fenric Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Reading everything around it seems clear Lansdown will stand by Millen for a good period of time yet, so i am i right in thinking that Lansdown has never sacked anyone at BCFC? To my (slightly sometimes dodgy) memory Danny Wilson walked (well, was made to walk if we believe the scuttlebutt from the time) Tins resigned GJ was 'mutual' CopOut was a basket case timewaster so the question is... Does Lansdown have the balls to actually outright SACK someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Reading everything around it seems clear Lansdown will stand by Millen for a good period of time yet, so i am i right in thinking that Lansdown has never sacked anyone at BCFC? To my (slightly sometimes dodgy) memory Danny Wilson walked (well, was made to walk if we believe the scuttlebutt from the time) Tins resigned GJ was 'mutual' CopOut was a basket case timewaster so the question is... Does Lansdown have the balls to actually outright SACK someone? Im fairly sure if he thought someone was incompetent then he would sack them. I am guessing he has probably done this in his professional career more than once. I would also suggest that he isn't prone to knee jerk reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFly2002 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Trust me when the chips are down, he will do the dead if he's needed to. You dont get to where Steve Lansdown has got by being a schrinking violet. From watching his interview post Norwich, I believe that he believes Millen will turn it around. I think that the pointhe is trying to make is that its virtually a whole new squad of players that nee dtime to gel. If you look at it on paper, there is no reason why we are in this position, Is Millen really to blame or is it the fact of things havent gelled as quickly as they should have for whatever reason ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Leaving by Mutual consent is just way of saying 'left whilst keeping face, else will be sacked' - Steve seems to favour giving people the chance to leave (in the certain knowledge that they will be forced to leave if they do not) thus people save some face, left as opposed to sacked looks better on your CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich i e Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Reading everything around it seems clear Lansdown will stand by Millen for a good period of time yet, so i am i right in thinking that Lansdown has never sacked anyone at BCFC? To my (slightly sometimes dodgy) memory Danny Wilson walked (well, was made to walk if we believe the scuttlebutt from the time) Tins resigned GJ was 'mutual' CopOut was a basket case timewaster so the question is... Does Lansdown have the balls to actually outright SACK someone? SL does his business in pvt, much like his transfer deals. He'll have a little word, tell 'em I 'advise' a resignation, give 'em a few quid, bye bye quietly, that's his style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megansdad Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 here we go again................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 here we go again................ It does your head in, doesn't it? How many more bloody times? Try asking around the local business community in Bristol whether he's got a tough streak or not. A bloke like him doesn't get where he is by being a soft touch. He tries where possible to let departing managers leave with a bit of dignity intact. Think about it. It makes sense. It's good for the reputation of the club and sends the message he's a good chairman to work for. But don't for one moment think he won't give somebody the bullet if he thinks it's called for. He hasn't ploughed millions into the thing just to ket it go tits up by being too nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanaticRed Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Lansdown will do what he wants to do when he feels the time is right to do so, not before! people forget this guy is woth mega mega bucks, somthing like 500 million? now he hasnt earned that fortune by being soft i can assure you! to earn that sort of money you have to have somthing about you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Hocking Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I really wonder about Steve - his comments when Coppell left were bizarre. It was as though, even when the bloke had sh*t on us, that SL felt grateful for the experience. He should have been furious in public - not just in private - and made it clear that BCFC was not going to be treated like that by anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I doubt he has the strength.... A businessman who has built up a circa £500m pile of cash for himself and knows how to conduct business with the best minds in the land is sure to be a shrinking violet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 on the other hand, i suppose he wont want to be seen in the public as a chairman that sacks for the sake of it, ie Milan Manderic (sp) at Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 on the other hand, i suppose he wont want to be seen in the public as a chairman that sacks for the sake of it, ie Milan Manderic (sp) at Leicester. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Hocking Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 on the other hand, i suppose he wont want to be seen in the public as a chairman that sacks for the sake of it, ie Milan Manderic (sp) at Leicester. Public perception is irrelevant and would be the worst possible reason not to make a change now. Leicester have Sven, we have KM. Whatever you think of Sven, he's a better manager than Millen and you can be pretty certain Leicester will finish top half with him in charge. If we sacked Millen now and replaced him with Megson/Pardew/Mowbray, it would make a few paragraphs in the national press and would be tomorrow's chip paper. Truth is, we are a club with zero national profile and should be free to do whatever we like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Public perception is irrelevant and would be the worst possible reason not to make a change now. Leicester have Sven, we have KM. Whatever you think of Sven, he's a better manager than Millen and you can be pretty certain Leicester will finish top half with him in charge. If we sacked Millen now and replaced him with Megson/Pardew/Mowbray, it would make a few paragraphs in the national press and would be tomorrow's chip paper. Truth is, we are a club with zero national profile and should be free to do whatever we like. You're right in saying public perception is irrelevant. The perceptions of people within the game is a rather different matter - especially the perceptions of the bloke you might like to appoint as your next manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Have no doubt that Lansdown would sack Millen if he thought that was right decision for the club. Familiarity wouldn't come into it. No-one gets to be as sucessfull as Steve Lansdown is without the ability to make tough calls. Every self made man has a ruthless streak and our chairman is no exception. I know a couple of blokes who came accross Lansdown in their professional lives in the past. Both said he has the skin of a rhino and is tough man who never takes prisoners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Lansdown will do what he wants to do when he feels the time is right to do so, not before! people forget this guy is woth mega mega bucks, somthing like 500 million? now he hasnt earned that fortune by being soft i can assure you! to earn that sort of money you have to have somthing about you. Mike Ashley was worth a lot of money and yet he ran Newcastle into the ground for a couple of seasons- do the two- i.e. business prowess and football club running nous, necessarily go wholly hand in hand? Not calling for Lansdown to go or anything along those lines though of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 You're right in saying public perception is irrelevant. The perceptions of people within the game is a rather different matter - especially the perceptions of the bloke you might like to appoint as your next manager. exactly that's what i meant to say in my earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenric Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Have to agree that SL wouldnt get anywhere in his business without being strong minded. Also agree that it is better to air club business in house rather than through the back pages. I am not knocking SL's dedication or aptitude, i also agree that knee jerk decisions are usually wrong - but KM's appointment struck me as a knee jerk, his removal wouldn't be. I hope that the problems the club are facing on and off the pitch won't sour our relationship with SL or his resolve to take the club forward, certainly this feels like the biggest test SL has faced while chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 SL does his business in pvt, much like his transfer deals. He'll have a little word, tell 'em I 'advise' a resignation, give 'em a few quid, bye bye quietly, that's his style. Thats probably right. He is a respectful business man. Not a Tango Jordan work-a-like. There are some decent rich guys about and one owns our club. So if anyone would expect him to jump out to the press with some controversial shit it won't happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman Sam Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Reading everything around it seems clear Lansdown will stand by Millen for a good period of time yet, so i am i right in thinking that Lansdown has never sacked anyone at BCFC? To my (slightly sometimes dodgy) memory Danny Wilson walked (well, was made to walk if we believe the scuttlebutt from the time) Tins resigned GJ was 'mutual' CopOut was a basket case timewaster so the question is... Does Lansdown have the balls to actually outright SACK someone? I think he does after QPR he will be sacked if the results continue in the same nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riley the great 86 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 i dont think Lansdown will sack Millen, i believe Millen will walk if results dont improve ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everreddy Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 i dont think Lansdown will sack Millen, i believe Millen will walk if results dont improve ! If the EP is to be believed, he won't walk. This could be suicidal, if SL stands by him, and KM digs in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I think Millen has 3 games left to turn it around, then it will be a "by mutual consent" type of announcement Good job Lansdown reads OTIB to get some business advice !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepton red Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 If the EP is to be believed, he won't walk. This could be suicidal, if SL stands by him, and KM digs in.... Keith Millen has not built a reputation like GJ, so will find it difficult to manage another club; like Gary. Keith Millen has a 3 yr contract, worth £xxxx Keith Millen has a family What club will take him if he leaves us? Forget the 'I have never walked away from anything.......' line. If I was in Keith's shoes, I would not walk either, it would be comitting finacial suicide. IMO KM will not walk from BCFC he will have to be pushed, the only way he could go in an amicable manner would be if SL and KM have a gentlemans agreement. All of course caveated with IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.