Steve Watts Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 The whole illness thing appears to have been severely mismanaged. GJ says they're all using separate water bottles in training etc, but surely if anyone wakes up with any symptoms they should be staying at home and calling in, getting the club doctor out to assess them rather than bringing the virus in again and dealing with it there. Separate water bottles won't stop them all going into the same changing rooms etc... GJ said about Gerken that he looked like a hamster.....he shouldn't have been anywhere near the club for GJ to have seen him to know what he looks like! Another dig at our Manager for no reason, why dont you people get a life. I dont mind constructive criticism but slagging of our manager and players for the sake of it is just nauseating. If you would have bothered to watched the medical report on "I player" you would have heard we quarantine all the players that report in sick, they dont even get to see the fit players. Well clearly gerken wasn't quarantined if gj saw him. Infected players should be nowhere near the club. That's as much, or more, the players' fault as it is the management. and to clarify, in this situation, the word management refers to whoever should be dealing with this, be it gj or the club doctor - most likely the latter. And i don't feel it is a pointless dig. I'm very much behind gj and what he's done for the club since he came in, but he isnt infallible and therefore is as open to criticism as anyone. Do YOU agree with the policy of filling a matchday squad with people struggling to be fit instead of recalling someone who is? The majority of our bench on tuesday weren't fit and the situation has apparently worsened, yet still no sign of loanees being called back in, which in my opinion makes no sense at all. Just because i disagree with the way a situation is managed, doesn't mean i've turned on the manager. Can you honestly say you agree with EVERY single decision gj has ever made? If so, then i don't really mind your criticism of my opinion, because you're clearly incapable of holding a balanced viewpoint on the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Well clearly gerken wasn't quarantined if gj saw him. Infected players should be nowhere near the club. That's as much, or more, the players' fault as it is the management. and to clarify, in this situation, the word management refers to whoever should be dealing with this, be it gj or the club doctor - most likely the latter. And i don't feel it is a pointless dig. I'm very much behind gj and what he's done for the club since he came in, but he isnt infallible and therefore is as open to criticism as anyone. Do YOU agree with the policy of filling a matchday squad with people struggling to be fit instead of recalling someone who is? The majority of our bench on tuesday weren't fit and the situation has apparently worsened, yet still no sign of loanees being called back in, which in my opinion makes no sense at all. Just because i disagree with the way a situation is managed, doesn't mean i've turned on the manager. Can you honestly say you agree with EVERY single decision gj has ever made? If so, then i don't really mind your criticism of my opinion, because you're clearly incapable of holding a balanced viewpoint on the club. Do we even know what the "illness" actually is? Lets be fair, we dont know what the whole story is. Like most illnesses, these players could have the bug in their systems a good 48 hours before they show ANY symptoms, if they dont know they have it, they will carry on with their daily duty. The only way they could have controlled it completely would have been to shut the club down for a week or so, and lets be fair....that cant happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjc bcfc Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I think the whole thing is just a cover up story so that Lee Johnson can play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Do we even know what the "illness" actually is? I thought it was mumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I thought it was mumps. I thought that was ruled out, in Nyatanga's case anyway. Judging from Nicky Maynard's symptoms there's more than one bug anyway, and no one seems to know what virus is affecting those who've had the same nasty one - i.e. Johnson, Orr, Nyatanga, Clarkson, Haynes and Gerken. Those are the ones we know of anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Many a true word said in jest and all that... I don't think there's a recall option on either, but there is on the likes of Wilson, Plummer, Jackson & Artus. I can't understand why, if we're suffering from this bug, we haven't activated it. How long have the loanees been out on loan? I'm probably wrong but are they non recallable in the first month of a loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 How long have the loanees been out on loan? I'm probably wrong but are they non recallable in the first month of a loan? I'm surprised any other clubs have wanted our players on loan since this bug reared it's ugly head, and I reckon clubs would think twice about letting their players come to AG at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 How long have the loanees been out on loan? I'm probably wrong but are they non recallable in the first month of a loan? Not sure....I thought Tristan and Marlon had gone out before JW, who I know has had his loan extended, thus opening the option of the recall. They must've all been there for at least a month now, I should've thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theothergary Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 any thought GJ may be spoofing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 any thought GJ may be spoofing I reckon he's got two coins in his hand, I've got one, so my call is ....err.......three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMBCFC Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 the illness is Mumps Its been said numerous times from the club that it is not mumps.