Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 When he appointed Millen when Copout took a walk! He should have got a big name, from the amazing list of candidates we had during the recruitment process! I lay the blame for this embarressing decline squarely at his feet. Discuss!
Robin101 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 It's just...like...I dunno. I wish we were good.
Guest woody1 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 totally agree cheap option and now it looks like we will pay the price.gradual decline from first season up and to be honest we are where we deserve to be .well done mr lansdown
BCAGFC Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 With SL's record of appointing managers (1 good/decent out of 4 = 25%), I hope he leaves this decision to someone else. The whole club needs a clear out & a new bright/passionate/determined manager to give us all a lift. But you know what is going to happen................................................................... BCAGFC
stokes7 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 i think lansdown is losing interest if the stadium gets turned down he will cut all ties with city i reckon
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 ENTER MR ROBBINS........ P.s. Not literal
Mr Gow Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Yes Steve Lansdown has to take a lot of the blame, for appointing Millen ( most City fans thought it would end in tears) Also blame him for Steve Coppell leaving too
pdgifford64 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Yes Steve Lansdown has to take a lot of the blame, for appointing Millen ( most City fans thought it would end in tears) Also blame him for Steve Coppell leaving too I don`t blame him for Coppell leaving, i do blame him for appointing him in the first place. PDG
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 Yes Steve Lansdown has to take a lot of the blame, for appointing Millen ( most City fans thought it would end in tears) Also blame him for Steve Coppell leaving too Very true
Guest BristolCityFC1 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Lansdown defo to blame for our poor decline...if he appoints Robins and he doesnt turn it around...ha!
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 I don`t blame him for Coppell leaving, i do blame him for appointing him in the first place. PDG And we can probably blame him for appointing Robins! If he was at the game tonight I cant see us getting Mcinnes.
Donald Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 When he appointed Millen when Copout took a walk! He should have got a big name, from the amazing list of candidates we had during the recruitment process! I lay the blame for this embarressing decline squarely at his feet. Discuss! Their wasn't an amazing list of candidates though. That's why we approached someone who hadn't applied for the job
Sargent Pepper Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 When you say big name, how many letters do you think make a good manager?
chinapig Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Their wasn't an amazing list of candidates though. That's why we approached someone who hadn't applied for the job So Steve was lying at the time then? He has made some dreadful decisions but I have never thought he was anything but honest.
pdgifford64 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I`m pretty sure that amazing list of candidates was pretty much depleted by the time Coppout exited and while KM was probably not the best choice it was probably the right thing to do at the time. However, what i still continue to struggle with is the concept of negotiating a contract with a guy who`s managerial attendance record was hardly spotless, who walks from his last post seemingly mentally exhausted and totally disenchanted with football and yet having been appointed is then off on holiday without, as far as i know, having placed a foot on the trg ground or spent a minute with the squad. It might just be me, but i`d want that guy champing at the bit to get started. I was never excited by his appointment and to be perfectly honest the end came as no suprise either. PDG
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Whilst Steve Lansdown must carry the can for a poor appointment of Keith Millen. It is well worth us remember how up sh*t creek we really would be without his investment and his personal money thrown into the club. We would miss him immeasurably should he walk.
Kenn Loyal Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Lansdown has had his eye off the ball for at least the last two seasons. He kept GJ in the job for at least a season to long, then the Copout and Millen farce. All SL has had his mind on is a poxey new ground we wont ever need, or for that matter get, when those AV t-ats win the day. This club is in a very sorry state of decline.
TRL Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Whilst Steve Lansdown must carry the can for a poor appointment of Keith Millen. It is well worth us remember how up sh*t creek we really would be without his investment and his personal money thrown into the club. We would miss him immeasurably should he walk. Of course we would, but I am glad it is his money he is p1ssing up against the wall with he big list of bad choices. He got one decision right In terms of backing and hiring managers in his tenure.. Appointing Johnson, there are many examples of him making the wrong choice, he should seriously think about taking himself out of the loop when taking decisions on who to appoint. I wonder sometimes if he chooses people on the standards he sets from the business he worked in for years, rather from taking advice from those in football. I notice we do not have a single person on our board with a footballing background!!!! Surely this cannot be right for a football club!!!
