Admin Maesknoll Red Posted March 23, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Is it my imagination, or does this seem to be a more regular occurrence than in the past? So far this season it's cost us points in four games: City 1 Watford 1 Maynard 71. Smith 72 City 1 Burnley 2 Maynard 54(p). Paterson 57, Thompson 77 Derby 2 City 1 Porter 1, Hulse 86. Williams 83 QPR 2 City 1 Lopez 65, Taarabt 81. McIndoe 77 Whilst we'll never know the outcome if we hadn't have conceded in 5 minutes, it would point to costing us points in all those games. Whereas, in the four games that we have scored within five minutes of conceding: City 4 Doncaster 1 McIndoe 74. Wellens 69. McIndoe's goal making it 3-1 Palace 4 City 1 Fonte 72. Maynard 74 Maynard's goal making it 4-2 to Palace Watford 2 City 4 Rasiak 49. Elliott 52 Elliott's goal making it 3-1 City 2 Wolves 2 Adebola 58. Jarvis 54 Dele's goal making it 1-2 to Wolves. It would appear that the times we have scored in quick response to conceding haven't bee so crucial, with the exception of the Wolves game. As an aside to this, we haven't scored more than two goals, home or away since boxing day, we've only scored three once this season, (v Coventry) and four twice. (v Doncaster & v Watford). As soon as we concede, we are struggling and if conceding twice, that's resulted in eight losses, three draws and one win. The club has made massive strides forward since GJ took over and I'm sure there is more to come, but the lack of clinical finishing, the inability to close games out and really put teams to the sword when we have possession dominance is the reason why we are likely to end up in mid table this season. Were it not for the excellent clean sheet record of the defence and Basso, we'd be looking at avoiding the drop. GJ must be acutely aware of this issue and I'm sure is working hard to resolve it, it can't be that all strikers dry up when they join City, is there a lack of cohesive awareness between the midfield and the strikers, don't the midfielders get forward in support often enough? Many questions, I guess a lot of opinions as to the answers, here's hoping GJ finds the solution soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderSomerset Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 It worries me just after we score and the opposition get the ball, as I am always worried they will score straight away. I don't know why, but too often we seem to switch off for ten minutes after scoring and are very vunerable. GJ must be aware of this, and the players need to sort it out somehow.. As you have said, it has cost us a few points this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 For better or for worse Goals alter players mentality and force them to change their playing approach, even if they don't mean to change, subconsciously they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Stand Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 The club has made massive strides forward since GJ took over and I'm sure there is more to come, but the lack of clinical finishing, the inability to close games out and really put teams to the sword when we have possession dominance is the reason why we are likely to end up in mid table this season. Were it not for the excellent clean sheet record of the defence and Basso, we'd be looking at avoiding the drop. GJ must be acutely aware of this issue and I'm sure is working hard to resolve it, it can't be that all strikers dry up when they join City, is there a lack of cohesive awareness between the midfield and the strikers, don't the midfielders get forward in support often enough? Many questions, I guess a lot of opinions as to the answers, here's hoping GJ finds the solution soon. The conceding so soon after scoring thing is really annoying. However I do think the broader issue is that defensively we are very good & the way we are set up we are pretty hard to break down. The downside to this is that we aren't as dangerous as a lot of our rivals & I think teams feel if they can get a goal, the chances are that they will win. I suspect that Johnson is concerned if we become more aggressive we will lose something in terms of security at the back. For me this is the next big leap we need to take. We've proved ourselves as a more than decent team at this level & next season, particularly at home I'd like to see us put teams to the sword a lot more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Four of the last 6 goals that City have conceded have come after the 82th min. Brum,87, Derby 86, Cardiff, 87 and QPR 83. Is that signifcant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Four of the last 6 goals that City have conceded have come after the 82th min. Brum,87, Derby 86, Cardiff, 87 and QPR 83. Is that signifcant? It could be if you consider that prior to Brum I don't think we had conceeded a late goal all season (late being last ten mins) Also they have all come when we have started with 5 in midfield and reverted to 4 via subs etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted March 24, 2009 Author Admin Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Four of the last 6 goals that City have conceded have come after the 82th min. Brum,87, Derby 86, Cardiff, 87 and QPR 83. Is that signifcant? It must be, but why; tiredness, inappropriate substitutions, tactical frailties or just a plain and simple lack of concentration. Could be one for the Psychologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 City pride themselves on their hard training and giving everything in every game. It's near the end of another long hard season ( with very little rest inbetween because of the play-offs) so perhaps with all these late goals it's not too far fetched to think that at this stage the players are simply knackered after 80 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 25, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Four of the last 6 goals that City have conceded have come after the 82th min. Brum,87, Derby 86, Cardiff, 87 and QPR 83. Is that signifcant? strangest thing is we used to be the team scoring the late goals and winning gamse, this used to be put down to the players better fitness levels, so what do we read into that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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