tinman-is-god Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I know this is stating the obvious, but the need is immediate. Palace sat back 2nd half with virtually a back eight and we had a lot of possession, but what we didn't have was anyone who could actually use the ball effectively. LJ tries but invariably fails and it is embarrassing that we have such an inability on the ball. It leads to a failure to break down teams and a reliance on Adomah, with virtually no outlets of creativity from anyone in the midfield. The 2nd half was a truly woeful affair, and if we don't sign someone who can both use and keep the ball well, we will struggle to break out of the bottom few places in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Bristol-City_ Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Millen said this 2/3 weeks ago, it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly in the air Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 i agree with u 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Millen said this 2/3 weeks ago, it will happen. I hope so, because if it doesn't we are screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Millen said this 2/3 weeks ago, it will happen. I hope so, because if it doesn't we are screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Just a case of waiting for the window to open, sooner we have one incoming the better. No central midfield partnership from the players we have is ideal, just a case of making the best of what we have in the meantime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 i agree with u 100% Tell me, This creative midfielder...... If he is going to be any good, and not a knackered old pro, he is going to cost a packet....... ...... unless he is a life-long City fan, and fancy's a stint at a club on the fringe of the relegation zone? Sorry if this sounds a bit negative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Tell me, This creative midfielder...... If he is going to be any good, and not a knackered old pro, he is going to cost a packet....... ...... unless he is a life-long City fan, and fancy's a stint at a club on the fringe of the relegation zone? Sorry if this sounds a bit negative! Obviously it will cost money but it will save us a hell of a lot more than relegating ourselves to League One. We may have to rely on a six-month loan from the Prem but you would hope our scouting network would know a few options. We will be looking to move three or four players off the wage bill so hopefully that could free up some funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwhat Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 If he is going to be any good, and not a knackered old pro, he is going to cost a packet....... I wouldn't mind that knackered old pro back from Scotland! I know the finances don't add up but maybe if we ship some deadwood we can invest? Or maybe we need this 'ere stadium first!? 2nd half long ball rubbish reminded me of the final days of GJ, desperate, punishment, :fastasleep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I wouldn't mind that knackered old pro back from Scotland! I know the finances don't add up but maybe if we ship some deadwood we can invest? Or maybe we need this 'ere stadium first!? 2nd half long ball rubbish reminded me of the final days of GJ, desperate, punishment, :fastasleep: Oh dear. Please don't tell me our problems will be solved by this midfield messiah? Recent BCFC transfer successes:- 1) Bob Taylor 2) Nicky Maynard. Let's see if Millen can top that. "Shit". ..... we get a decent midfielder: the defence packs up / we stop scoring goals / all three keepers break legs. I could do with a laugh, so, guys, who is this midlield demon going to be?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Bounce Around Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Obviously we need a creative midfielder.. Can any one actually suggest some one that we can realistically afford and that will want to get involved in a relegation battle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Oh dear. Please don't tell me our problems will be solved by this midfield messiah? Recent BCFC transfer successes:- 1) Bob Taylor 2) Nicky Maynard. Let's see if Millen can top that. "Shit". ..... we get a decent midfielder: the defence packs up / we stop scoring goals / all three keepers break legs. I could do with a laugh, so, guys, who is this midlield demon going to be?? So are you telling me that there is no creative midfielder better than Lee Johnson available to Bristol City and that we have had two transfer successes in the last 21 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Obviously we need a creative midfielder.. Can any one actually suggest some one that we can realistically afford and that will want to get involved in a relegation battle? There is someone affordable out there who would do a better job than Johnson, surely. Also, if we can afford £12,000 a week for Stead (who we are rightly paying good money), we have to put the same level of importance on this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citylad05 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I've always said we missed Hartley, but obviously thats the past now. So i hope to see a players like Danns or some young loan players like Emmanuel - Thomas or Lansbury/Randall. Would Edgar Davids be a good short move? unless hes finished ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 We can't afford not to get a creative midfielder in. I'd be happy to see the back of a few to make room on the wage bill to accomodate a player of Danns quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 The thing that always amazes me every season is the fact we haven't learned a thing from the previous season. We still believe throwing more money at the problem is going to solve it. Does anyone know if Steve or Keith have a plan in place, a short term or long term plan that sees us producing our own players or coaching our existing ones to be better. Surely we have spent enough money now to realise that we are no better off than last season and considerably worse off than 2 seasons previous to that when we spent very little. This message should be, sorry Keith your predecessors have blown the budget, we are extremely over staffed, so you need to work with the massive squad you have to get us out of trouble. You wanted the job, go out and do it like a good coach would. Coach the players rather than buying new ones, they were good enough last season, they should be good enough this season too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 The thing that always amazes me every season is the fact we haven't learned a thing from the previous season. We still believe throwing more money at the problem is going to solve it. Does anyone know if Steve or Keith have a plan