Ashton1 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Sounds to me like he wants the manager's job at AG ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 He's made no secret of his desire to get into management at the end of his career and it makes sense to begin his coaching career at the club where he will finish his playing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdc Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Oh god no and he cones over as an incredibly fella as well. Goalkeepers don't make good managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Anyone hear the Keith Millen interview smorning on Jed Pitman show (jack f.m)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Oh god no and he cones over as an incredibly fella as well. Goalkeepers don't make good managers. The chances of a keeper making a good manager are far fewer than outfield players because of numbers. Most clubs will have only 3 keepers compared to 25-30 outfield players , therefore the chances are reduced. Would not be surprised at all to see James go into management , and do a decent job , he must have plenty of contacts within the game and could probably get an experienced number 2 when his time does come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton1 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Oh god no and he cones over as an incredibly fella as well. Goalkeepers don't make good managers. Tell the fans at Southampton ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim S Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Sounds to me like he wants the manager's job at AG ?? I didnt see the show, was having a slight lie-in! What did he say then? About City & management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Oh god no and he cones over as an incredibly fella as well. well he is definitely not a girl is he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 I didnt see the show, was having a slight lie-in! What did he say then? About City & management? He was asked if he wanted to go into management and replied in the affirmative by saying words to the effect; he is doing his coaching badges and, seeing and observing other managers, would like to go into management to do it his way... one might construe that as a slight on some gaffers out there.. which is perfectly alright in the general context in which he explained it. Some fans might try and twist it or interpret it differently though and as per original poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim S Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 He was asked if he wanted to go into management and replied in the affirmative by saying words to the effect; he is doing his coaching badges and, seeing and observing other managers, would like to go into management to do it his way... one might construe that as a slight on some gaffers out there.. which is perfectly alright in the general context in which he explained it. Some fans might try and twist it or interpret it differently though and as per original poster. So in other words he pretty much said that he is doing all his badges, getting himself ready and when the time is right and the right opportunity presents itself he will step up to the plate.... where ever that may be! (Which is pretty much what he said in another interview Ive seen with him about management) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 So in other words he pretty much said that he is doing all his badges, getting himself ready and when the time is right and the right opportunity presents itself he will step up to the plate.... where ever that may be! (Which is pretty much what he said in another interview Ive seen with him about management) Nooo! Where's the conspiracy theory in there, Tim? Keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 So in other words he pretty much said that he is doing all his badges, getting himself ready and when the time is right and the right opportunity presents itself he will step up to the plate.... where ever that may be! (Which is pretty much what he said in another interview Ive seen with him about management) could be. but i think he wants to continue playing as long as he can. Then, when Millie goes off to manage Puxton Leaders, he will step into the breach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Oh god no and he cones over as an incredibly fella as well. Goalkeepers don't make good managers. What is 'an incredibly fella'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim S Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Here is something David James has also said about management a couple of years back.... so he has clearly been planning for a while! This was taken from 2007. People always want to know about managers. 'What was he like then?' they'll ask. 'He seemed a decent bloke...?' Things aren't always quite as they seem. Like any other group of bosses, they're a mixed bunch. I'm probably asked about them so often because I've been through so many. Fifteen, at the last count - and bar two they've all been English. At the beginning Graham Taylor and Dave Bassett were in charge at Watford, although I was on YTS then. Steve Harrison, Colin Lee and Steve Perryman followed when I was in the first team. Seven years at Liverpool brought a trio of memorable names: Graeme Souness, Roy Evans and Gerard Houllier. The Frenchman was my only dalliance with a foreign manager - inspiring but heart-breaking as I lost my place to Brad Friedel and left for Aston Villa. At Villa there was John Gregory, the only club to stick with one manager during my stay. Then came the turbulent times at West Ham where I had Glenn Roeder, twice, a flash of Trevor Brooking, twice, and a brief time with Alan Pardew. Manchester City brought Kevin Keegan and Stuart Pearce; and finally here I am at Pompey, with Harry. People always bang on about nationality, but there really hasn't been a single seriously successful English manager in the history of the Premier League. We seem compelled to bring English managers into the game on the strength of their playing career, but the most successful managers - Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho - were never great players. And none is English. Perhaps we need to rethink our recruitment policy. Foreign managers are definitely different - I can vouch for that due to my experience under Houllier. As a foreign manager he had to prove himself, and his unfamiliar methods, in what was a predominantly English dressing room. I liked Houllier because he had ethics and values that no other manager seemed bothered about. One of the most profound moments in my career was when I lost my place to Friedel. I couldn't get over it. Before each match I dreaded seeing Brad. I'd shake everyone else's hand in the team and wish them luck, but I avoided my replacement. Childish, I know. Houllier approached me and reasoned. He told me to shake Brad's hand, because regardless of anything else we were on the same team. It wasn't about me and Brad, it was about Liverpool. So I did it. And from that moment, even today, I always shake everyone's hand - whether it's Paul Robinson in the England set-up, or the reserve-team goalkeeper. Work on the team ethos for English managers tended to take place away from the field - having a drink, socialising. Not so for Houllier. I remember the shadow-play training exercise we did where the whole squad was brought on to the pitch. Tripling up positions, you'd end up with three goalkeepers in goal. And this was in the days before my reconciliation with Brad. I got really wound up because he kept getting in my way. But, there again, we were learning about team values. Don't get me wrong, there are some very good English managers - Harry is a great man-manager - but I think some of them suffer from the pressures of the English game. Foreign managers don't have that worry. They don't empathise with English fans, they don't worry about fielding English players, they don't worry about the England job. You have only to look at the recruitment process for the England post last year to see how hysterical domestic football can be. The papers were wild with speculation, the governing body failed to intervene and suddenly almost every English manager was in the frame. Managers were throwing their hats in the ring before they had even been asked for an interview. They lost focus and their own teams bombed during that period of uncertainty: Man City, Charlton, Bolton. Even Middlesbrough. 