Pete1975Legend Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 With SL again regards contract according to GJ on player, lets hope it can be resolved, have to say considering it was his first game back last night, he played extremely well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CtyBird Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 With SL again regards contract according to GJ on player, lets hope it can be resolved, have to say considering it was his first game back last night, he played extremely well. The grass isn't always greener springs to mind - maybe someone should have said that to him when he was playing silly buggers and turning down a very lucrative contract. He'll make a more than decent bench goalie, but I think Deano is the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Dont see what there is to talk about, either sign the contract or dont, there is no way he will be able to negotiate any more money into the deal, if anything it should now be less....teach him to sign it in the first place and not go around with delusions of grandeur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Dont see what there is to talk about, either sign the contract or dont, there is no way he will be able to negotiate any more money into the deal, if anything it should now be less....teach him to sign it in the first place and not go around with delusions of grandeur. That would be my stance too. It maybe harsh but I hope he is being offered a lesser contract. Whether he was right or wrong his actions must have disrupted our pre-season and caused a lot of upset. OK our signing of Gerkin has worked out but at the time there was a lot of uncertainty. How things have changed. At first it seemed Basso was holding the club to ransom but now surely the club is in the stronger position, Basso is not as sought after as he might have thought. I hope they use this to their advantage. Basso though did seem to play a part in last nights result so at least he has remained fit and professionally focused, so he has to be recognised for that at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Basso though did seem to play a part in last nights result so at least he has remained fit and professionally focused, so he has to be recognised for that at least. Agreed. More than happy for him to be at the club and doing as good a job for us as he always did. Just wish he had signed straight away and saved any of this hassle....cost him the No.1 jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 That would be my stance too. It maybe harsh but I hope he is being offered a lesser contract. Whether he was right or wrong his actions must have disrupted our pre-season and caused a lot of upset. OK our signing of Gerkin has worked out but at the time there was a lot of uncertainty. How things have changed. At first it seemed Basso was holding the club to ransom but now surely the club is in the stronger position, Basso is not as sought after as he might have thought. I hope they use this to their advantage. Basso though did seem to play a part in last nights result so at least he has remained fit and professionally focused, so he has to be recognised for that at least. Spot on, the club could offer 10-20% ££ less than they did orignally! It's nice to hear he's remained professional and trained well, maybe oohhhh Basssoooo will be heard again soon!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DanC Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Spot on, the club could offer 10-20% ££ less than they did orignally! It's nice to hear he's remained professional and trained well, maybe oohhhh Basssoooo will be heard again soon!?Not from me it wont be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pederho ll Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I won't post the exact details of my conversation with Basso, as I think that would go against the spirit of our discussion. However, after I somehow completed the Half Marathon the other week, I took the family for a bite to eat on Park Street and who happened to be in the restaurant was our very own Adriano Basso (with his wife/girlfriend). Now please get into my mind set, I was still alive after running 13.1 miles which was a massive bonus, so approaching our flamboyant reserve shot-stopper was no issue. Anyway, to cut a long story short I had a chat with him for 10-15mins and he was nothing other than delightful to speak with. It is clear he holds BCFC in the highest of regards and from what he told me it seemed very clear that he never wanted to leave, but thought that he had been put into an impossible position and that the only way out was quite literally to consider other options. Having sat there and looked him straight in the eyes I have to take his words at face value. I suppose there are always two sides to every story, but he did seem very genuine. I have always liked watching Basso play for us, I think he gives his all for the cause and is actually a pretty good, if not very good keeper. To boot, he has given us some real fun from the terraces with the whole "ohh Bassooooooo" and "Always Believe" banter. He has always had a good rapore with the fans and I went to great lengths to tell him so......it was quite a moment as it was the first time in the conversation that he and his wife/girlfriend had stopped to take breath, and they seemed a little taken a back by what I was saying. Although I thought important to tell him that handing in a written transfer request was an act that many BCFC had not liked and if he did eventually stay, it might take a little time to heal some of the wounds and opinions held by some as a result of his actions. Why did I go out of my way to speak to him, well mainly because I think from a purely playing perspective he is a very good asset to have, either as first choice keeper or back-up (you can choose on that one)........also, because I think he is a decent bloke all in all and I gauge the later