Riaz Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Reading the Frank Clark interview today, Forest are no where near naming a manager. According to him they haven't even got a short list. MM I'd be amazed if that was true. Plus the BBC "understands" cotterill wil be appointed today..... which to me, it means its highly probable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 They were bottom when he took over, and established them again as a decent championship team. Thats proven at this level to me. I think you need to do a little more than that to be classed as proven. You could argue that Millen did the same for us last season but you wont catch many people here calling him proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I think you need to do a little more than that to be classed as proven. You could argue that Millen did the same for us last season but you wont catch many people here calling him proven Millen inherited a decent squad and made it worse. The only reason he "saved" us, was because he gave a half decent squad stability. Given time, all he did was turn us into relegation candidates. Robins took over a team and improved them. Never has he turned a team into relegation candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Expect Robins to be announced tomorrow then for BCFC That really would be depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Millen inherited a decent squad and made it worse. The only reason he "saved" us, was because he gave a half decent squad stability. Given time, all he did was turn us into relegation candidates. Robins took over a team and improved them. Never has he turned a team into relegation candidates. Robins played crap football and apparently has no personality. And that's from barnsely fans where he was a 'success'. Not what we need when we are bottom of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Barnsley fans put me off Mark Robins, majority say he's tatically clueless and has zero personality. Us appoint someone clueless at management and with little personality. Nah, would never happen.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Robins played crap football and apparently has no personality. And that's from barnsely fans where he was a 'success'. Not what we need when we are bottom of the league. no personality? well, every time I'ver heard him speak, he sounds like he knows what he is talking about.... And so what if he played "crap football" - he was only there 2 years with no money to spend.... had to do what was needed... He's not my number one choice, but I would be relieved, if he got it - considering the names being mentioned (McClaren, John Hughes, Bothroyd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Robins doesnt play attractive football, seemed to rely on short term Premier League loans, and fell out with the board and resigned when they wouldnt give him money to spend (which he wanted to spend on marlon bloody harewood!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 OMG You really must be desperate if he is the man, Hope your chairman has millions because Robins refuses to work on a Budget which is sh**. Thats the reason he left us because he wasnt given a lot of Money. He didnt believe he is good enough manager to work on a crap budget. I saw him 3 weeks since, I was sat next to him at Burton v Plymouth game. He is a top top bloke but Manager, no chance. Best of luk if you get him, but best you can hope for is around 16th place. Good Points: Nicest bloke you will ever meet Can get big players to the club (If he has Money) McShane, Harewood here Good at Loans, dont think we had a bad Loan under him Bad Points: No Plan B Needs Money Not a Motivator on the Touchline Robins took over a team and improved them. Never has he turned a team into relegation candidates. That may well be your opinion of him from afar. Personally, I think he falls more into Barnsley-Tyke's opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 That may well be your opinion of him from afar. Personally, I think he falls more into Barnsley-Tyke's opinion Well, results speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well, results speak for themselves. One of the candidates took Cardiff to Wembley three times. Once as an FA Cup Finalist as a Championship club.... Last season they weren't out of the play places all season. Quite like them results myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Robins took over a team and improved them. Never has he turned a team into relegation candidates. Yes, and credit to Robins for that 18th place finish But it's hardly much in comparison to all the other candidates who have actually WON something. To actually complete the task and win promotion over the 46 games is what separates the good managers from the also rans. KM did well last year, Tinnion got us into the top half, but GJ actually won something and history will say that he was a good appointment at the time and did well (for a while - but nothing lasts forever) . The other 2 have been dimissed as failures. So of the candidates McInnes - won promotion to SPL SOD - won promotions with Bournemouth & Donnie Jones - won promotion with Stockport to the Championship, won promotion to PL with Wolves Boothroyyd - won promotion to PL with Watford Robins - improved Barnsley to finish in 18th place. no promotions Please tell me why MR is even on the short list? CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Yes, and credit to Robins for that 18th place finish But it's hardly much in comparison to all the other candidates who have actually WON something. To actually complete the task and win promotion over the 46 games is what separates the good managers from the also rans. KM did well last year, Tinnion got us into the top half, but GJ actually won something and history will say that he was a good appointment at the time and did well (for a while - but nothing lasts forever) . The other 2 have been dimissed as failures. So of the candidates McInnes - won promotion to SPL SOD - won promotions with Bournemouth & Donnie Jones - won promotion with Stockport to the Championship, won promotion to PL with Wolves Boothroyyd - won promotion to PL with Watford Robins - improved Barnsley to finish in 18th place. no promotions Please tell me why MR is even on the short list? CR He would have won promotion had he stayed at rotherham and he was at barnsley.... what do you expect him to do with barnsley?? in 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 He would have won promotion had he stayed at rotherham and he was at barnsley.... what do you expect him to do with barnsley?? in 2 years? And Aidy Boothroyd was at Watford? And people laugh about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Robins played crap football and apparently has no personality. And that's from barnsely fans where he was a 'success'. Not what we need when we are bottom of the league. According to Barnsley Tyke, he was a really nice guy with loads of time for the fans, that contradicts your second point. As for the first point, he basically saved Barnsley - a club with much smaller budget than us - and established them in this league. They were bottom of the league too when he took over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 And Aidy Boothroyd was at Watford? And people laugh about him. Yes, yes, yes, this is all 'very well', but what do the ladies think? What a nice young gentleman Mark seems to be, sure to be popular with the wives, even if he used to model knitware in his teens. None of this means he won't be a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 According to Barnsley Tyke, he was a really nice guy with loads of time for the fans, that contradicts your second point. As for the first point, he basically saved Barnsley - a club with much smaller budget than us - and established them in this league. They were bottom of the league too when he took over there. He said he couldn't motivate. Sounds like Teflon to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 He said he couldn't motivate. Sounds like Teflon to me. Let's get this straight, Mr. Are you saying Keef could'nt motivate the current BCFC squad of professional football players?? Are you .......... 