Sargent Pepper Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 <br />Whilst Steve Lansdown must carry the can for a poor appointment of Keith Millen.<br /><br /><br />It is well worth us remember how up sh*t creek we really would be without his investment and his personal money thrown into the club.<br /><br />We would miss him immeasurably should he walk.<br /><br /><br /><br /> Spot on, unfortunately the small minded Neanderthals on here need someone to beat up. Sadly if SL did walk before he got his wish of making us self sufficient, these same people would drop the club like a stone as we fall through the divisions leaving the proper fans to pick up the pieces
cheshire_red Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Of course there have been mistakes, we all know that not least SL himself. I'm sure he has learnt from them and within the next few days will appoint a manager who will make a difference in the long term. It's not going to happen overnight but I am confident we will survive.
Red-Robbo Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 If only he hadn't have come in and invested millions! We could then not be worrying about relegation from the Championship as we'd still be in L1.
Guest Briefcase Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 love this club - sad to say we are doomed
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> Spot on, unfortunately the small minded Neanderthals on here need someone to beat up. Sadly if SL did walk before he got his wish of making us self sufficient, these same people would drop the club like a stone as we fall through the divisions leaving the proper fans to pick up the pieces i will support the club through thick and thin (mostly thin) and i appreciate the money sl has put into the club, but lets face it, the majority of it has been lost on poor appointments, wastimg money on poor players, which on turns gives us all poor football to watch. This is where we are today, on a downward spiral. The next appointment has to change this quickly.....will it with someone like Robbins? I hope we get the manager most want, but i dont think we will sadly. CTID
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 If only he hadn't have come in and invested millions! We could then not be worrying about relegation from the Championship as we'd still be in L1. dont worry, the way things are going we'll be there soon enough, and thats with his money my friend.
TRL Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Of course there have been mistakes, we all know that not least SL himself. I'm sure he has learnt from them and within the next few days will appoint a manager who will make a difference in the long term. It's not going to happen overnight but I am confident we will survive. I'm not so sure, he clearly doesn't learn his mistakes, and seems to make them time and time again. for instance Tinnion, then makes the same mistake with Millen. I am not sure how in a space of 4 months you can change your mind so much from "we go to the next level" with Coppell to replacing him with Millen with no other interviews. Now to some extent I can understand Coppell's signings were made while Millen was there. But is that really a good enough excuse to give Millen the Job. If we were looking to go to the next stage of our progress with Coppell, how the hell are you expected to do that with Millen 2 months later? If that was lansdown's feeling on the subject Coppell should never have been given the job and it should of been Millen's in the first place. He ballsed up majorly with Tinnion and did it again With Millen, that is not learning from your mistakes, that is just making the same mistakes. Lets be clear about this, the fault lands soley at lansdown's door.
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 I feel this is a defining moment for us and the next 24 hours are critical...
Monkeh Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I blame sl for pumping about 20 million in to balance the books I also blame him for funding 40 million out of his own pocket for our new ground
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 I blame sl for pumping about 20 million in to balance the books I also blame him for funding 40 million out of his own pocket for our new ground [/quote but where has it got us? We dont have the ground yet, and if we ever do, we'll never get to fill it, or get the big teams near it if we are struggling in league 1! He's had to put 20mill in as we have wasted it!
