Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Agree entirely with your evaluation of Johnson. Back on topic the club then and now and not unlike English football in general is very reluctant to promote young talent. If the talent is not there then the coaching staff should be replaced just like the first team mananger would be. But in this case as in many others a talented prospect was stiffled and went elsewhere, for a club like ours that is not a good thing. So you agree with the above?. What has all this stifled talent achieved having gone elsewhere?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Back on topic the club then and now and not unlike English football in general is very reluctant to promote young talent. If the talent is not there then the coaching staff should be replaced just like the first team mananger would be. But in this case as in many others a talented prospect was stiffled and went elsewhere, for a club like ours that is not a good thing. So you agree with the above?. What has all this stifled talent achieved having gone elsewhere?. I didn't comment on that, I said I agreed with his evaluation of Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Think someone has been drinking too much or is on their period. Indeed. Pointless attempting to discuss with these types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Indeed. Pointless attempting to discuss with these types In the same way it's pointless talking to you about Johnson? And pointless talking to me about mcindoe. For the record, I think EMB is right here, maybe GJ's reasoning was wrong regarding youth but as yet not one of his decisions to let players go has been a mistake. Certainly not a provable mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Indeed. Pointless attempting to discuss with these types Discussion with you!. As I said before your problem is anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and you hang on to anyone no matter how tenuous their view is to yours. But not for the first time you have failed to answer a question regarding your original post on this thread, because you never know it might change mine and other peoples view to be the same as yours. So i'll try once more Please feel free to give the forum a list of youth/academy players, who have had their careers stifled by GJ, that have actually gone on to achieve bigger and better or even parallel things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Montana Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Wasnt he the guy we used to have as a youngster who moved to Panathinaikos and was recently on trial with Birmingham. On the official site it says he played for the City X1 last night, so anyone know is he on trial? http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10327~2429386,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Great player and was sad to see him leave...... SIGN HIM ON!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Can he play left back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderSomerset Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Wasnt he the guy we used to have as a youngster who moved to Panathinaikos and was recently on trial with Birmingham. On the official site it says he played for the City X1 last night, so anyone know is he on trial? http://www.bcfc.co.u...2429386,00.html I saw that, are we looking to bring him back??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Always seemed to be regarded as a big talent, plus as he's a winger and we desperately need one of those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim S Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Wasnt he the guy we used to have as a youngster who moved to Panathinaikos and was recently on trial with Birmingham. On the official site it says he played for the City X1 last night, so anyone know is he on trial? http://www.bcfc.co.u...2429386,00.html the match was played this afternoon, finished about half an hour ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Yep about time we signed another winger, it's been a couple of weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Wasnt he the guy we used to have as a youngster who moved to Panathinaikos and was recently on trial with Birmingham. On the official site it says he played for the City X1 last night, so anyone know is he on trial? http://www.bcfc.co.u...2429386,00.html My eyes nearly popped out (not really) when I saw the boy's name! So someone tell me a bit more about him. Can he do a job around the first team and where? (I saw someone say he was a winger anything else...Rfooter/Lfooter can he play at FB or 'play maker'?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted August 23, 2011 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 A quick Google reveals that he has also had short trials with Stoke City and Birmingham this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 My eyes nearly popped out (not really) when I saw the boy's name! So someone tell me a bit more about him. Can he do a job around the first team and where? (I saw someone say he was a winger anything else...Rfooter/Lfooter can he play at FB or 'play maker'?) Have a look at this mate >>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 It looks like Robert Stambolziev is now back with us for a trial! They all come crawling back ! . source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Have a look at this mate >>>> Thanks Badger...Hope things are well with you!? The kid looks good and obviously has ability...I know City were very disappointed to lose him so I hope it works out and he can compete for a place in the side very soon!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 just when I thought it couldnt get any better...........we got start sniffing around another winger!! this has to be a joke surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Is he a LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetstreet Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 What is the club playing at? The last thing we need is another attacking player who only two years ago thought he was too good for us and tried to cash in on a free move abroad. Far more important is to use any money that is spare to offer Fontaine an improved contract. He is our most dependable defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 How are we going to pay his wages ? We cant afford to bring in loan players can we ?? Or is it just the loan fee's we cant afford??? It's all getting a bit confusing !