Dolman_Stand Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 As someone who has been criticised and mocked on here for failure to take Cardiff up despite extortionate signings / wages / loans being thrown around across the bridge, why is Dave Jones now held in such high regard??? Only Billy Davies or Alan Curbishley will save this club from relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 a good track record.. got wolves promoted this level.. took cardiff to good heights even without splashing the cash.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 As someone who has been criticised and mocked on here for failure to take Cardiff up despite extortionate signings / wages / loans being thrown around across the bridge, why is Dave Jones now held in such high regard??? Only Billy Davies or Alan Curbishley will save this club from relegation Crystal ball? I'm not massively excited by the prospect of Dave Jones, I just happen to think that it will be him. And out of all the realistic candidates, I think he is one of the better ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofwells Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I think Dave Jones would do well steady us and avoid relegation. His record is pretty good where ever he has been. Even Cardiff have been above us for the last few years we would love to be in their league posistion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 As someone who has been criticised and mocked on here for failure to take Cardiff up despite extortionate signings / wages / loans being thrown around across the bridge, why is Dave Jones now held in such high regard??? Only Billy Davies or Alan Curbishley will save this club from relegation He would be a solid appointment at this level. He has attracted some good players at Cardiff and is very well respected in the game. I'd be amazed if we weren't looking at him or Davis. Cardiff managed to raise their profile somewhat under Jones, he's a name that has to be on any shortlist for any championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Crystal ball? Nothing more than personal opinion I'm not massively excited by the prospect of Dave Jones, I just happen to think that it will be him. And out of all the realistic candidates, I think he is one of the better ones. Not sure Jones would have the instant impact that we need, whereas Davies would come in here and similarly to Johnson ruffle enough feathers to eventually get a reaction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones won promotion once with Wolves 9 years ago. Nowt else despite having a vast wage bill at Cardiff. What's this good track record people speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Not sure Jones would have the instant impact that we need, whereas Davies would come in here and similarly to Johnson ruffle enough feathers to eventually get a reaction! Davies would be among my top choices for the reason you state. I won't have to work with him though. I can't see SL endorsing that one. Actually, I'd like Pearce to come here, but that won't happen either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones won promotion once with Wolves 9 years ago. Nowt else despite having a vast wage bill at Cardiff. What's this good track record people speak of? Exactly. And didn't he spend a lot at Wolves to get them promoted? He did a bad job not to Cardiff promoted. Can't see him doing well with limited resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWurzel Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 My post from another thread: I wouldn't call it an obsession. But the majority of us want someone already proven with plenty of experience at this level, who plays attacking football. One other personal want of mine is someone who comes across well in the media (i.e. can string two words together). We've always had a country bumpkin reputation and let's face it, neither GJ nor KM came across well when talking to the media which doesn't help. So for me: - Proven manager at Championship level - Known for encouraging attacking football - Intelligent That knocks most of the list off and leaves Jones as the prime candidate in my opinion. Let's not forget the fact that it'll probably aggravate Cardiff fans and lead to some fiesty derbies! Everyone here moaning that Cardiff have bottled playoffs etc. We're currently nowhere near being able to think about REACHING the playoffs, let alone bottling them! A lot of the blame also has to lie with the players. The bottom line is that under Jones, Cardiff ALWAYS looked a threat. We've been hit and miss for 3 seasons now, with the emphasis on the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon atyeo is my dad Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I think the club need a Dave jones but with a Billy jones fired up mentality! Someone with a bit of both? Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 My post from another thread: I wouldn't call it an obsession. But the majority of us want someone already proven with plenty of experience at this level, who plays attacking football. One other personal want of mine is someone who comes across well in the media (i.e. can string two words together). We've always had a country bumpkin reputation and let's face it, neither GJ nor KM came across well when talking to the media which doesn't help. So for me: - Proven manager at Championship level - Known for encouraging attacking football - Intelligent That knocks most of the list off and leaves Jones as the prime candidate in my opinion. Let's not forget the fact that it'll probably aggravate Cardiff fans and lead to some fiesty derbies! Everyone here moaning that Cardiff have bottled playoffs etc. We're currently nowhere near being able to think about REACHING the playoffs, let alone bottling them! A lot of the blame also has to lie with the players. The bottom line is that under Jones, Cardiff ALWAYS looked a threat. We've been hit and miss for 3 seasons now, with the emphasis on the latter. Really?? I think the club need a Dave jones but with a Billy jones fired up mentality! Someone with a bit of both? Hmmm Can't see how the West Brom left-back will help.