Warwickshire Red Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Would you like the Robin/suspension bridge badge back that we used in the old first division days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I prefer the current club badge used for the majority of our history than the 1970s advertising Robins re-branding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plimsolface Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Unicorns would win in a fight, easy choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jon Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I would like a new Robin badge design or a new bage some think that connected to Bristol City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Robin badges all look shite because they have robins on. I'm with SteveL, find a new nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol bell boy Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 the robin and bridge mean bristol city football club but the current badge can stand for bristol anything ie,rugby,the city council or cricket team. Surely with so many fans moaning about us being referred to as bristol the old 70,s badge tells other fans we are bristol city football club, and the media still use it to portray us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Lincs Red Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I voted to bring it back now, but as has been previously posted on here it wont happen, (not this season anyway). Would love to see it on the new kit somewhere thou....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The coat of arms works so well because it looks timeless, everything else (the robin) just looks like a ghastly example from the decade in which it was invented. Someone on here posted about Cheltenham's new badge and I thought that looked dreadful too - it looks like something from a piece of commercial stationery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 A new and improved current badge would do me with the robin being put somewere discreetly on the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plimsolface Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 the robin and bridge mean bristol city football club but the current badge can stand for bristol anything ie,rugby,the city council or cricket team. Surely with so many fans moaning about us being referred to as bristol the old 70,s badge tells other fans we are bristol city football club, and the media still use it to portray us. Don't you find it hipocritical of a forum called 'One Team In Bristol' that it moans about the club not being defined from the other teams? I do think the media should call us Bristol City but it's indicitive of the level of public awareness we've risen to that they do refer to us as bristol and therefore as bristol's only team. Concerning the badge, I agree with fka dagest, the badge is a symbol of our heritage and i'm perfectly fine with Swindon being the robins. What I would say though is get rid of the white shield shape behind the badge, I think it's ugly. I would have the badge on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The badge poll on here will always reflect the way of the current badge, it always has!! same old people voting 30 to 40 so say now the facebook group of 2,665 will not agree with keeping the crest it does not reflect this website!! http://www.facebook....88683348&ref=ts Another poll not long started 36 for the robin 5 against the crest http://host1.easypol...ll.html?p=12584 Facebook poll robin 391 crest 291 http://apps.facebook...2000533/results I take polls on this website with a pinch of salt as i do on zh .... BUT HERE GOES as in the nickname thread... I have never liked the crest, to many people have used it from the council, Bristol rovers, Bristol rugby club, gloucester cricket club to every thing Bristol ''we are not rovers'' or the others i stated, the rovers are the pirates and however shite their badge it represents them, the crest has no real ID to Bristol City, Bristol yes, but us as a club no, and i have read how irritated some get when the media refer us to as just ''BRISTOL'' it's the same feeling for me with this crest badge it has no ID of it's own to me or to our club, the robin may need a revamp granted but it is what we are called ''Bristol City fc The Robins'' we should have a badge to reflect our nickname and if that is to change ''the nickname'' then that should go hand in hand with our club badge... From ''we want our robin back'' facebook group The Robin is undoubtedly a icon of Britain featuring on Christmas cards but from 1976 for nearly two decades was along with the Suspension bridge the emblem of Bristol City fc. This period was without doubt the most successful but also turbulent in the clubs history. For a time during this period it seemed City had established themselves in the first division before becoming the first ever team to suffer three successive relegations and occupying bottom spot of the fourth division by early 82. In the mid nineties the decision was taken to change the clubs emblem back to a crest. Now some ten years and more on this move has still yet to really catch the imagination of fans or even become an instantly identifiable image associated with Bristol City fc. Ask most fans of other fans what is the nickname of Bristol City fc? Instantly it's the Robins. Ask what features on the club badge and the answer is the Robin and Suspension bridge not the crest of Bristol! Even the media constantly use the Robin and Suspension bridge seemingly in the mistaken belief it really is Citys current badge. There's something unlovable about the Crest. Its not really ours, Bristol City have no greater claim on it than anybody else and parts of the design have indeed been