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezOfCity Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 So if we never showed any interest in him and he went to say . . . Peterborough, had a stormer of a season and got sold for 1m plus that would be better? I'm not saying thats definately going to happen but its only a trial and if he were to sign hed be on a free and i imagine a short term contract so its very low risk. It's in the clubs interests to look at any potential players that may improve the squad OR provide sell-on profit, something the club havent done in a long time. And it can happen, look at danny graham for example, went to watford on a free and 3 years later sold for 3.5 million. At the end of the day atm he is only on trial, so nothing to get too worked up about yet, i for one hope he does sign and is quality for us, wouldn't that be better than letting another oen slip through the net? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Wurzel II Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Maybe the rumour about one of our midfielders (the one with 2 years left on his contract!!) being unsettled and wanting a move away is true, if so this could be the replacement lined up ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 So if we never showed any interest in him and he went to say . . . Peterborough, had a stormer of a season and got sold for 1m plus that would be better? I'm not saying thats definately going to happen but its only a trial and if he were to sign hed be on a free and i imagine a short term contract so its very low risk. It's in the clubs interests to look at any potential players that may improve the squad OR provide sell-on profit, something the club havent done in a long time. And it can happen, look at danny graham for example, went to watford on a free and 3 years later sold for 3.5 million. At the end of the day atm he is only on trial, so nothing to get too worked up about yet, i for one hope he does sign and is quality for us, wouldn't that be better than letting another oen slip through the net? why not sign every youngster in the world then? or...how about we develop the players we have hear already? Bolasie and Woolford need to be looked after and developed. On top of this, our squad is to big as it is and needs trimming back. We need to be bringing in players that are only better then what we have now. Could be a decent player yeah....but so could Bolasie.... I appreciate you say its low risk, but we have already bought in two development players this summer, lets put any money we have towards players who can make a difference NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezOfCity Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 why not sign every youngster in the world then? or...how about we develop the players we have hear already? Bolasie and Woolford need to be looked after and developed. On top of this, our squad is to big as it is and needs trimming back. We need to be bringing in players that are only better then what we have now. Could be a decent player yeah....but so could Bolasie.... I appreciate you say its low risk, but we have already bought in two development players this summer, lets put any money we have towards players who can make a difference NOW I agree with what you say, but ideally we need to find a balance between our own academy youngsters and players brought in from the free transfer method. If a player is interested in joining us, and he would be a positive addition to the squad then why shouldn't we sign him regardless of position or history? It's all well and good trimming the squad but we do need to make additions aswell, trimming the squad doesn't just meaning getting rid of players, it means getting rid of players that have nothing to offer anymore. I believe that the clubs policy is to take on players that represent a good deal for the club when they become available, wasn't this the reason we signed bolasie in the first place? not neccessarily someone we were going to go all out to sign but at the price too good to refuse? If we wait till we have trimmed all the excess players, there is no garuntee that any players will be available at that time to improve the squad, so it makes sense to pick up players now with the future in mind. And for the record ive a good feeling about him, it can't have been easy for him to come back here bearing in mind the way he left before, in this kind of circumstance its not uncommon for players to give that extra 10% not only on the pitch but also in training and on their own development, as he will (should) feel he has a point to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I agree with what you say, but ideally we need to find a balance between our own academy youngsters and players brought in from the free transfer method. If a player is interested in joining us, and he would be a positive addition to the squad then why shouldn't we sign him regardless of position or history? It's all well and good trimming the squad but we do need to make additions aswell, trimming the squad doesn't just meaning getting rid of players, it means getting rid of players that have nothing to offer anymore. I believe that the clubs policy is to take on players that represent a good deal for the club when they become available, wasn't this the reason we signed bolasie in the first place? not neccessarily someone we were going to go all out to sign but at the price too good to refuse? If we wait till we have trimmed all the excess players, there is no garuntee that any players will be available at that time to improve the squad, so it makes sense to pick up players now with the future in mind. And for the record ive a good feeling about him, it can't have been easy for him to come back here bearing in mind the way he left before, in this kind of circumstance its not uncommon for players to give that extra 10% not only on the pitch but also in training and on their own development, as he will (should) feel he has a point to prove. Exactly! Exactly!! Colin SL and the board must be aware by now that we are simply going to have to suck it up when it comes to players we cant move on. I know this is not a good situation for the club the players or supporters but is often the result of multiple managers over a small period...I'm just glad its SL doing the sucking (no pun intended) rather than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Maybe he is on good terms with Millen and is just looking to stay fit? Can you play in Reserve games in this kind of role or only train with the squad? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punnett Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I see 17 year old Bobby Medj came on as sub for him, City seem to be pushing him on this season, he's been seen as the next big thing from the academy for the last few years, certainly one of the best young kids i've seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 From what I saw of RS he could certainly play the attacking midfield/ deep lying centre forward role. He was supposed to be a cocky so and so but the fact that he is swallowing a bit of pride in coming back here must say something about his current attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Whenever I see his name, I always think of Rob Elstob. Now there was a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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