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Pleased about that. I thought he linked up really well with Albert at right back and had a good run there before injury. He had some unfair criticism for games when he had just come back from injury. If Louis is fully fit then he can still play a significant role and is one of those 'good to have around' players. Maybe not first choice initially unless he has a storming pre-season but he'll be a good squad member given his versatility at centre back and full-back for what I assume will be his final season

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Pleased about that. I thought he linked up really well with Albert at right back and had a good run there before injury. He had some unfair criticism for games when he had just come back from injury. If Louis is fully fit then he can still play a significant role and is one

of those 'good to have around' players. Maybe not first choice initially unless he has a storming pre-season but he'll be a good squad member given his versatility at centre back and full-back for what I assume will be

his final season

Totally agree, If he can stay injury free I still think he can play for 2+ years.

Experience is a big thing in the Championship and his is important to our team IMO.

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Two years no problem,very good at right back and don't forget he has played there many seasons before,Carey fit still has plenty to offer.

Cant play right back, wont play right back, he hates it. Carey is a centre half and allways has been. Chuffed he's signed this deal, he might not have the legs/engine/fitness, but his experience, professionalsum(sp) and love of the Club is important, plus the players all look up to and respect him, he is the skipper for a reason.

omg why is my spelling check not working :(

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Cant play right back, wont play right back, he hates it. Carey is a centre half and allways has been. Chuffed he's signed this deal, he might not have the legs/engine/fitness, but his experience, professionalsum(sp) and love of the Club is important, plus the players all look up to and respect him, he is the skipper for a reason.

omg why is my spelling check not working :(

Accept for promotion year under Ward, and in the season where Murray scored all those goals and to some sucsess last season when fit. But yeah, other than that can't play RB 

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funny that, our form picked up when he came in at right back after our horror start...

We were bottom at Christmas! If thats picked up form I really dont want to see a downturn!

How the lack of football through the summer clouds the judgement!

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Surely only signed as backup? Which leads to an interesting question over captaincy.

Personally I dont think he should have been offered contract, should have at least waited till end of pre season and seen what his fitness is like and what other singings are brought in. Would prefer Fontaine, Stewart, Nytanga and Wilson all ahead of him. Ive never understood the love in with Carey. Granted only starting following City wembley onwards.

I just hope hes not there for his performance off the pitch-behind the scenes or in the dressing room. I personally hate that, its a massive waste of wages. If your not good enough any more your not good enough any more. Millen always says his signings are to improve squad, I dont see how it does. Would prefer he took a punt on a couple of youngsters.

But then again Im not a qualified football manager and Im rubbish at FM.

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Surely only signed as backup? Which leads to an interesting question over captaincy.

Personally I dont think he should have been offered contract, should have at least waited till end of pre season and seen what his fitness is like and what other singings are brought in. Would prefer Fontaine, Stewart, Nytanga and Wilson all ahead of him. Ive never understood the love in with Carey. Granted only starting following City wembley onwards.

I just hope hes not there for his performance off the pitch-behind the scenes or in the dressing room. I personally hate that, its a massive waste of wages. If your not good enough any more your not good enough any more. Millen always says his signings are to improve squad, I dont see how it does. Would prefer he took a punt on a couple of youngsters.

But then again Im not a qualified football manager and Im rubbish at FM.

Its hard to wait until the end of pre-season when his contract ended yesterday,

Also millen said signings are to improve squad, thats not the same as keeping people we already have

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Its hard to wait until the end of pre-season when his contract ended yesterday,

Also millen said signings are to improve squad, thats not the same as keeping people we already have

So working on that logic we can expect Hunt to be offered a new deal when his expires, as he's already here?

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Its hard to wait until the end of pre-season when his contract ended yesterday,

Also millen said signings are to improve squad, thats not the same as keeping people we already have

True I take the contract point. Have to disagree on 2nd part all signings should be to improve squad new contract or otherwise.

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True I take the contract point. Have to disagree on 2nd part all signings should be to improve squad new contract or otherwise.

With current players it shouldnt be a case of do they improve the squad, cus they are already part of that squad you want them to improve. With current players it should be are we weaker without them? If the answer is yes, keep them. Do we have 3 CB's that are better than Carey? if not, we need to keep him or replace him (but were not having much luck replacing cauker yet, let alone another CB)

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He's been a good player for City in the past, was shocking in quite a few games last season and I honestly thought we were turning a corner over dishing out soft contracts. His legs have gone and I don't know how this works when you consider we have Stewart, Nyatanga, Wilson, Fontaine fighting for two positions. Hey ho, perhaps we are about to sell a couple.

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<br />Cant play right back, wont play right back, he hates it. Carey is a centre half and allways has been. Chuffed he's signed this deal, he might not have the legs/engine/fitness, but his experience, professionalsum(sp) and love of the Club is important, plus the players all look up to and respect him, he is the skipper for a reason. <br /><br />omg why is my spelling check not working <img src='http://www.otib.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /><br />
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You obviously can remember when Carey was right back with scott Murray in front of him and the continues overlapping then,how long you been watching city play ???????

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With current players it shouldnt be a case of do they improve the squad, cus they are already part of that squad you want them to improve. With current players it should be are we weaker without them? If the answer is yes, keep them. Do we have 3 CB's that are better than Carey? if not, we need to keep him or replace him (but were not having much luck replacing cauker yet, let alone another CB)

Defends on your definition. Heres my example.

Improves- Edwards signing extension. Young, cheap, in a position that needs cover, good injury record, Likely to improve.

Weakens- Carey for all the opposite of the above.

Also imo we have CBs better already as I posted earlier. Now Im not sayin I wouldnt offer say Cisse an extension as hes not young and likely to improve a great deal but I think you have to draw the line somewhere.