cheshire_red Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I'm not so sure, he clearly doesn't learn his mistakes, and seems to make them time and time again. for instance Tinnion, then makes the same mistake with Millen. I am not sure how in a space of 4 months you can change your mind so much from "we go to the next level" with Coppell to replacing him with Millen with no other interviews. Now to some extent I can understand Coppell's signings were made while Millen was there. But is that really a good enough excuse to give Millen the Job. If we were looking to go to the next stage of our progress with Coppell, how the hell are you expected to do that with Millen 2 months later? If that was lansdown's feeling on the subject Coppell should never have been given the job and it should of been Millen's in the first place. He ballsed up majorly with Tinnion and did it again With Millen, that is not learning from your mistakes, that is just making the same mistakes. Lets be clear about this, the fault lands soley at lansdown's door. What is the point in attempting to apportion blame? Agreed on Tinnion, SL had a gut feeling which proved to be wrong. I think Millen was different because he did get some excellent results when he was caretaker. The problem was Coppell and SL tried to smooth the resignation over with a quick appointment. It all points to McInnes. So the majority on here have their wish and therefore should get behind the man. Robins would have been a good appointment, as would SO'D considering what we could realistically have attracted.
Monkeh Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 No Belfast you don't get it he hasn't wasted it it's stopped us going into administration
kevinmabbuttshair Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Whilst Steve Lansdown must carry the can for a poor appointment of Keith Millen. It is well worth us remember how up sh*t creek we really would be without his investment and his personal money thrown into the club. We would miss him immeasurably should he walk. Hmmmm. You could argue he took us up shit creek
Kingswood Robin Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I blame sl for pumping about 20 million in to balance the books I also blame him for funding 40 million out of his own pocket for our new ground I don't think anyone is unhappy with SL in that respect, why would they be. However for all the good, there is no doubt that he has taken his eye off the ball with regard to the bread & butter business, the playing side. The day to day business must be looked after. It's no good lining up a fantastic business deal next year if you're going bust tomorrow.
TRL Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I blame sl for pumping about 20 million in to balance the books I also blame him for funding 40 million out of his own pocket for our new ground A fool and his money are soon parted. Make of that what you will.
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 No Belfast you don't get it he hasn't wasted it it's stopped us going into administration Even so, are you happy with the last 12-18 months?
Kingswood Robin Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Hmmmm. You could argue he took us up shit creek As they say in Burnley "Don't be Durtehh"
Frome Valley Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Whilst Steve Lansdown must carry the can for a poor appointment of Keith Millen. It is well worth us remember how up sh*t creek we really would be without his investment and his personal money thrown into the club. We would miss him immeasurably should he walk. Financially BCFC were stable when Steve Lansdown took over.
Monkeh Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Would you like to be in debt with the tax man at out door I'm league one? Because with out sl that's where we will be If you have a spare 200 million to invest feel free if not **** off
kevinmabbuttshair Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Would you like to be in debt with the tax man at out door I'm league one? Because with out sl that's where we will be If you have a spare 200 million to invest feel free if not **** off Blinded by the light
Red_Jim Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 When he appointed Millen when Copout took a walk! He should have got a big name, from the amazing list of candidates we had during the recruitment process! I lay the blame for this embarressing decline squarely at his feet. Discuss! You're probably right mate - but all I want now is for us to get out of this mess. It's tiring thinking back on all the mistakes made these past 3 years. I just hope the new man can turn it around as it looks pretty bleak right now.
Belfastcityfan Posted October 18, 2011 Author Posted October 18, 2011 Would you like to be in debt with the tax man at out door I'm league one? Because with out sl that's where we will be If you have a spare 200 million to invest feel free if not **** off Ooooooooohhh settle petal! No need for that mr keyboard warrior, we werent in diffs when sl took over!
Monkeh Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 We weren't In the championship we didn't have a new training ground we weren't planning a new ground Find some investment for the club as you Can do such a better job at running a business....... You don't bite the hand that feeds you, he walks we go out of business that simple
Cardy Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Look guys we are one good managerial appointment away from turning the corner and getting this club heading back towards successful times. Lets just hope Del Boy is a lucky manager who gets off to a good start and has the ability to re-install some much needed confidence through out the club. What he has done at St Johnstone is nothing short of amazing.