'England' is the pressure word. Brooking was one of the best managers I ever had. He didn't feel those pressures - or just coped with pressure better. We had him twice at West Ham. The first time was near the end of the season we were relegated. He took over before the away game against Man City with only a few days to prepare - we won 1-0. He then turned up on the following Monday with his tracksuit bottoms pulled up to his chest. We faced Chelsea on the Saturday. He walked round to the back of the goalnet and said: 'Jamo, Hasselbaink likes the ball to come over the top and then he likes to run on to it.' I thought: 'Bloody hell, it's Monday and we're talking about Saturday already - this is new territory.' Throughout the week he carried on like that, stopping to talk to people. We beat Chelsea 1-0. We wished we could have had Trevor permanently. His was a different view - he was analytical. Steve McClaren is another one for being organised - and he manages to keep players together. I remember in the 2002 World Cup, when I was only the number-three goalkeeper, he'd keep everyone feeling as though they were involved, and had a chance of coming on. When David Seaman caught that cross against Brazil and twisted his back, I got all excited. When he shouted 'Nigel get warmed up!' it was one of the most galling moments of my life. But the fact that I was uncertain proves that he'd succeeded in making me feel a part of it. That was top-drawer. In my view a good manager is methodical, organised, prepared; anything else and you're floating in mid-table, or up and down like a yo-yo. If you want consistency you have to work from a consistent foundation. Too many managers don't plan what they're doing from day to day. Players don't want an off-the-cuff regime, they want to know what their jobs are come Saturday. Otherwise, when you get your arses kicked, where do you go next? In the old days, a good training session was winning the five-a-side or doing a bit of shooting. Now, even young players criticise training. The bottom line is that if training's poor then performances are too. But just try telling a manager that. Most are not fond of feedback. Too many are obsessed with power and in trying to keep control spread themselves too thinly. I've seen managers shooting off overseas on a Friday to scout a player before a game on the Saturday, because they don't trust their chief scout to do it. That's ludicrous. The best managers have good relationships with their staff. And coping with success is just as important as coping with failure. Some managers succeed beyond their expectations and lose it. Or succeed on the basis of enthusiasm and momentum. Just like the player who has an amazing season and doesn't know how to reproduce it, plenty of managers seem able to get clubs promoted, have a great first season but end up in a relegation dogfight the next. West Ham and Man City are classic examples. Our achievements at Pompey this season will need to be bettered next time around too. Fortunately, we're building the foundations which will make that challenge possible. If I was to make it as a manager, one thing I'd insist on is communication between the manager and the players. Otherwise, how do you know you're on the same page? McClaren got hammered for calling a meeting with key England players after the defeat against Croatia. But feedback should not be seen as losing face or authority, it's about sharing a clear focus. I always say that if someone in authority can't answer a question, they shouldn't be in charge. Everyone likes to think they'd be different as a manager. I'd really like the chance to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 He did mention our Welsh players at City, who were impressed with Englands fluidity when they played them. Also that this is the first time he had been dropped since his Liverpool day's, and that it had kicked him up the behind and made him even more keen to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Oh god no and he cones over as an incredibly fella as well. Goalkeepers don't make good managers. Dino Zoff didnt do to bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 The chances of a keeper making a good manager are far fewer than outfield players because of numbers. Most clubs will have only 3 keepers compared to 25-30 outfield players , therefore the chances are reduced. Would not be surprised at all to see James go into management , and do a decent job , he must have plenty of contacts within the game and could probably get an experienced number 2 when his time does come. Also keepers tend to be able to play to their late 30s or early 40s, so have longer careers. Apart from Zoff and Adkins, Goethals at Marseille won the European cup and many domestic titles also. Bruce Arena did an amazing job for the USA team with a relatively poor group of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton1 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 He was asked if he wanted to go into management and replied in the affirmative by saying words to the effect; he is doing his coaching badges and, seeing and observing other managers, would like to go into management to do it his way... one might construe that as a slight on some gaffers out there.. which is perfectly alright in the general context in which he explained it. Some fans might try and twist it or interpret it differently though and as per original poster. The original poster (me) isn't trying to twist anything. I'm a DJ fan both on and off the pitch. I actually think, unlike many, that DJ has the experience and intelligence to give the manager role a good go. I was probably Putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5! Or may be wishful thinking. I'm sure he would not only attract quality coaches and players, but also have an abundance of contacts home and aboard. Food for thought I guess! I could go on with my conspiracy theory, but I'm too scared on this forum! I'm sure DJ turned down all those Premier League sides and money just to keep local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 The original poster (me) isn't trying to twist anything. I'm a DJ fan both on and off the pitch. I actually think, unlike many, that DJ has the experience and intelligence to give the manager role a good go. I was probably Putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5! Or may be wishful thinking. I'm sure he would not only attract quality coaches and players, but also have an abundance of contacts home and aboard. Food for thought I guess! I could go on with my conspiracy theory, but I'm too scared on this forum! I'm sure DJ turned down all those Premier League sides and money just to keep local. I did say twist OR interpret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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