Red Cloud Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 fair play him for holding his hands up in a "got no choice" gesture to th Dolman after booking Haynes for taking his shirt off - can't remember seeing that before that's all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 It is a ludicrous rule and no doubt refs hate having to do it. I assume it is a question of inciting the crowd but how is that so if you do it in front of your own fans? Yet if a player keeps his shirt on but taunts the opposition fans he is not booked. Just a small example of the pathetic way in which the game is administered, as the new ex FA Chief Executive might agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 It is a ludicrous rule and no doubt refs hate having to do it. I assume it is a question of inciting the crowd but how is that so if you do it in front of your own fans? Yet if a player keeps his shirt on but taunts the opposition fans he is not booked. Just a small example of the pathetic way in which the game is administered, as the new ex FA Chief Executive might agree. I think you'll find it's more devious than that! There's a thing called a sponsers logo on the shirt and you can't see it on the box when it's being waived above the scorers head. The powers that be will probably deny this but I'm sure that's the hidden agenda here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Unless there's been some serious lobbying I doubt the FA care about individual shirt sponsors. Perhaps fees raised from this needless rule could be donated to a charity of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I may be wrong on this but i didn't think the actual wording of the rule says it's an automatic booking. As someone has posted above, it's only a booking if deemed to be inciteful or unsporting behaviour, i.e rubbing it into the oppostion. It falls to the referee's discretion, which they all seem to think, 'right, that's definately a booking'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Right, dont quote me on this, but im sure the main reason this is a bookable offence is because football is now recognised as a global sport, and in some religeons it can cause offence Like I said, im not 100% sure, but am sure I read this somewhere a while back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I thought this was because of various footballers wearing t-shirts with political messages or personal sponsors on underneath their shirts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Its a booking because its time wasting, he has to put the shirt back on in order to play. Yeah I think its a bit crap, but i can see why refs have to card players for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/adrian-chiles-memo-to-the-fa-what-so-terrible-about-taking-your-shirt-off-675757.html Interesting article on the subject. Apprently FIFA think players should not show 'to much joy'.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CiderHider Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Right, dont quote me on this, but im sure the main reason this is a bookable offence is because football is now recognised as a global sport, and in some religeons it can cause offence Like I said, im not 100% sure, but am sure I read this somewhere a while back What religeons find celibrating offensive? so great then, lets water down our sport so the woman beating arabs who Murock the slut sell it too don't get offended by our freedom Screw that. I like the time wasting ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 What religeons find celibrating offensive? so great then, lets water down our sport so the woman beating arabs who Murock the slut sell it too don't get offended by our freedom Screw that. I like the time wasting ideal. haha, im just saying what I remember reading some where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 But why ? do they want to take there shirt off in the first place, what is the actual point in it ?. It NEVER used to happen. They also know that they will get booked so really its quite a pathetic thing to do. Dont say its because there happy because WE would all be taking ours off at the same time if that was the case . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Right, dont quote me on this, but im sure the main reason this is a bookable offence is because football is now recognised as a global sport, and in some religeons it can cause offence Like I said, im not 100% sure, but am sure I read this somewhere a while back Interesting slant. Though alcohol is banned in some countries and we splash Carlsberg logos everywhere. And isn't football a religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 But why ? do they want to take there shirt off in the first place, what is the actual point in it ?. It NEVER used to happen. They also know that they will get booked so really its quite a pathetic thing to do. Dont say its because there happy because WE would all be taking ours off at the same time if that was the case . I stripped naked last night .....5 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I never scored in front of 13,000 people, have in front of twenty people in Ashton Park but think how we feel as a supporter when the ball hits the back of the net then think how the player who just scored must feel and he's not aloud to take is shirt off to celebrate what a joke. Next thing will be your not aloud to cuddle each other after a goal incase you offend certain people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhyde Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I swear this is the second time Haynes has done this, or he did it for Ipswich and got booked. You get booked for doing so, so don't do it. That hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I may be wrong on this but i didn't think the actual wording of the rule says it's an automatic booking. As someone has posted above, it's only a booking if deemed to be inciteful or unsporting behaviour, i.e rubbing it into the oppostion. It falls to the referee's discretion, which they all seem to think, 'right, that's definately a booking'. In the 'Laws of the Game' there's a small section on how FIFA expect rules to be impemented, which essentially says shirt off = booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 But why ? do they want to take there shirt off in the first place, what is the actual point in it ?. It NEVER used to happen. They also know that they will get booked so really its quite a pathetic thing to do. Dont say its because there happy because WE would all be taking ours off at the same time if that was the case . exactly Bill, and I think Haynes should be fined by the club because he was then only one silly tackle away from being sent off. Every player knows the rules, so this is actually asking to be booked. Incidentally, we haven't seen it yet, but watch out for Campbell-Ryces first goal, because he removes his shirt every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EmersonsKev Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I was slightly concerned last night that Haynes was going to pick up a 2nd yellow card for a late challenge or something else after picking up his booking for the removal of his shirt. I was at Brentford where I saw him pick up a double booking with the 1st one being petulant and avoidable. I also find myself having to remind myself the lad is still only 22 and is youthful and easily excitable. Well done Dan, onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Half the rules, and implementation of rules, in football are a great big joke. You can clearly simulate injury, go down like a sack of Maris Pipers when someone brushes past you, take throw-ins miles from the correct place, appeal every referree/linesman decision even though you clearly know the ball came of you before going out, lose the abilty for your legs to carry your weight as you enter the penalty area ...all without redress. Take your top off though .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shire_redz Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I can remember back in the early nineties when a City striker, Bob Taylor I think, jumped into the crowd to celebrate With the fans after scoring. Probably get arrested for that now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Half the rules, and implementation of rules, in football are a great big joke. You can clearly simulate injury, go down like a sack of Maris Pipers when someone brushes past you, take throw-ins miles from the correct place, appeal every referree/linesman decision even though you clearly know the ball came of you before going out, lose the abilty for your legs to carry your weight as you enter the penalty area ...all without redress. Take your top off though .... Not forgetting to add... clearly obstruct a player when the ball is rolling out for a goal kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindjuicer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 The Independent article is excellent. Can't say I understand the compulsion to strip but it's a stupid rule for a stupid reason (and nothing to do with religion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Right, dont quote me on this, but im sure the main reason this is a bookable offence is because football is now recognised as a global sport, and in some religeons it can cause offence Like I said, im not 100% sure, but am sure I read this somewhere a while back Presumably these religions also find Olympic swimming offensive?! It's a mad world.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I stripped naked last night .....5 times I'm glad i had to work now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarTheRed Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 It is a ludicrous rule and no doubt refs hate having to do it. I assume it is a question of inciting the crowd but how is that so if you do it in front of your own fans? Yet if a player keeps his shirt on but taunts the opposition fans he is not booked. Just a small example of the pathetic way in which the game is administered, as the new ex FA Chief Executive might agree. When we played Leicester at home and they scored their player (Lloyd Dyer i think his name was) took his shirt off and chucked it on the ground and ran upto the away fans to celebrate. I'm sure he didn't get booked for this can anyone confirm ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted March 24, 2010 Admin Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 When we played Leicester at home and they scored their player (Lloyd Dyer i think his name was) took his shirt off and chucked it on the ground and ran upto the away fans to celebrate. I'm sure he didn't get booked for this can anyone confirm ??? Dyer was booked in this match but I haven't looked to see which minute it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Not forgetting to add... clearly obstruct a player when the ball is rolling out for a goal kick. Doh! That's my biggest pet hate of all. How did i forget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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