in place, a short term or long term plan that sees us producing our own players or coaching our existing ones to be better. Surely we have spent enough money now to realise that we are no better off than last season and considerably worse off than 2 seasons previous to that when we spent very little. This message should be, sorry Keith your predecessors have blown the budget, we are extremely over staffed, so you need to work with the massive squad you have to get us out of trouble. You wanted the job, go out and do it like a good coach would. Coach the players rather than buying new ones, they were good enough last season, they should be good enough this season too. Last season's midfield contained Paul Hartley, this season's doesn't. We need to replace him, as LJ is not good enough, that's why we signed Hartley in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenyards Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Danns did look good today - but you can't buy a creative midfield player on the basis that he looked good against us in one game - Sno looked a world beater for Ajax against us and everyone called for him to be signed...he never fulfilled that promise. Johnson and Elliott both had poor games today but they have had good games on other occassions. We need to be absolutely sure that players we buy are better than current ones...if Danns is so good how come Palace are struggling at the bottom of the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanaticRed Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Oh dear. Please don't tell me our problems will be solved by this midfield messiah? Recent BCFC transfer successes:- 1) Bob Taylor 2) Nicky Maynard. Let's see if Millen can top that. "Shit". ..... we get a decent midfielder: the defence packs up / we stop scoring goals / all three keepers break legs. I could do with a laugh, so, guys, who is this midlield demon going to be?? Sammy Clingan or Brian Howard would be good shouts! both out of favour for 1 reason or another, both aged below 30, both decent players at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Only one persons fault for our teams lack of creativity.......we all know what that is. Diggers will only get you so far.... BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Danns did look good today - but you can't buy a creative midfield player on the basis that he looked good against us in one game - Sno looked a world beater for Ajax against us and everyone called for him to be signed...he never fulfilled that promise. Johnson and Elliott both had poor games today but they have had good games on other occassions. We need to be absolutely sure that players we buy are better than current ones...if Danns is so good how come Palace are struggling at the bottom of the table. Exactly. Also Danns didn't strike me as being particularly creative, has a good engine and gets stuck in, but we have Marv. Thought Scammell looked pretty good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Us_and_Them Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Oh dear. Please don't tell me our problems will be solved by this midfield messiah? Recent BCFC transfer successes:- 1) Bob Taylor 2) Nicky Maynard. Let's see if Millen can top that. "Shit". ..... we get a decent midfielder: the defence packs up / we stop scoring goals / all three keepers break legs. I could do with a laugh, so, guys, who is this midlield demon going to be?? I know we got plenty of strikers but how i would love to see another bob taylor down the gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Exactly. Also Danns didn't strike me as being particularly creative, has a good engine and gets stuck in, but we have Marv. Thought Scammell looked pretty good though. At least 2 shots on target, one of which a fantastic 25 yard free kick goal, pretty much more creative than our "creative mid man" has produced in the last 2 seasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 At least 2 shots on target, one of which a fantastic 25 yard free kick goal, pretty much more creative than our "creative mid man" has produced in the last 2 seasons! Goddam, knew someone would pick me up on that. Apart from that though ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutley147 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Maybe Ben Davies of Notts County? He was incredible in League 2 last season, and seems to still be doing very well in league 1. Can't cost too much and can pick a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Im not sure if he has been playing much this season, but if not, then surely Ben Watson of Wigan would be a good shout? He's creative,scores goals and always looked good whenever he played against us. EDIT: I have just checked and he's made 4 starts and 5 sub appearances in the league this season, which says to me as he's not an automatic 1st choice it's not gonna hurt to enquire about his availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcindoes Ego Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Not seen many games this season but the midfield dilemma just doesn't go away. LJ can pass a ball but struggles to threaten the box. Any other combination of 2 ballwinners do just that. So we rely on Albert too much and teams soon double up on him. Yesterday saw JCR on the left working hard but cutting back onto his right foot so making the middle line at an angle across the pitch. We need to get bodies in the box for any crosses that come over. (Haynes heads against the post and nobody there to support) I thought like others that Danns looked like the sort of player we need when carrying the ball and had an end product. Caulker looks a talent and will go on to higher levels, and I also thought Skuse was no mean RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Its a bit of a farce really. How many years ago were people talking about the need for a player like Danns, Jarvis, Hoolahan etc? 3-4 years?? All this time later and the same players are terrorising us whilst we've not had anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcdeano Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Maybe Ben Davies of Notts County? He was incredible in League 2 last season, and seems to still be doing very well in league 1. Can't cost too much and can pick a pass. Ben Davies is heavily rumoured to be going to Derby Stick JCR in the middle - give him 90 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Its a bit of a farce really. How many years ago were people talking about the need for a player like Danns, Jarvis, Hoolahan etc? 3-4 years?? All this time later and the same players are terrorising us whilst we've not had anyone. In that time we have had Willaims, Carle and Hartley come and gone for one reason or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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