Tom Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Albert is worth a lot of money, regardless of other players and their country's AA is on a long-term deal at AG and for him to be prized away its going to take a kings ransome and the clubs concerned know this. If a club is interested we are talking in terms of a Maynard type fee (if it was in the summer) and then it would be up to DM. If DM could create some cash and have a decent replacement such as Bolaise standing by (I'm not sure how good he is as we dont get to see much of him) then we could be prepared to deal... Whats the betting a doubble Maynard/Adomah comes in...Looking at the clubs involved I wouldnt rule it out...10m for them both anyone? I think I'd take that to be perfectly honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 What a surname is is not obvious to me. Always have to look it up.. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Chamberlain might be a kid, be he can do this: Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernjourno Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Interesting to see all the rumours linking Adomah with a move. I wonder if his performances at the African Nations Cup (if selected of course) might push up the price? Read my blog on this sibject here: http://edaarons.blogspot.com/2011/12/africa-awaits-adomahs-return.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Impressive. Impressive? No defenders, just the keeper to beat. If he can do that with one two or three players hitting him I'll say well done. That is bread and butter training and finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Oxlade-Chamberlain is a brilliant young player; I've seen him live for England U21 and he was streets ahead of any other player in terms of awareness, ability and vision. I love Albert but I would say AO-C is as good as Albert but 5 years younger and we've all seen the rate at which Adomah has improved playing regularly. Same thing will happen with the young lad. I suspect next years Euros will come too soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 He's 5 years younger 36 games for Southampton (most in division 3) 1 league game for Arsenal as a sub Handful of England u-18, u-19 and u21 games 12m for a kid - madness. thats Arsene Wenger for you. He dont do players over 25, and pays well over the odds for yet more youngsters...which is why they have won **** all in 6 seasons, crash and burn every season in February or March, and why all their best players leave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 He will play for England. He could well go to Euro 2012 as he's already shown this season for Arsenal he's well capable of putting Theo Walcott out of the side. Kids got a great future. Watched him score an hatrick for the U21 a few weeks back and he looked very good in the recent Carling Cup match against Man C, defiantly one for the future 12m or what ever it was will be a very good investment in the coming years imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 There is no such thing as a football manager style "value" Adomah is worth whatever we decide because he's under contract. If someone is able or willing to meet our valuation (which will be sky high) then he will be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 There is no such thing as a football manager style "value" Adomah is worth whatever we decide because he's under contract. If someone is able or willing to meet our valuation (which will be sky high) then he will be sold. Starts getting difficult if his head gets turned though. Someone comes in with a bid, we keep turning down bids, said player the stops performing because their head is elsewhere, slowly but surely the offers start getting less and less. Fine balancing act knowing when to sell and not cut your nose off to spite your face. The board have to know the personality of the player before trying to play hardball. Interesting times ahead, I can't remember the last time we had two highly saleable assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 thats Arsene Wenger for you. He dont do players over 25, and pays well over the odds for yet more youngsters...which is why they have won **** all in 6 seasons, crash and burn every season in February or March, and why all their best players leave... That's certainly been the case. However, I think this season may be different though, IF (and it's a massive IF) Van Persie stays fit. They are not under pressure to do anything other than finish fourth. With a bit of luck they can reach the latter stages of the Champions League - they won't meet any of the best sides (Barca, Real, Bayern, Inter, Chelsea) until the quarters at least - only Milan would make you doubt their progress. The keeper is actually very good and they are just starting to look a bit more solid at centre half - both Vermaelen and Mertersacker are decent enough and that Song is starting to look a very good player indeed. He now has a spine to the side. It's all about expectations. No one thinks they can or should challenge for the league which will work in their favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 There is no such thing as a football manager style "value" Adomah is worth whatever we decide because he's under contract. If someone is able or willing to meet our valuation (which will be sky high) then he will be sold. He's worth whatever we agree he's worth with a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSR Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Ridiculous, for a player that has no top level experience and played barely a season of Championship football! Ahh you mean just like Andy Cole then? Not so ridic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 yeah 10 million? Get your head out of the sand.. More like 20 million plus add ons.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifelong Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Ahh you mean just like Andy Cole then? Not so ridic Are you seriously putting Albert in the same league as Andy Cole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Totally agree utter madness, but doesn`t mean that 10million for Albert is realistic, half of that tops. but no one is saying we'll get 10 million. Its a figure to put off teams, so we can keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 but no one is saying we'll get 10 million. Its a figure to put off teams, so we can keep him Exactly. We don't want to sell him so why put a realistic valuation on him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Probably worth about £3m at the moment I reckon. If he plays a blinder until the end of the season I reckon we could see bids of £4m+ myself in the summer which might be hard for us to turn down. Be interesting for someone to list what top championship wingers have gone for when Prem clubs have swooped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Probably