used by the noxious Gas in the past, the egg chasing lot up Gloucester road, the Bristol Car company and part currently looks suspiciously like the anti sport eating councils image. The Gas have as much claim to this badge as we do and we do not need a symbol that represents all of Bristol including Easton, East Vile, Fishponds and Whorefield. In the Robin and Suspension bridge we have the perfect emblem of our club. Here with its Suspension bridge is a celebration of a marvel of architecture which nobody else can lay claim to. Couple this with the Robin a Spirited fierce fighter, willing to battle with rival birds to the death to defend its territory and we have something to be proud of. This robin works, its simple, instantly recognisable with a perfect balance of red , white and black catching the onlookers attention and remaining in the memory. The Crest simply does not work in the same manner, its fussy, unoriginal, forever tainted with its association with others and the terrible and the repellent stigma pictured . The supporters trust use a robin on their logo is there plans to change? (hope not) forza eastend and the Three Lions use an angry robin is there plans to change?(no) the club use a badge that looks like 2 jaundice unicorns humping a ship and a castle wearing a silly snakes hat?? is there plans to change? hope so... A NEW ROBIN DESIGN??? So Someone out there design something new, lets see errr sink that slave ship!!! The arms are based on the early seals of Bristol, from which the ship and castle theme (signifying a strongly fortified harbour) developed. The shield was in use from about the 14th century, and to this was added in 1569 supporters (the two unicorns) and the crest (two arms rising from the clouds holding scales and a serpent). The significance of these various items is recorded in the City Audit Books of this time:- the Unicorns will only do homage to men of virtue; the arms in the crest signify that good government depends on wisdom (the serpent) and justice (the scales) and that these are divine gifts from above. By a patent of "Robert Cooke esq, alias Clariencieux, principall and kinge of armes of the southe easte and weste partes of this realme of England from the river of Trente southewardes", the arms of the city of Bristol are declared to be "gules on a mount vert, issuant out of a castle silver upon wave, a ship gold" and the crest and supporters granted in 1569 "upon the heaulme in a wreathe golde and gules; issuant out of the cloudes two armes in saltour charnew, in the one hand a serpent vert, in the other a pair of balance gold; supported with two unicornes seant gold mained, horned; and clayed sables mantled gules dowbled silver." The motto "Virtute et industria." Aug 20 1569 In short, the arms show a golden ship leaving from the Watergate of a silver castle. Bristol's castle at this time was a twin-towered structure, built in the 1240s by order of Henry III. Versions of the coat of arms can be seen in various places in the city from a decoration on the SS Great Britain (above left) to innumerable instances on public buildings. They even decorate the city's bridges. The arms also led to the pub name 'The Ship and Castle', seen in many areas which had connections with Bristol. The golden Unicorns perched on top of the Council House on College Green are based on the supporters from the city's arms. They arrived in 1950, a pair of 12 foot high gilt bronzes, much to the surprise of the Council. Only when the architect returned from holiday did they learn where the creatures were to live. The robin but from 1976 for nearly two decades was along with the Suspension bridge the emblem of Bristol City fc. This period was without doubt the most successful but also turbulent in the clubs history. For a time during this period it seemed City had established themselves in the first division before becoming the first ever team to suffer three successive relegations and occupying bottom spot of the fourth division by early 82. In the mid nineties the decision was taken to change the clubs emblem back to a crest. Now some ten years and more on this move has still yet to really catch the imagination of fans or even become an instantly identifiable image associated with Bristol City fc. Ask most fans of other fans what is the nickname of Bristol City fc? Instantly it's the Robins. Ask what features on the club badge and the answer is the Robin and Suspension bridge not the crest of Bristol! Even the media constantly use the Robin and Suspension bridge seemingly in the mistaken belief it really is Citys current badge. In the Robin and Suspension bridge we have the perfect emblem of our club. Here with its Suspension bridge is a celebration of a marvel of architecture which nobody else can lay claim to. Couple this with the Robin a Spirited fierce fighter, willing to battle with rival birds to the death to defend its territory and we have something to be proud of. This robin works, its simple, instantly recognisable with a perfect balance of red , white and black catching the onlookers attention and remaining in the memory. The Crest simply does not work in the same manner, its fussy, unoriginal, forever tainted with its association with others and the terrible and the repellent stigma pictured . http://www.facebook....88683348&v=wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 The coat of arms works so well because it looks timeless, everything else (the robin) just looks like a ghastly example from the decade in which it was invented. Someone on here posted about Cheltenham's new badge and I thought that looked dreadful too - it looks like something from a piece of commercial stationery. 