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Of course we would, but I am glad it is his money he is p1ssing up against the wall with he big list of bad choices. He got one decision right In terms of backing and hiring managers in his tenure.. Appointing Johnson, there are many examples of him making the wrong choice, he should seriously think about taking himself out of the loop when taking decisions on who to appoint. I wonder sometimes if he chooses people on the standards he sets from the business he worked in for years, rather from taking advice from those in football. I notice we do not have a single person on our board with a footballing background!!!! Surely this cannot be right for a football club!!! We do now have a guy who went to university with me. Though he isn't on the board - commercial manager or something like that. He played for our 1st team so there is some football knowledge at least......
the1stknowle Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 It's just...like...I dunno. I wish we were good. Best post I've ever read on here.
the1stknowle Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 but where has it got us? We dont have the ground yet, and if we ever do, we'll never get to fill it, or get the big teams near it if we are struggling in league 1! He's had to put 20mill in as we have wasted it! ???? It's got us into the championship after 8 years in the doldrums. And then established in the championship instead of going straight back down. Finishing top half in 3 of the 4 years. We're not going to get relegated. Everybody calm down. If we were getting humped then Id worry. We're not. Even at Blackpool when the scoreline looked like we were. We were just very competitive against the 5th placed team in the league away from home. And we lost by a terrible referring decision. A new manager will come in and turn it round and we'll still be in the championship next year Im sure. It's so easy to just say "everything is rubbish" because if you were wrong you are happy and no one cares what you said and if you are right then you can pretend to be a guru and tell everyone I told you so. Everything isn't rubbish, we have an amazing chairman who nearly saw us into the Premier League (that is just a fact), who has bankrolled our record signing, our debt mountain and our new stadium. We've made obvious progress under him and he is now trying to lay the foundations for our future - new revenue creating infrastructure and financial self-sufficiency. Which seems to me to be a really clever strategy with an emerging global trend toward financial fair play as a key issue in football. He's made mistakes in appointments. But he also appointed GJ which anyone who doesn't rewrite history should see as a success. People say he hasn't learned from the errors he's made. Rubbish. He acknowledged a weakness in this area and he removed himself from the grunt work of the process this time around. Dont believe all this "SL only wants Robins" nonsense. It's just total speculation that Im pretty sure started with a totally speculative thread on this forum. Even if we appoint Mark Robins tomorrow, the future is bright. But it seems pretty clear now we are appointing McInnes. We just need a few new ideas on the pitch and we'll be fine. Great chairman, good manager, not a terrible squad and a board I have renewed faith in after a sensible appointment process and decent communication during it. COYR.
fulham red Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I tend to agree. We weren't bad last night. Didn't look like we would score, but defended well and got done by a shocker from the ref. if anyone is to blame it is Coppell. Took the job, spent money & precious time over the summer, then walked out just as we needed to kick on. What else could Lansdown do? He had to make a quick decision to stabilise things at the time. Coppell was irresponsible to take the job on and then walk when he didn't like it. 1318997010' post=1453683']???? It's got us into the championship after 8 years in the doldrums. And then established in the championship instead of going straight back down. Finishing top half in 3 of the 4 years. We're not going to get relegated. Everybody calm down. If we were getting humped then Id worry. We're not. Even at Blackpool when the scoreline looked like we were. We were just very competitive against the 5th placed team in the league away from home. And we lost by a terrible referring decision. A new manager will come in and turn it round and we'll still be in the championship next year Im sure. It's so easy to just say "everything is rubbish" because if you were wrong you are happy and no one cares what you said and if you are right then you can pretend to be a guru and tell everyone I told you so. Everything isn't rubbish, we have an amazing chairman who nearly saw us into the Premier League (that is just a fact), who has bankrolled our record signing, our debt mountain and our new stadium. We've made obvious progress under him and he is now trying to lay the foundations for our future - new revenue creating infrastructure and financial self-sufficiency. Which seems to me to be a really clever strategy with an emerging global trend toward financial fair play as a key issue in football. He's made mistakes in appointments. But he also appointed GJ which anyone who doesn't rewrite history should see as a success. People say he hasn't learned from the errors he's made. Rubbish. He acknowledged a weakness in this area and he removed himself from the grunt work of the process this time around. Dont believe all this "SL only wants Robins" nonsense. It's just total speculation that Im pretty sure started with a totally speculative thread on this forum. Even if we appoint Mark Robins tomorrow, the future is bright. But it seems pretty clear now we are appointing McInnes. We just need a few new ideas on the pitch and we'll be fine. Great chairman, good manager, not a terrible squad and a board I have renewed faith in after a sensible appointment process and decent communication during it. COYR.