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Its been said numerous times from the club that it is not mumps.. Surely it must be another case of "weveallhadanotherfalloutwithgjitus"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theothergary Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 The worry would be that arguably we lost 2 points on tuesday we may also lose further points tomorow then possibly further points until the virus is cleared up.Why cant the virus be identified and cleared. Or why cant we call games off untill the virus cleared. we seem to be playing games with a major di- advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted September 18, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 Well clearly gerken wasn't quarantined if gj saw him. Infected players should be nowhere near the club. That's as much, or more, the players' fault as it is the management. and to clarify, in this situation, the word management refers to whoever should be dealing with this, be it gj or the club doctor - most likely the latter. And i don't feel it is a pointless dig. I'm very much behind gj and what he's done for the club since he came in, but he isnt infallible and therefore is as open to criticism as anyone. Do YOU agree with the policy of filling a matchday squad with people struggling to be fit instead of recalling someone who is? The majority of our bench on tuesday weren't fit and the situation has apparently worsened, yet still no sign of loanees being called back in, which in my opinion makes no sense at all. Just because i disagree with the way a situation is managed, doesn't mean i've turned on the manager. Can you honestly say you agree with EVERY single decision gj has ever made? If so, then i don't really mind your criticism of my opinion, because you're clearly incapable of holding a balanced viewpoint on the club. How long have the loanees been out on loan? I'm probably wrong but are they non recallable in the first month of a loan? Not sure....I thought Tristan and Marlon had gone out before JW, who I know has had his loan extended, thus opening the option of the recall. They must've all been there for at least a month now, I should've thought. James Wilson can be recalled after the 20th. Tristan Plummer can be recalled after the 20th. Marlon Jackson can be recalled after the 20th. Frankie Artus can be recalled after the 28th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I would recall at least Artus and Plummer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted September 18, 2009 Admin Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I would recall at least Artus and Plummer You can't (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 You can't (yet). Yes, in the next weeks,if the situation remains the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I think the most worrying thing is that GJ doesn't want to disclose who is ill i.e must be a few important players? as if non 1st team players were out it wouldn't matter saying they were ill. Or maybe it's all a big cover up and we'll play our best possible first 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I'm thinking about tomorrow's formation....if the situation of the injured/ill players is the same, I would choose: Basso; Orr,McCombe,Nyatanga,McAllister; Sproule,Skuse,Hartley,G.Williams; Maynard,Saborio bench: Fontaine,Ribeiro?, Wilson,L.Johnson,Elliott?, Clarkson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 I'm thinking about tomorrow's formation....if the situation of the injured/ill players is the same, I would choose: Basso; Orr,McCombe,Nyatanga,McAllister; Sproule,Skuse,Hartley,G.Williams; Maynard,Saborio bench: Fontaine,Ribeiro?, Wilson,L.Johnson,Elliott?, Clarkson No room for Sno in that lot? Has he gone down with the dreaded lergy then? Surely Henderson on the bench too, you never know with Basso and his knocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 James Wilson can be recalled after the 20th. Tristan Plummer can be recalled after the 20th. Marlon Jackson can be recalled after the 20th. Frankie Artus can be recalled after the 28th. Fair enough.... thought they'd been there longer than that - fuelled by my obvious lack of confidence in Hereford's ability to progress in cup comps. I remembered TP scoring for Hereford in the cup and thought that was the first round. My bad.... in that case....we're screwed! Team spirit will have to win out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindjuicer Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Sno is playing. Team attitude is good, much better than last year. Heard LJ had swine flu, Maynard had stomach bug, and GJ said someone looked like a football didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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