on his selfless actions after our play-off final defeat, where he took it upon himself to go around each BCFC team member giving words of comfort, at a time when he had every right to feel as sorry for his self as the rest of team. I hope he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 i'd imagine that as basso was offered a big weekly wage and turned it down that that proportion of the playing budget was subsequently spent elsewhere. in fact im pretty sure it would of been after the velicka inuury and deals for sno and alvaro. im sure basso wont get the same offer he did before the window shut and rightly so. its hard to see how basso was put in the awkward position he seems to be claiming he was. unless he is saying that GJ is lying and that the deal offered to him wasnt as big GJ as is leading us to beleive. somehow i cant see that. ive heard that it was comfortably over the 5 figure per week mark. thats some difficult position to be put in!!! having said that he is a great keeper and if he signs and knuckles down to fight for the no1 jersey with deano and hendo i will be pleased to still have him at the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 It is clear he holds BCFC in the highest of regards and from what he told me it seemed very clear that he never wanted to leave, but thought that he had been put into an impossible position and that the only way out was quite literally to consider other options. Would love to know what the "impossible situation" that stopped him signing the best contract any player has been offered* in the history of our club actually was? *allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 ...maybe he dropped the pen & it broke. Whatever happened or happens I hope the situation is resolved amicably & the good ship Bristol City can set sail again with a happy captain & crew all pulling together, ship shape & Bristol fashion once again... Last night was a good start imo! Just like a family bust up -deal with it, move on & bear no grudges. (ffs we dont wanna end up on the Jeremy Kyle show) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Whatever happened or happens I hope the situation is resolved amicably & the good ship Bristol City can set sail again with a happy captain & crew all pulling together, ship shape & Bristol fashion once again... Last night was a good start imo! Just like a family bust up -deal with it, move on & bear no grudges. (ffs we dont wanna end up on the Jeremy Kyle show) Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegC Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I guess that the contract offered reflected the fact that he was more likely-than-not going to be our Number 1 keeper. As he no longer enjoys that position, any contract offer will reflect the fact he is currently Number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdc Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I think the bottom line is that having Basso at AG is a positive and he will offer great competition for Gerkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 i'd imagine that as basso was offered a big weekly wage and turned it down that that proportion of the playing budget was subsequently spent elsewhere. in fact im pretty sure it would of been after the velicka inuury and deals for sno and alvaro. im sure basso wont get the same offer he did before the window shut and rightly so. its hard to see how basso was put in the awkward position he seems to be claiming he was. unless he is saying that GJ is lying and that the deal offered to him wasnt as big GJ as is leading us to beleive. somehow i cant see that. ive heard that it was comfortably over the 5 figure per week mark. thats some difficult position to be put in!!! You have no idea at all. Basso has been portrayed as the villian is this sorry saga whereas he's much more an innocent party than fans have been led to believe. I went into details on this forum a while ago only to have the post removed so theres no point going into it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 You have no idea at all. Basso has been portrayed as the villian is this sorry saga whereas he's much more an innocent party than fans have been led to believe. I went into details on this forum a while ago only to have the post removed so theres no point going into it again. I think its fair to say, he knows as much as you.... unless you work at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 You have no idea at all. Basso has been portrayed as the villian is this sorry saga whereas he's much more an innocent party than fans have been led to believe. I went into details on this forum a while ago only to have the post removed so theres no point going into it again. Without stiring up any trouble on here Robbo, are you able to at least confirm or deny that Basso rejected an offer that would of made him one of if not the top earner at the club? Depends on the truth, but if he rejected a respectable offer for his services and it was truely the best deal we could put to him then i dont see how the fans could see it any other way than he is the villian in it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 You have no idea at all. Basso has been portrayed as the villian is this sorry saga whereas he's much more an innocent party than fans have been led to believe. I went into details on this forum a while ago only to have the post removed so theres no point going into it again. Because it was complete and utter bulls**t maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Still at the same position... http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,1...1798642,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Because it was complete and utter bulls**t maybe? Wouldn't be much to read if you removed all posts on that criteria!