. 60p is not an easy number to change ticket prices, but as a goodwill gesture City remove the horrible booking fees and card charges. A ticket proce should be what it says, you don't get hit in the shops when you buy stuff. I am sure the club would still be in pocket, but it would be a good gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingswood red Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Milton Keynes have announced that they are reducing ticket prices, to take into account the reduction in VAT, but still no news from City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza247 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Milton Keynes have announced that they are reducing ticket prices, to take into account the reduction in VAT, but still no news from City! Portsmouth have also reduced their match day ticket prices by 1 pound a ticket and also reduced their half-season ticket prices. Saying that, Premier League football looks rather expensive even with the minimal reduction! http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/index.php?cm...article_id=1831 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jungle Jim Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 SL interview in the evening post today mentions that fans will become choosier during the recession in which games they attend. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few cut price games after Christmas, particularly if we look destined for mid-table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderhead456 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 wow £41 to see portsmouth potd?!? it that for every game or just for the likes of man u etc.. will that be the price of our FA cup game with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingswood red Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 wow £41 to see portsmouth potd?!? it that for every game or just for the likes of man u etc.. will that be the price of our FA cup game with them? Birmingham have announced that their FA cup game against Wolves will be free to all season ticket holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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