bangers Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 What does he add to our side? All i see him ever do is running around a lot. Pro's He runs around a lot He has long legs Con's He doesnt get forward He doesnt score goals He regularly gets caught in possesion He cant control the ball He cant tackle He often looks anonomous throughout a game He cannot pass Why is this guy a mainstay in the side? Im not trying to bash him, but I just really CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Not trying to bash him? like to see it if you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordie Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 cos the manager see's something in him that a lot of us dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 For Cole Skuse today read Joe Burnell when Wilson was in charge. Everybody else can see he's at best very average but the manager thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Perhaps Bath City could find a spot for Skuse too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 What does he add to our side? All i see him ever do is running around a lot. Pro's He runs around a lot He has long legs Con's He doesnt get forward He doesnt score goals He regularly gets caught in possesion He cant control the ball He cant tackle He often looks anonomous throughout a game He cannot pass Why is this guy a mainstay in the side? Im not trying to bash him, but I just really CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT??????? Neither can I, mate. IMO it is our midfield, not our back four who are woefully inadequate. When Skuse was injured last season and Cisse had a good run we played better as a team. Skuse and JCR are simply not up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 cos the manager see's something in him that a lot of us dont. Maybe he is Millen's illegitimate son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Neither can I, mate. IMO it is our midfield, not our back four who are woefully inadequate. When Skuse was injured last season and Cisse had a good run we played better as a team. Skuse and JCR are simply not up to it. JCR was superb against Pompey, and one of our better players against Ipswich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 JCR was superb against Pompey, and one of our better players against Ipswich. Hmmmm flatters to deceive, maybe. End product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Hmmmm flatters to deceive, maybe. End product? Very little But the fact he runs at players and gets in positions is more than anyone else is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Very little But the fact he runs at players and gets in positions is more than anyone else is doing Well, imo all of the cons you levelled at Skuse in your original post you could equally have levelled at JCR. Our problem is midfield. We have all been quick to crucify the back four but they simply get overrun. Maybe that is why they play hoofball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Well, imo all of the cons you levelled at Skuse in your original post you could equally have levelled at JCR. Our problem is midfield. We have all been quick to crucify the back four but they simply get overrun. Maybe that is why they play hoofball. JCR's role isnt to dominate the centre of midfield.....its to run at defenders and create chances....1 out 2 is a lot more than what Skuse is doing. Elliott and Kilkenny are worthy starters....but we really need someone decent in with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatman Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 JCR's role isnt to dominate the centre of midfield.....its to run at defenders and create chances....1 out 2 is a lot more than what Skuse is doing. Elliott and Kilkenny are worthy starters....but we really need someone decent in with them. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm affraid we've made a rod for our own back. We can't boo him as it sounds like we're chanting his name and he'll play more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 As I've said before he doesn't score goals, make goals or stop goals. Poor passer, no leadership or desire to get stuck in. Gets clapped for every 3 yard backward pass and 70/30 tackle he wins while jogging about the pitch. Only loved because he's local. Well so were Matt Hewlett, Joe Burnell and Simon Clist and they have all proved to be shit and in time when a manager who is not part of the Johnson regime bombs Skuse out he'll be lucky to get a game for Bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Field Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 simple answer, drop skuse, and bring in cisse, nobody seems to rate him, yeah his passing isnt the best, but we have kilkenny to make all the passes, and when cisse came into the team last season, our form picked up, as it enabled marv to push on and get in to support the strikers, as cisse makes every tackle, and mops everything up infront of the back four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 simple answer, drop skuse, and bring in cisse, nobody seems to rate him, yeah his passing isnt the best, but we have kilkenny to make all the passes, and when cisse came into the team last season, our form picked up, as it enabled marv to push on and get in to support the strikers, as cisse makes every tackle, and mops everything up infront of the back four. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1975Legend Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 simple answer, drop skuse, and bring in cisse, nobody seems to rate him, yeah his passing isnt the best, but we have kilkenny to make all the passes, and when cisse came into the team last season, our form picked up, as it enabled marv to push on and get in to support the strikers, as cisse makes every tackle, and mops everything up infront of the back four. Agreed and I hate to be a stuck record but he got to BE DROPPED but I don't think he had the worse game tonight to be fair to him. Our best run last year cane when he got injured Cisse, Elliott & Johnson were in midfield. They are tried and tested and let's get then back in the team for god sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Agreed and I hate to be a stuck record but he got to BE DROPPED but I don't think he had the worse game tonight to be fair to him. Our best run last year cane when he got injured Cisse, Elliott & Johnson were in midfield. They are tried and tested and let's get then back in the team for god sake. What is it with you and Lee Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Agreed and I hate to be a stuck record but he got to BE DROPPED but I don't think he had the worse game tonight to be fair to him. Dropped?? Elliot will be back Saturday and they'll both be running about like headless chickens again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Tbh does anyone see anything in kilkenny thats diffrent to LJ?? im not a fan of LJ but i havnt seen kilkenny put a single tackle in yet, sumfin which leeds fans hav already said he doesnt do. Then theres the sideways/backwards LJ/gary owers/joe burnell type passing.....!?!?!?!! Not sure hes the creative spark keef thought he was. Is it time for a few young 'uns to be played i.e reid? I think we all appreciate a younger player on the pitch trying their hearts out rather than some of the moneygrabbing billy big bollox shambles we had out there tonight?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Skuse is an absolute model professional, in training, lifestyle, punctuality, support of the management staff, polite and quietly spoken, and a manager's dream in all things off the pitch. Problem is we don't see that side of him, only what he does in a competitive environment on the pitch. And at the moment that is just not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Obi Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Neither can I, mate. IMO it is our midfield, not our back four who are woefully inadequate. When Skuse was injured last season and Cisse had a good run we played better as a team. Skuse and JCR are simply not up to it. Skuse is pretty clueless on the ball, he looks good at times when he;s chasing the ball down and he runs around a lot but he just doesn;t read the game! JCR is no world beater.....but i'd av im over Woeful Woolford anyday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1975Legend Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 What is it with you and Lee Johnson? I'm just saying with him in the team last season with Cisse and eliott we had a good run that's all. Play Kilkenny there then after all he does EXACTLY the same lee Johnson did yet not a murmur from anyone funny that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economou Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm just saying with him in the team last season with Cisse and eliott we had a good run that's all. Play Kilkenny there then after all he does EXACTLY the same lee Johnson did yet not a murmur from anyone funny that!!! I don't think LJ passed backwards as far or as much as Kilkenny did tonight. Bizarre purchase on the face of it but still early days.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm just saying with him in the team last season with Cisse and eliott we had a good run that's all. Play Kilkenny there then after all he does EXACTLY the same lee Johnson did yet not a murmur from anyone funny that!!! Never seen Lee Johnson organise a team like Kilknenny did v Pompey ever. Never seen Lee challenge like Kilkenny for the disallowed goal v Pompey. Never seen Lee Johnson pass the ball like Kilkenny. I agree they are similar players but it's like saying David Bentley does exactly the same thing as David Beckham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 JCR's role isnt to dominate the centre of midfield.....its to run at defenders and create chances....1 out 2 is a lot more than what Skuse is doing. Elliott and Kilkenny are worthy starters....but we really need someone decent in with them. Really!!! Not on what we've seen so far. It's still early days, but so far I havn't seen anything from Kilkenny that is an improvement on Lee Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Really!!! Not on what we've seen so far. It's still early days, but so far I havn't seen anything from Kilkenny that is an improvement on Lee Johnson. You definately didnt go to the Pompey game did you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Obi Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 You definately didnt go to the Pompey game did you. Lets hope he plays more like he did at Pompey than he did tonight then! Cos on tonights showing he is hardly any improvement at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1975Legend Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 You definately didnt go to the Pompey game did you. I did and apart from that challenge on the keeper can you remember a pass kilkenny did that went forward that created a goal scoring opportunity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 simple answer, drop skuse, and bring in cisse, nobody seems to rate him, yeah his passing isnt the best, but we have kilkenny to make all the passes, and when cisse came into the team last season, our form picked up, as it enabled marv to push on and get in to support the strikers, as cisse makes every tackle, and mops everything up infront of the back four. Been saying the same since last season. Iv'e really wanted to give Millen the benefit of the doubt but i'm seriously starting to wonder if he has what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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