100% with you on this, I totally hated the robin badge during our first division days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Robin badges all look shite because they have robins on. I'm with SteveL, find a new nickname. fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 100% with you on this, I totally hated the robin badge during our first division days. just the first division days? you must have hated it most of bcfc history, city had it during the 80's and up to mid nineties and as i remember the robin has been an icon with Bristol city for a very long time also Bristol city's shirts did not always have a badge on them and the crest was used before the robin and back to the crest after, however Bristol city have used the robin on their programmes for a long time even when there was no badge on the shirts, the image was a robin in front of a gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 fake Bollocks, no more or less fake than the completely artificial Robins nickname. Robins are gay, simple as that. All the robin badges look like a kid with some crayons did them during detention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I have never liked the crest, to many people have used it from the council, Bristol rovers, Bristol rugby club, gloucester cricket club to every thing Bristol ''we are not rovers'' or the others i stated, the rovers are the pirates and however shite their badge it represents them, the crest has no real ID to Bristol City, Bristol yes, but us as a club no, and i have read how irritated some get when the media refer us to as just ''BRISTOL'' it's the same feeling for me with this crest badge it has no ID of it's own to me or to our club, the robin may need a revamp granted but it is what we are called ''Bristol City fc The Robins'' we should have a badge to reflect our nickname and if that is to change ''the nickname'' then that should go hand in hand with our club badge... From ''we want our robin back'' facebook group The Robin is undoubtedly a icon of Britain featuring on Christmas cards but from 1976 for nearly two decades was along with the Suspension bridge the emblem of Bristol City fc. This period was without doubt the most successful but also turbulent in the clubs history. For a time during this period it seemed City had established themselves in the first division before becoming the first ever team to suffer three successive relegations and occupying bottom spot of the fourth division by early 82. In the mid nineties the decision was taken to change the clubs emblem back to a crest. Now some ten years and more on this move has still yet to really catch the imagination of fans or even become an instantly identifiable image associated with Bristol City fc. Ask most fans of other fans what is the nickname of Bristol City fc? Instantly it's the Robins. Ask what features on the club badge and the answer is the Robin and Suspension bridge not the crest of Bristol! Even the media constantly use the Robin and Suspension bridge seemingly in the mistaken belief it really is Citys current badge. There's something unlovable about the Crest. Its not really ours, Bristol City have no greater claim on it than anybody else and parts of the design have indeed been used by the noxious Gas in the past, the egg chasing lot up Gloucester road, the Bristol Car company and part currently looks suspiciously like the anti sport eating councils image. The Gas have as much claim to this badge as we do and we do not need a symbol that represents all of Bristol including Easton, East Vile, Fishponds and Whorefield. In the Robin and Suspension bridge we have the perfect emblem of our club. Here with its Suspension bridge is a celebration of a marvel of architecture which nobody else can lay claim to. Couple this with the Robin a Spirited fierce fighter, willing to battle with rival birds to the death to defend its territory and we have something to be proud of. This robin works, its simple, instantly recognisable with a perfect balance of red , white and black catching the onlookers attention and remaining in the memory. The Crest simply does not work in the same manner, its fussy, unoriginal, forever tainted with its association with others and the terrible and the repellent stigma pictured . The supporters trust use a robin on their logo is there plans to change? (hope not) forza eastend and the Three Lions use an angry robin is there plans to change?(no) the club use a badge that looks like 2 jaundice unicorns humping a ship and a castle wearing a silly snakes hat?? is there plans to change? hope so... A NEW ROBIN DESIGN??? So Someone out there design something new, lets see errr sink that slave ship!!! All of this. BRING BACK THE ROBIN / SUSPENSION BRIDGE!!! Send the boring crest back to the boring bureaucrats in the Council House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Red Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Bollocks, no more or less fake than the completely artificial Robins nickname. Robins are gay, simple as that. All the robin badges look like a kid with some crayons did them during detention. Whereas those two unicorns with blunt horns look real cool! I voted to bring the robin badge back. But, I'd be happy with a new updated robin/suspension bridge design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Whereas those two unicorns with blunt horns look real cool! I voted to bring the robin badge back. But, I'd be happy with a new updated robin/suspension bridge design. So are you saying if we make the horn sharp that would like the current badge? I'm with Nibor on this - the robin looks dated (and will look dated after every year unless updated every year) and quite frankly why would we want a robin, a single symbol that represents more clubs up and down the country than any other (its the most dull and boring middle of the road nickname going)! I hear