TRL Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I tend to agree. We weren't bad last night. Didn't look like we would score, but defended well and got done by a shocker from the ref. if anyone is to blame it is Coppell. Took the job, spent money & precious time over the summer, then walked out just as we needed to kick on. What else could Lansdown do? He had to make a quick decision to stabilise things at the time. Coppell was irresponsible to take the job on and then walk when he didn't like it. Got to ask yourself why he left!
the1stknowle Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Got to ask yourself why he left! Don't need to ask ourselves. SC and SL were both asked at the time and they both gave exactly the same answer. Coppell's heart wasnt in it. Any other version of why he left is typical forum revisionist history looking to scapegoat SL for something that patently wasnt his fault. Why would coppell possibly agree to release a statement to that effect if he in fact had a falling out with a board. With his history, he knew the damage it would do to his career? Why did he walk out of man city after 3 minutes? Why has he not taken a job since us if he was so keen on keeping managing? It's getting really frustrating to see all these little forum rumours that start as speculation that suddenly get adopted as fact and can be trotted out by anyone to make a point. Steve Lansdown wants Robins only. But at the same time he offered the job to Cotterill who turned it down. SL upset Coppell and thats the only reason he left. And he wants us to get relegated so he doesn't have to build the stadium. SL has lost interest and that's why he's not investing (despite his assertion that he wants us to move to self-sufficiency given at the end of last season) Louis Carey is evil and just wants to defy any manager that stands in his way. And Colin Sexstone promised us a manager with championship experience. All nonsense that is completely unsubstantiated yet all trotted out regularly on the forum these days as fact. Just because you heard it on the forum doesnt mean there is smoke without fire. The forum is not a reliable source. As the Evening Post is finding out.
TRL Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Don't need to ask ourselves. SC and SL were both asked at the time and they both gave exactly the same answer. Coppell's heart wasnt in it. Any other version of why he left is typical forum revisionist history looking to scapegoat SL for something that patently wasnt his fault. Why would coppell possibly agree to release a statement to that effect if he in fact had a falling out with a board. With his history, he knew the damage it would do to his career? Why did he walk out of man city after 3 minutes? Why has he not taken a job since us if he was so keen on keeping managing? It's getting really frustrating to see all these little forum rumours that start as speculation that suddenly get adopted as fact and can be trotted out by anyone to make a point. Steve Lansdown wants Robins only. But at the same time he offered the job to Cotterill who turned it down. SL upset Coppell and thats the only reason he left. And he wants us to get relegated so he doesn't have to build the stadium. SL has lost interest and that's why he's not investing (despite his assertion that he wants us to move to self-sufficiency given at the end of last season) Louis Carey is evil and just wants to defy any manager that stands in his way. And Colin Sexstone promised us a manager with championship experience. All nonsense that is completely unsubstantiated yet all trotted out regularly on the forum these days as fact. Just because you heard it on the forum doesnt mean there is smoke without fire. The forum is not a reliable source. As the Evening Post is finding out. Coppell already said a month ago he wants to get back into management, bu is not sure anyone would take him on after what happened at city. And we all know what goes on at a football club stays at a football club. Something makes you suddenly question your decison about joining a club
downendcity Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Don't need to ask ourselves. SC and SL were both asked at the time and they both gave exactly the same answer. Coppell's heart wasnt in it. Any other version of why he left is typical forum revisionist history looking to scapegoat SL for something that patently wasnt his fault. Why would coppell possibly agree to release a statement to that effect if he in fact had a falling out with a board. With his history, he knew the damage it would do to his career? Why did he walk out of man city after 3 minutes? Why has he not taken a job since us if he was so keen on keeping managing? It's getting really frustrating to see all these little forum rumours that start as speculation that suddenly get adopted as fact and can be trotted out by anyone to make a point. Steve Lansdown wants Robins only. But at the same time he offered the job to Cotterill who turned it down. SL upset Coppell and thats the only reason he left. And he wants us to get relegated so he doesn't have to build the stadium. SL has lost interest and that's why he's not investing (despite his assertion that he wants us to move to self-sufficiency given at the end of last season) Louis Carey is evil and just wants to defy any manager that stands in his way. And Colin Sexstone promised us a manager with championship experience. All nonsense that is completely unsubstantiated yet all trotted out regularly on the forum these days as fact. Just because you heard it on the forum doesnt mean there is smoke without fire. The forum is not a reliable source. As the Evening Post is finding out. This forum not reliable? Next you'll be expecting me to believe that Father Christmas doesn't exist.