worth about £3m at the moment I reckon. If he plays a blinder until the end of the season I reckon we could see bids of £4m+ myself in the summer which might be hard for us to turn down. Be interesting for someone to list what top championship wingers have gone for when Prem clubs have swooped. Why would it be difficult to turn down? How much money would it cost to replace him? We certainly ain't gonna improve on him. Simple maths states that unless we get a ridiculous bid in the region of 6-8 million we don't benefit from the sale. He's under contract for 3 years so we have absolutely no need to sell him until that's close to expiry. He ain't going anywhere for the tiny fee'd you've quoted. £6.5 for Maynard and Beckford... Albert is a class above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Why would it be difficult to turn down? How much money would it cost to replace him? We certainly ain't gonna improve on him. Simple maths states that unless we get a ridiculous bid in the region of 6-8 million we don't benefit from the sale. He's under contract for 3 years so we have absolutely no need to sell him until that's close to expiry. £6.5 for Maynard and Beckford... Albert is a class above. Agreed. Albert is the true and only star at the club. £6-8m is nothing but a fair price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilC Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Something else that pisses me off, the lad was BORN in England, which makes him ENGLISH! this grandparent rubbish should of been scrapped a long time ago, why would you not want to play for your own country? even if were crap! its just bonkers. Going back a bit; I'm the first in a Scottish family to be born in England for generations but if I was a footballer I would certainly play for England. I've always supported England since I was a boy because I've always thought that was right being born here... but I guess everyone doesn't always necessarily think that way, especially if it affects your career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Why would it be difficult to turn down? How much money would it cost to replace him? We certainly ain't gonna improve on him. Simple maths states that unless we get a ridiculous bid in the region of 6-8 million we don't benefit from the sale. He's under contract for 3 years so we have absolutely no need to sell him until that's close to expiry. He ain't going anywhere for the tiny fee'd you've quoted. £6.5 for Maynard and Beckford... Albert is a class above. It more depends if he wants out and thinks he can play in the Prem. I don't think £4m is a tiny fee for a winger who is unproven at the top level. But I wouldn't sell him unless he wanted out. I wouldn't compare with Maynard or Beckford either as strikers normally go for more than strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewsham Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 anyone here we'd be interested in? http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-east-fife/hearts_players_threaten_to_leave_if_they_don_t_get_paid_1_2002499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 I hate the transfer window, all you get between know and the end of January is journalist making up stories, some are true but 90% are just made up. I say like GJ the transfer in jan. is no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Are you seriously putting Albert in the same league as Andy Cole? It doesn't matter what Cole went on to do after us, it's about their relative worth to us. And FanaticRed, who are you to question which nationality someone should feel? Most of us were presuambly born in Bristol, so a few miles the other way and we'd be Welsh! It's up to the individual, you wouldn't go down that route but it doesn't mean other shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Ahh you mean just like Andy Cole then? Not so ridic Andy Cole went for just over £1m, and went on to be the highest paid British transfer at the time at £9m so his value went up 9 times after some time scoring in the Premier League. Adomah will not go for £10m, I mean if he set the Premier League alight it would mean by the logic behind Cole he'd be worth £100m after a season or two of good Premier League football £3-5m is my guess at best. Let's face it, Adomah hasn't got much Championship experience and has no Premier League experience, he's playing for a club who are fighting relegation and has a 3 year contract meaning he can't be picked up easily which means most clubs won't even bother. My main concern is that we'd even consider selling Adomah when we could be losing Nicky already... I mean this club without Nicky and Adomah is a much weaker club and a much weaker starting 11, especially when they've scored over 50% of our goals between them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 That was about 15 years ago. Prices have changed. But it makes no difference - We aren't putting a value on him to sell him!!!! We are putting a value on him to keep him! As others have said, realistically he is worth 3-6 million but as we don't want to sell him and wouldn't be able to easily/cheaply replace him why the hell would we put a realistic price on him? If someone is stupid/rich enough to bid 6-10 million or whatever then yes we'd have to think again, but until then HANDS OFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernjourno Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 just wanted to point you in the direction of my blog about Albert: http://edaarons.blogspot.com/2011/12/africa-awaits-adomahs-return.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Regarding Albert chosing Ghana (mentioned above). Let's be honest, he was never going to get close to the England team. So his choice was more a pragmatic one. I don't know Lewis Holtby, though given he was born in Germany to a German mother (I'm presuming), can't really fault him chosing them. Isn't there another young German player with an English surname, who's oretty good? Can't think of him name, but guess it's a similar situation to Holby. Holtby's Dad is English, his mum German IIRC, and he's born and raised there Apparently Cappello tried to get him to play for England but he didn't want to know Am sure one of the Prem teams were interested in him a while back, he's meant to be the absolute beans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lita For Congo Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Holtby's Dad is English, his mum German IIRC, and he's born and raised there Apparently Cappello tried to get him to play for England but he didn't want to know Am sure one of the Prem teams were interested in him a while back, he's meant to be the absolute beans... His Dad is a scouser who was/is in the army and he was stationed in Germany. Apparently he's a massive Everton fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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