Mr Mosquito Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I watched the Everton v Spurs highlights last night and I was amazed at how David Moyes managed an injury hit Everton to come back from 0-2 down to get the draw against an on fire Spurs side. On paper, Spurs are far more classy than Everton and yet David Moyes got his team to hold them to a draw. So why can't our very own Gary Johnson get that kind of barn storming result against the better sides in this division ???!!!! :noexpression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I watched the game as well and to be fair Spurs thought that at 2-0 up the game was won. That let Everton back in and don't forget that Spurs missed a last min penalty which would have almost certainly won the game. Moyes has done well in difficult circumstances but Everton are a yoyo team. One decent season followed by a poor one followed by a good one and so on. He's the one factor that keeps them in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I watched the game as well and to be fair Spurs thought that at 2-0 up the game was won. That let Everton back in and don't forget that Spurs missed a last min penalty which would have almost certainly won the game. Moyes has done well in difficult circumstances but Everton are a yoyo team. One decent season followed by a poor one followed by a good one and so on. He's the one factor that keeps them in the PL. I remember David Moyes when he was here - was it Joe Jordan that was manager then? If I was Steve Lansdown I'd definately have my eye on David Moyes of Everton as a replacement for Gary Johnson. If Everton get bored with him - bring him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Should have been our manager when Cluless was appointed, was getting on a plane to come back from America to be interviewed when he heard Clueless was about to be appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 If I was Steve Lansdown I'd definately have my eye on David Moyes of Everton as a replacement for Gary Johnson. If Everton get bored with him - bring him here. I hope SL is (a) more patient than most of this forum (b) more realistic about who we could attract - Moyes is often talked about now as Fergie's possible succesor! If GJ were to leave (which I hope will not happen for a very long time), I'd love Moyes as a replacement. But it ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Should have been our manager when Cluless was appointed, was getting on a plane to come back from America to be interviewed when he heard Clueless was about to be appointed. Gary Johnson's done well turning this club around and getting us to where we are now but the likes of David Moyes is the type to bring in if we are to continue momentum and "press on" to the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DanC Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Should have been our manager when Cluless was appointed, was getting on a plane to come back from America to be interviewed when he heard Clueless was about to be appointed.Biggest mistake ever that was. We would or would have been a prem team by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I remember we were 2 down against Plymouth and came back to draw, but then that was because Trundle came on and had nothing to do with the manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Biggest mistake ever that was. We would or would have been a prem team by now. All may not be lost because David Moyes has a lot more managerial experience now than when we failed to sign him up. Who knows, David Moyes may yet become our manager. The big failing with clueless - apart from signing crocked and injury prone players - is that he really didn't seem to like us as City supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I remember we were 2 down against Plymouth and came back to draw, but then that was because Trundle came on and had nothing to do with the manager! A lot of similarities with our game v Sheffield Utd. We came back from two down with a late equaliser and lost to an injury time goal. Everton also came back from two down and but for a poor penalty by Defoe would also have lost to an injury time goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Biggest mistake ever that was. We would or would have been a prem team by now. You know this because... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DanC Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 You know this because... ?Just my opinion but I honestly think we would have been. We certainly wouldn't have spent years trying to get out of league one that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Just my opinion but I honestly think we would have been. We certainly wouldn't have spent years trying to get out of league one that's for sure. Too right, I also think David Moyes would have got us promotion from Div 1 at least 4 seasons before we actually did manage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I just logged on here and the first thing I saw was Moysie's name....just for a few seconds I believed! Back to reality, we've missed the boat with him. Surely he's onto bigger things if not ManU, how the hell am I going to bring myself to support that lot if he goes there , then the Scotland job maybe. Gutted we got Pulis, surely the most hated manager in our history, when Moyes was here waiting to get the nod. Yes I know all about experience, blah, blah, blah and hindsight too but I think not employing Moyes was one of the biggest mistakes in our history. (Ok I'm a bit biased maybe ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I just logged on here and the first thing I saw was Moysie's name....just for a few seconds I believed! Back to reality, we've missed the boat with him. Surely he's onto bigger things if not ManU, how the hell am I going to bring myself to support that lot if he goes there , then the Scotland job maybe. Gutted we got Pulis, surely the most hated manager in our history, when Moyes was here waiting to get the nod. Yes I know all about experience, blah, blah, blah and hindsight too but I think not employing Moyes was one of the biggest mistakes in our history. (Ok I'm a bit biased maybe ). I reckon ManU will promote from within. David Moyes could do a good job here and he's got masses more managerial experience than he had when we first should have signed him as manager. If Steve Lansdown wants to really push the boat out with a superb managerial appointment then it has to be David Moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinker Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I reckon ManU will promote from within. David Moyes could do a good job here and he's got masses more managerial experience than he had when we first should have signed him as manager. If Steve Lansdown wants to really push the boat out with a superb managerial appointment then it has to be David Moyes. I bet there will be higher profile clubs than us after Moyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Biggest mistake ever that was. We would or would have been a prem team by now. Why? Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Oh, and has David Moyes got a track record of getting small provincial clubs to the premier league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 get Steve McClaren in! would love him here, think he is a great manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 To use the word over ambitious is an under statement if we are talking about getting in David Moyes, we simply would have no chance. As Red M said we missed the boat a long time ago with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 To use the word over ambitious is an under statement if we are talking about getting in David Moyes, we simply would have no chance. As Red M said we missed the boat a long time ago with him. If someone had said last season that we'd get paul Hartley from Glasgow Celtic I'd have thought they were over ambitious. After watching us play Ajax of Amsterdam I never thought we'd get Evander Sno either. Seems like we've got a very ambitious Chairman with a stuck in the mud manager who will always favour....ahem....a relation over our better midfield players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 If someone had said last season that we'd get paul Hartley from Glasgow Celtic I'd have thought they were over ambitious. After watching us play Ajax of Amsterdam I never thought we'd get Evander Sno either. Seems like we've got a very ambitious Chairman with a stuck in the mud manager who will always favour....ahem....a relation over our better midfield players. So you think the Chairman made these signings over the manager's head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 So you think the Chairman made these signings over the manager's head? Do you think Gary Johnson put up the money to bring these players in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I reckon ManU will promote from within. David Moyes could do a good job here and he's got masses more managerial experience than he had when we first should have signed him as manager. If Steve Lansdown wants to really push the boat out with a superb managerial appointment then it has to be David Moyes. Two words: Jose Mourhino. get Steve McClaren in! would love him here, think he is a great manager Agreed. McClaren got a rough ride as England manager, but he took the job at the wrong time. If he'd bided his time, waited another 10 to 15 years before taking it, managed abroad for a while as he is now, and taken on a few big clubs, then he would have made a much better job of it. Sadly he was dazzled by the bright lights. Look at him now, top of the league in Holland with an unfashionable team, not one of the big three and he's managed in the Champions League - not many English managers can say that! Plus, he was the mastermind behind Manc Scum winning the treble and he took Middlesbrough(!) into Europe. That's a pretty impressive CV. One failure as England manager does not a bad manager make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Do you think Gary Johnson put up the money to bring these players in? Obviously not but you haven't answered the question. Do you think these players were signed against the manager's wishes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Two words: Jose Mourhino. Agreed. McClaren got a rough ride as England manager, but he took the job at the wrong time. If he'd bided his time, waited another 10 to 15 years before taking it, managed abroad for a while as he is now, and taken on a few big clubs, then he would have made a much better job of it. Sadly he was dazzled by the bright lights. Look at him now, top of the league in Holland with an unfashionable team, not one of the big three and he's managed in the Champions League - not many English managers can say that! Plus, he was the mastermind behind Manc Scum winning the treble and he took Middlesbrough(!) into Europe. That's a pretty impressive CV. One failure as England manager does not a bad manager make. You're probably right as Jose Mourhino is a big name manager that would be a big target for the big name club that is Man United. As for McClaren, he walked away from the England job with jackpot £millions so the England job was successful for him !!!!!! I still reckon Moyes would come and manage here if things turned sour for him at Goodison Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 You're probably right as Jose Mourhino is a big name manager that would be a big target for the big name club that is Man United. As for McClaren, he walked away from the England job with jackpot £millions so the England job was successful for him !!!!!! I still reckon Moyes would come and manage here if things turned sour for him at Goodison Park. You're right - financially it was very successful! But fair play to him, he's shown he's interested in more than just the money by going abroad to rebuild his career. He reminds me of Roy Hodgson, another man with a City connection, who's also very educated and cosmopolitan, and who's also the man that should probably take over the England job if Fabio decides he's had enough after the World Cup (which is possible...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Biggest mistake ever that was. We would or would have been a prem team by now. Possibly, but he didn't take Preston there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Gutted we got Pulis, surely the most hated manager in our history, when Moyes was here waiting to get the nod. Yes I know all about experience, blah, blah, blah and hindsight too but I think not employing Moyes was one of the biggest mistakes in our history. (Ok I'm a bit biased maybe ). But Pulis has actually got a team promoted from the Championship to the Premier League, which Moyes never has. Moyes had taken Preston about as far as Johnson has taken City before he got his chance with Everton. There's no evidence to suggest that he could actually have got Preston that step further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_Lemon Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Are some of you being serious in saying if Johnson did leave we should go in for Moyes? I'm sure he would leave Everton, who are one of the best sides in the premier league and who also play UEFA Cup football for a club who are mid-table in the championship. In advance I do apologise if some of you are just joking but if your being serious, blimey go get your head screwed on straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Are some of you being serious in saying if Johnson did leave we should go in for Moyes? I'm sure he would leave Everton, who are one of the best sides in the premier league and who also play UEFA Cup football for a club who are mid-table in the championship. In advance I do apologise if some of you are just joking but if your being serious, blimey go get your head screwed on straight I agree with you. Absolute nonsense. I'd go for Martin O'Neill myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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