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In.Millen.We.Trust Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones is an experienced proven manager at championship level, im sure a large number of fans would be delighted to see him come in as new City Manager, He may have failed to take Cardiff up but narrowly missing out on promotion against Blackpool at Wembley and then being beaten last season in the play off semi finals is still a huge achievement considering the amount of competition in this league.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Being Bristol City means we can't pick from the world's elite and for me Dave Jones, Billy Davies and similar others would be decent choices. Regardless of who gets it, I think it's more important to have some decent experience in the Championship behind them. The short term onus has to be on survival. Who ever gets it shouldn't get much more than an 18 month contract. We certainly don't want to stitch ourselves up with 3 years again. I don't really want to see a young, promising manager yet (ordinarily I would) as I don't think the circumstances are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 some failure to notice jones brought plenty of money into diff with the sales he made. i like uncle chester(pompeys name for him), billy davis i cant stand, please not him. anyone who can keep us up is good enough(part from davis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIDERARMY1986 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones is an experienced proven manager at championship level, im sure a large number of fans would be delighted to see him come in as new City Manager, He may have failed to take Cardiff up but narrowly missing out on promotion against Blackpool at Wembley and then being beaten last season in the play off semi finals is still a huge achievement considering the amount of competition in this league.. Yh i agree with you it is the one and only number one choice and the way I see it is he is number one in my eyes compeletly but I do have to admit when people started to say Dave jones to me i didn't rate him like you say i thought about it and i now like the idea of a half decent manger in charge and he does have the proven track record to prove it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yh i agree with you it is the one and only number one choice and the way I see it is he is number one in my eyes compeletly but I do have to admit when people started to say Dave jones to me i didn't rate him like you say i thought about it and i now like the idea of a half decent manger in charge and he does have the proven track record to prove it... And ................breath! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellRedPhil Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Massively overrated. Had the best squad in the League last year but managed to f ** k the playoffs up...again! He missed out on the playoffs in 2009 under incredible circumstances after the Deepdale rape and then losing 3-0 in the last game at Ninian. He has had an insane wage budget and some of the best players in the League. Even in the season we reached the Playoff Final he had a squad containing the likes of Ledley, Ramsey, Johnson, Fowler and Hasslebaink! He also happens to be a complete c ** t. Not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones is a good, solid, no frills appointment. You know what you'd get from him, a hard working, well-drilled side. Can't remember the last time someone said City were "hard working and well-drilled." I have a lot of mates who are Cardiff fans, from my time at uni in Wales. Come the end, the majority wanted him gone because they felt he'd gone stale, not because he was a bad manager. I could see him as a realistic candidate for pretty much any Championship job that came up, and he came very close to the Fulham job a year or so ago, He's a decent candidate for this post and will steady the ship, isn't that exactly what we need right now? I can see the board going for him, as he knows the division inside out, he's lived nearby and has a track record of staying loyal to clubs for a length of time, not someone who could leave us in the lurch ala Coppell or McClaren. For what it's worth I think we will draw a shortlist of six: McInnes, Jones, Davies (if he's not at Forest), Pearce (if he applies) Tisdale (if he applies) and O'Driscoll. Then we interview three, McInnes, Jones and Tisdle, before appointing Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 He spent a fortune at Cardiff on wages and signing on fees, which league are they in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Horsman Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Not for me! Another laidback Scouser with a thoughtful but hardly passionate and fiery persona, much like Coppell. Not the answer in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Billy Davis would certainly strike fear into the entire squad, the bloke is a nutter!! Perhaps some scottish grit it what's needed, don't know much about McInnes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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