arguments like "we make it our own by putting the suspension bridge on it" but if its the bridge that's our true representation then why include the robin? with this in mind why not make the badge bridge like and change the nickname to be something bridge like? obviously try and avoid making the badge look like the Cisco systems badge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 when I think of Bristol City - I immediately think of a slave ship and castle surrounded by two yellow horses with marital aids stuck to their heads. I'm also so proud of the hand holding a green snake = it's 100% Bristol City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 when I think of Altrincham Cheltenham Swindon Bristol City - I immediately think of a robin Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I love corporate re-branding. Let's ditch the word "Bristol" and the word "City" along with the "robins" nick name and call ourselves the "Lansdown Globe trotters" no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nibor Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 no thanks Shows the weakness of your argument really. Robins is a shit nickname and the badges with them on are childish. I'd much rather have the current badge than some crayola creation and if we have to have a nickname I'd rather it wasn't a chirpy little bird shared with half a dozen other teams. Keep on fighting your cause though, if you try hard enough they might just bring the 70s back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Shows the weakness of your argument really. Robins is a shit nickname and the badges with them on are childish. I'd much rather have the current badge than some crayola creation and if we have to have a nickname I'd rather it wasn't a chirpy little bird shared with half a dozen other teams. Keep on fighting your cause though, if you try hard enough they might just bring the 70s back. the robins badge is shit because you say it's shit great argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Firstly I am against the robin badge, I hate it and have always hated it and will always hate it. However as a nickname, for a place at the rear of the shirt and for items in the club shop I have no problem with it. and Nibor actually Robins are certainly not gay, They are one of the most violent and territorial birds in the bird world, Most fights between robins over territory inevitably ends in the death of one of them. They are a bird that will take no crap from other birds. When you feed garden birds and the various species are feeding, As soon as a robin comes onto the feed table the other species get out of the way very quickly, Too be honest they are not popular amongst other bird species and whilst other species bugger off during the winter to sunnier climes, The robin is still there visible in all winds and weathers, Well hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 the robins badge is shit because you say it's shit great argument It's an opinion. Do you need me to qualify it specially as such? Good luck trying to turn back time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Ship coming out of a City. Great way to sum up Bristol's past in a picture. As has been said the Robin was just a recent rebranding anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I'm definitely in favour of bringing the robins/bridge badge back. In my view the badge is all about having a specific identity. Many of the easily recognisable team badges have nothing to do with city crests and are instantly recognisable. You just have to look at random examples such Forest, Arsenal, Aberdeen, Birmingham, Leicester, Liverpool etc plus any number of foreign club badges such Juventus, Bayern Munich, Barcelona. In fact a lot of teams include their team name with an image and that's more or less it. If you looks at teams that use a city crest it just looks far too fussy and uninteresting in my opinion and certainly far from being instantly recognisable. It's all individual taste of course but having first seen City in the first division days, to me that robins badge IS Bristol City. It has a simple and easily recognisable image which not only reflects our Robins nickname but incorporates a strong Bristol icon in the suspension bridge. Opinion on this forum seems fairly split though CH has quite a few fans on facebook signed up to support the Robins badge. SL has said (understandably) that the nickname/badge aren't priorities for him. However, with over 2500 fans signed up on facebook, I think there seems enough support for the club to ask the fans what they really want if it's important to them. That's what I'd like to see anyway. Alternatively, if SL prefers an aggressive nickname image for the club maybe he'd prefer it if we changed our name to" the King Cobras" or "the Cobras". (Not much connection with Bristol there though unless you stuck a suspension bridge in behind!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northampton Red Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I'm kind of in between here, but I do think the badge should be changed-something edgier and modern but specifically defines who we are. If this has a robin in it or not, so be it! Anybody out there good with computer graphics?! I'm sure if they can knock up City's next kit then a badge shouldn't be too tricky. Would love to see some ideas of what people actually want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
156mat Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I think a badge similar in style to barca's would look good.have both the present badge and the robin with maybe something else included.just another idea to put out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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