As someone else posted 'soft contract' Millen could of made a real statement of intent releasing club captain.

That peanut is my argument in a nutshell.

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Defends on your definition. Heres my example.

Improves- Edwards signing extension. Young, cheap, in a position that needs cover, good injury record, Likely to improve.

Weakens- Carey for all the opposite of the above.

Also imo we have CBs better already as I posted earlier. Now Im not sayin I wouldnt offer say Cisse an extension as hes not young and likely to improve a great deal but I think you have to draw the line somewhere.

As someone else posted 'soft contract' Millen could of made a real statement of intent releasing club captain.

That peanut is my argument in a nutshell.

Absolutely right.

It seems the noises coming out of the club about the necessity to reduce squad numbers were hollow words.

Carey has been in decline for several seasons and now struggles all too often at Championship level - too slow, too prone to injury ( not surprising, or a criticism - after 16 years or so as a pro. footballer, it's almost inevitable) and could embarrass himself and cost City points in the very few games he is likely to start from now on.

A really disappointing decision (or lack of one) by the club, and, unless we fail to sign any new defenders at all (KM seems determined to sign 2 minimum) a year's wage will probably be spent with just a handful of appearances to show in return.

He wasn't a regular first choice last season and the likes of Edwards and Wilson must be gnashing their teeth in frustration that it seems the veteran may well get first team action before them if this contract is to be seen to be justified in a year's time.

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Only Bristol City fans could slag off a player who has played over 600 games for the club.

He still has plenty to offer, his experience alone for example.

People have forgotten already who helped Albert time and time again last season with words of encouragement down the right flank. When Alberts head dropped he was always the one helping and encouraging him on to better things. His Experience counts a he'll of a lot to our younger players and I bet they would be the first to say this.

He gives his all everytime he puts on the shirt which is what I read on here time after time that other players don't do.

He's still a decent player at this level and I'm sure he will prove that to his detractors this season.

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Pleased about that. I thought he linked up really well with Albert at right back and had a good run there before injury. He had some unfair criticism for games when he had just come back from injury. If Louis is fully fit then he can still play a significant role and is one of those 'good to have around' players. Maybe not first choice initially unless he has a storming pre-season but he'll be a good squad member given his versatility at centre back and full-back for what I assume will be his final season

Good for the dressing room as well Caulker said on Spurs website i have played with good experienced players in the last two years i would think Carey was one of these people.

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Only Bristol City fans could slag off a player who has played over 600 games for the club.

Nobody on this thread, as far as I'm aware, dislikes Carey or is 'slagging him off' - this is simply about whether we think offering him another contract was the right thing for the club to do and giving reasons why we might oppose the decision. He's had a great career at City but all good things must come to an end. We can't afford to hand out expensive contracts to players who will almost certainly barely feature.

He still has plenty to offer, his experience alone for example.

He won't be a first choice and we have other experienced players.

People have forgotten already who helped Albert time and time again last season with words of encouragement down the right flank.

Come off it, Carey only played 20 games and for the majority of Albert's appearances Carey wasn't even in the team.

He gives his all everytime he puts on the shirt which is what I read on here time after time that other players don't do.

Maximum effort is to be expected from all players and on it's own is not enough. We may be lacking in many areas as a team but I don't see lack of effort as being a problem.

He's still a decent player at this level and I'm sure he will prove that to his detractors this season.

He has been in noticeable decline for several seasons. The only way he can prove his 'detractors' (people who've noticed he has been mistake prone as well as slowing down markedly over the past few seasons and are willing to say so) wrong is by playing 30+ games next season on merit.

If he does play in the majority of games, and this doesn't hinder the progress of the likes of Wilson and Edwards - who certainly should be getting games - then you might just have a point, but it's hard to imagine any injury scenario so disastrous that this might occur.

I've nothing at all against Carey - I like him due to his stalwart service to the club, but you have to draw the line under a player's career at this level at some stage and in my opinion this is simply a contract too far.

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If he does play in the majority of games, and this doesn't hinder the progress of the likes of Wilson and Edwards - who certainly should be getting games - then you might just have a point, but it's hard to imagine any injury scenario so disastrous that this might occur.

I've nothing at all against Carey - I like him due to his stalwart service to the club, but you have to draw the line under a player's career at this level at some stage and in my opinion this is simply a contract too far.

He is not stopping the players coming through he is helping them, Wilson ETC look up to him for advice.

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Only Bristol City fans could slag off a player who has played over 600 games for the club.

He still has plenty to offer, his experience alone for example.

People have forgotten already who helped Albert time and time again last season with words of encouragement down the right flank. When Alberts head dropped he was always the one helping and encouraging him on to better things. His Experience counts a he'll of a lot to our younger players and I bet they would be the first to say this.

He gives his all everytime he puts on the shirt which is what I read on here time after time that other players don't do.

He's still a decent player at this level and I'm sure he will prove that to his detractors this season.

On the money Bill. Numerous occasions where Carey was visibly talking Albert through games at the beginning of the season when he was still learning the pace of the championship. Albert looked like he had given up or was thoroughly pissed off when he got kicked all over the park on a couple of occasions and Carey was the man to come put his hand on his shoulder and help him regain his "game face"

Not to mention Carey was solid in our first good run of the season after the Cardiff game, and things looked a lot more solid with him in the side all season until the signing of Spence.

Unless we bring in a new right back then he will be in the starting eleven next season. Ribeiro's injury list will no doubt continue and even when he is fit there are doubts over his positional sense which is so important at full back, Same problem exists for young Joe Edwards who despite an overall solid display against Hull showed glimpses of a player who isn't quite ready for championship football.

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