'quite sure' about that?? This is "crazy-talk". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Yes, I think you should. The rest of us can get on with supporting City. I only you knew how much I support this club pal Obviously I'll still support, I will just be disappointed, stop taken everything so seriously treacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornacix the Druid Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 With Robins (allegedly)waiting on the Forest job before turning his attention to BCFC makes us sound like "sloppy seconds" He may/may not be a good manager for us but I'd be disappointed in the board if they appoint someone who was not interested and enthusiastic about the position from the very beginning. In addition, we would be appointing a manager who was thought not the best choice by another club in the same situation and at the same level as us. And that's in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 With Robins (allegedly)waiting on the Forest job before turning his attention to BCFC makes us sound like "sloppy seconds" He may/may not be a good manager for us but I'd be disappointed in the board if they appoint someone who was not interested and enthusiastic about the position from the very beginning. In addition, we would be appointing a manager who was thought not the best choice by another club in the same situation and at the same level as us. And that's in my opinion. if your assumption is true I agree totally with what you say. if the board do give him the job given your scenario, then my god they either want him come what may or his interview must have been mind blowing. The board would surely this time put themselves up for major criticism and humiliation if he gets the job and fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 if your assumption is true I agree totally with what you say. if the board do give him the job given your scenario, then my god they either want him come what may or his interview must have been mind blowing. The board would surely this time put themselves up for major criticism and humiliation if he gets the job and fails. If it is true, and who are we to know. Then he should be taken out of the equation as he is not 100% behind the cause. Fair enough he wants to weigh up his options, but he should be removed from out list if what is being rumoured turns out to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 He would have won promotion had he stayed at rotherham and he was at barnsley.... what do you expect him to do with barnsley?? in 2 years? Maybe he would - maybe he wouldn't Maybe Keith would have turned it around But we're talking facts Robins is not a provan promotion winner. the others are. Robins might do well at City , but he's not yet proved he can win a promotion wheras all the others have. We all have our own views - Reading everything on the net , mine is that the final 2 are McInnes and SOD. with McInnes the favourite. Jones - probably too expensive & we're looking for a rising youg star - his big successes were several years ago. Robins - good potential and right age but won nothing yet , too much of a risk SOD - solid record in L1, good coach but his recent track record of results this season and his failure to do anything in the NPC will count against him McInnes - Good rep, promotion winner, competing well in SPL with minimal budget, good man manager, strong personal qualities, highly recommended & no one has a bad word to say about him. Lacks English FL management, but good playing career inc SPL and PL at WBA. On the rise and could take City along with him. Will the board be brave enough though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Maybe he would - maybe he wouldn't Maybe Keith would have turned it around But we're talking facts Robins is not a provan promotion winner. the others are. Robins might do well at City , but he's not yet proved he can win a promotion wheras all the others have. We all have our own views - Reading everything on the net , mine is that the final 2 are McInnes and SOD. with McInnes the favourite. Jones - probably too expensive & we're looking for a rising youg star - his big successes were several years ago. Robins - good potential and right age but won nothing yet , too much of a risk SOD - solid record in L1, good coach but his recent track record of results this season and his failure to do anything in the NPC will count against him McInnes - Good rep, promotion winner, competing well in SPL with minimal budget, good man manager, strong personal qualities, highly recommended & no one has a bad word to say about him. Lacks English FL management, but good playing career inc SPL and PL at WBA. On the rise and could take City along with him. Will the board be brave enough though? To be honest with you CodeRed - I'd be happy with any of those 4. McInnes would be my choice. But I just dont get why people are so against Robins. If we want someone to keep us up - out those 4, he'd be the one most likely to do it - because he has done it already with barnsley. It just annoys me how short-sighted people are, wanting a name that sounds good, but nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 If Robbins is waiting on Forest I'd be disgusted if we appointed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Maybe he would - maybe he wouldn't Maybe Keith would have turned it around But we're talking facts Robins is not a provan promotion winner. the others are. Robins might do well at City , but he's not yet proved he can win a promotion wheras all the others have. We all have our own views - Reading everything on the net , mine is that the final 2 are McInnes and SOD. with McInnes the favourite. Jones - probably too expensive & we're looking for a rising youg star - his big successes were several years ago. Robins - good potential and right age but won nothing yet , too much of a risk SOD - solid record in L1, good coach but his recent track record of results this season and his failure to do anything in the NPC will count against him McInnes - Good rep, promotion winner, competing well in SPL with minimal budget, good man manager, strong personal qualities, highly recommended & no one has a bad word to say about him. Lacks English FL management, but good playing career inc SPL and PL at WBA. On the rise and could take City along with him. Will the board be brave enough though? According to Colin Sexstone, finances won't come into the equation until City have decided on who they want to employ, so if Jones is the man that comes across best, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 According to Colin Sexstone, finances won't come into the equation until City have decided on who they want to employ, so if Jones is the man that comes across best, then so be it. CS today made it clear that during talks finance was mentioned..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 He would have won promotion had he stayed at rotherham and he was at barnsley.... what do you expect him to do with barnsley?? in 2 years? Interesting comment considering your patience with Keith Millen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Interesting comment considering your patience with Keith Millen. If millen could have delivered 18th this season, that would have been great. Wasnt going to happen. No signs of progress - only signs of us getting worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 If millen could have delivered 18th this season, that would have been great. Wasnt going to happen. No signs of progress - only signs of us getting worse. Are you having a laugh?/ no wonder u'd be happy with robins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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