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pederho ll Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I think its fair to say, he knows as much as you.... unless you work at the club? I don't think you need to work at the club to have knowledge of 'insider' information. I think plenty of people who use this forum have players as mates or family working at the club. Why would the club have to go 'softly' in negotiations with him?...Why would it have 'set him back a month or two' when it was stated in the press that he had 'climbed down'?........its clear that Basso obviously feels strongly about something the club has done (and the something is something nobody is willing to put in writing on here or in the press), strong enough to feel he was left with no other option but to turn down a allegedly lucrative new contract....?????!!!! If it was simply a case of thanks for the new contract offer but no thanks, I'm bigger and better than this club, (hence the villian) there is no way the club would still be talking to him about signing a new contract and they certainly wouldn't be adopting such a careful thoughout 'softly-softly' approach so as not to 'set him back' again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Still at the same position... http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,1...1798642,00.html Im confused honestly i am.....i thought we offered him a deal, he refused, wanted either more cash or to play at a higher level so he put in a transfer request....nobody came in for him, a better deal was not put forward, the transfer window closes and he is still here. Really dont understand what discussions are needed, either he signs it or he doesnt, so then continues to deputise for Gerken....why will he not sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 You have no idea at all. Basso has been portrayed as the villian is this sorry saga whereas he's much more an innocent party than fans have been led to believe. I went into details on this forum a while ago only to have the post removed so theres no point going into it again. strangely enough im going on the basis of the information that i have been able to gather for myself and havent got the sources that you obviously have. obviously i didnt see your deleted post. if you know the 100% truth then good for you. can i just ask one thing, are you saying that GJ was lying when he said AB turned down a very lucriative contract offer????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 strangely enough im going on the basis of the information that i have been able to gather for myself and havent got the sources that you obviously have. obviously i didnt see your deleted post. if you know the 100% truth then good for you. can i just ask one thing, are you saying that GJ was lying when he said AB turned down a very lucriative contract offer????? If it was 100% the truth Basso would have been dismissed for Gross Misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 If it was 100% the truth Basso would have been dismissed for Gross Misconduct. And wouldn't have started every single game for the remainder of the season after the made up incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pederho ll Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I think the question is...Why did he turn down the contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Why would the club have to go 'softly' in negotiations with him?...Why would it have 'set him back a month or two' when it was stated in the press that he had 'climbed down'?........its clear that Basso obviously feels strongly about something the club has done (and the something is something nobody is willing to put in writing on here or in the press), strong enough to feel he was left with no other option but to turn down a allegedly lucrative new contract....?????!!!! If it was simply a case of thanks for the new contract offer but no thanks, I'm bigger and better than this club, (hence the villian) there is no way the club would still be talking to him about signing a new contract and they certainly wouldn't be adopting such a careful thoughout 'softly-softly' approach so as not to 'set him back' again. From what i have heard today, you have just hit the nail on the head. Could be a load of BS but as time goes on it looks more and more likely that there is a very specific reason why AB turned that contract down and its not because of cash/ambition. Can only spin the truth for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pederho ll Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 From what i have heard today, you have just hit the nail on the head. Could be a load of BS but as time goes on it looks more and more likely that there is a very specific reason why AB turned that contract down and its not because of cash/ambition. Can only spin the truth for so long. Gazred, all I will say is that I spoke with the guy face to face and he told me catagorically why he did not sign a new contract. In my opinion (and obviously Basso's) his position was most definately compromised. Importantly, not once during my conversation with him did I get the impression he was spinning me a yarn and I am the most sceptical person alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Gazred, all I will say is that I spoke with the guy face to face and he told me catagorically why he did not sign a new contract. In my opinion (and obviously Basso's) his position was most definately compromised. Importantly, not once during my conversation with him did I get the impression he was spinning me a yarn and I am the most sceptical person alive. I doubt that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 If it was 100% the truth Basso would have been dismissed for Gross Misconduct. I saw the famous post before it was deleted and can back you up. It would have simply led to his contract being torn up but once again the big R has to come out with some bull and then used that bull that back up arguments in other posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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