Nogbad the Bad Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 What else could Lansdown do? He had to make a quick decision to stabilise things at the time. Coppell was irresponsible to take the job on and then walk when he didn't like it. No, he didn't. Appointing Keith Millen was a dreadful decision with predictably disastrous results. Act in haste, repent at leisure.
Belfastcityfan Posted October 19, 2011 Author Posted October 19, 2011 This forum not reliable? Next you'll be expecting me to believe that Father Christmas doesn't exist. If he does, ask him for some home wins!
Ron Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Whilst Steve Lansdown must carry the can for a poor appointment of Keith Millen. It is well worth us remember how up sh*t creek we really would be without his investment and his personal money thrown into the club. We would miss him immeasurably should he walk. Finally a balanced view. Great to see all this blame laying on the eve of an appointment of a new manager. We always believe.
Red Exile Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 No, he didn't. Appointing Keith Millen was a dreadful decision with predictably disastrous results. Act in haste, repent at leisure. I wholeheartedly agree. Delighted to see that lessons have been learned and that there has a been a proper process this time. To Ronnabe's point above I think it's time to move on from a simply dreadful past 12 months at the club. A new era beckons...and thank heavens for that. But the waste of the Millen decision shouldn't be forgotten or brushed under the carpet. Good supporters paid good money for a year of substandard dross.
CodeRed Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Going back to the L1 days SL comes in and makes a series of decisions and sets the policy and direction on and off the pitch. The net result of all these decisions and appointments (no need to repeat it all again - some good but more bad) is that we have huge debts , a wage bil 6 x what it was, and a squad containing a number of expensive players that neither we nor any other club wants or can afford. SL has had to loan the club millions to cover the loses made as a result of his decisions. Poor leadership at the top of any company leads to failure and this is where we are now - bottom of the league, big loses, big debts, poor staff, poor board members. CR
bearded_red Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 No, he didn't. Appointing Keith Millen was a dreadful decision with predictably disastrous results. Act in haste, repent at leisure. Spot on.
Guest DelliottBcfc21 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I really cant see how you can all say we are doomed...we got a good manager coming in, a massive shake up in backroom staff is looming too. Plus we still have january to strengthen, I really do thing we will be in the Championship next season. Its only October!!
Port Said Red Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> Spot on, unfortunately the small minded Neanderthals on here need someone to beat up. Sadly if SL did walk before he got his wish of making us self sufficient, these same people would drop the club like a stone as we fall through the divisions leaving the proper fans to pick up the pieces agreed there wouldn't be a peak to decline from if it wasn't for this man, it's amazing how easy people find it to spend other peoples money.
Fodbarmyarmy Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 I blame SL for putting his money where his heart is and keeping us afloat for last 10+ years........... Also for the "FACT" that despite all his money he could not secure a crystal ball or some other method of seeing the future......... . It's also all his fault how nimby's have delayed the new stadium ..........who the hell does he think he is! Jeez we get some on this forum
Nibor Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 SL must carry the can for bad decisions he's taken. He's got one successful appointment from four so far, and he favoured Pulis over Moyes back before he was chairman and majority shareholder. He's authorised a huge expenditure on players that have not in general provided value for money. He's also done very positive things like the new stadium plan, the training facilities and so on but his football judgement appears highly questionable. Those who say that without his money we wouldn't be here are unequivocally wrong. BCFC had a football income of over £8.5m in 09/10 - that's money come in directly and indirectly from fans via ticket sales, tv, sponsorship, merchandising. It's enough to run the football club; not enough to run it wastefully and recklessly as it is being done at present, but it's less than clubs like Blackpool and Swansea needed to win promotion from this level. We should be grateful for SL's support not blinded by it. There will be a day when he is no longer involved and when that day arrives we cannot have a £12m annual deficit. The only person that can actually affect that is the man himself.
bearded_red Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Well said Nibor. I would have thought that it would be impossible for anybody to disagree with anything you have written. Absolutely top post.
Red Exile Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 SL must carry the can for bad decisions he's taken. He's got one successful appointment from four so far, and he favoured Pulis over Moyes back before he was chairman and majority shareholder. He's authorised a huge expenditure on players that have not in general provided value for money. He's also done very positive things like the new stadium plan, the training facilities and so on but his football judgement appears highly questionable. Those who say that without his money we wouldn't be here are unequivocally wrong. BCFC had a football income of over £8.5m in 09/10 - that's money come in directly and indirectly from fans via ticket sales, tv, sponsorship, merchandising. It's enough to run the football club; not enough to run it wastefully and recklessly as it is being done at present, but it's less than clubs like Blackpool and Swansea needed to win promotion from this level. We should be grateful for SL's support not blinded by it. There will be a day when he is no longer involved and when that day arrives we cannot have a £12m annual deficit. The only person that can actually affect that is the man himself. Well said.
Guest timp2109 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Lansdown has made mistakes but he keeps the club afloat without him 1982 would look like a walk in the park. However I think we do need some football brains on the board. Someone who can work with the manager at board level to get the football structure right while somebody else takes care of the commercial structures. Wonder if Big Joe fancies a role? Not sure he would but there is a guy who could look at City and say if we seriously have Premier League ambitions this is what needs to be done to get the coaching, youth structure in place. He has worked at Spurs and Portsmouth in the PL and knows what needs to be done. I think McInnes will prove to be a good signing in the same vein as Johnson. I think he is the right Man at the right time. At this moment forget ambitions of the PL we need someone to get us out of the current mess. That is target number 1. We need to sort out the coaching at all levels and get those players organised. Almost certainly will need one or two players in on load to shake it up. Don't be surprised to see players being recalled from loans (where possible) so McInnes can suss them out and work out if they fit in with his plans. No one is safe, coaches or players.
kevinmabbuttshair Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 SL must carry the can for bad decisions he's taken. He's got one successful appointment from four so far, and he favoured Pulis over Moyes back before he was chairman and majority shareholder. He's authorised a huge expenditure on players that have not in general provided value for money. He's also done very positive things like the new stadium plan, the training facilities and so on but his football judgement appears highly questionable. Those who say that without his money we wouldn't be here are unequivocally wrong. BCFC had a football income of over £8.5m in 09/10 - that's money come in directly and indirectly from fans via ticket sales, tv, sponsorship, merchandising. It's enough to run the football club; not enough to run it wastefully and recklessly as it is being done at present, but it's less than clubs like Blackpool and Swansea needed to win promotion from this level. We should be grateful for SL's support not blinded by it. There will be a day when he is no longer involved and when that day arrives we cannot have a £12m annual deficit. The only person that can actually affect that is the man himself. Where the hell is talking that kind of sense going to get you?
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