GrahamC Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Looks like he's staying with us, according to the BBC sport site; Derby County manager Nigel Clough hopes that both Stephen Bywater and Stephen Pearson will finalise permanent moves out of Pride Park in the coming weeks. Goalkeeper Bywater, 30, has made 11 appearances while on loan with League One side Sheffield Wednesday And midfielder Pearson, 29, has played five games at Bristol City. Clough told BBC Radio Derby: "Talks are ongoing with both clubs. Both clubs have an interest in keeping them and I'm sure there's a deal to be done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Hmmmm..............I'm still not convinced about Pearson. Not sure about offering him a contract in January. Luckily for him it won't be my decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 honestly, 23m of losses in the last 2 years seriously suggests it would be a bad, bad idea to sign a player of his age who has 0 resale value. i am all for the board supporting mcinnes, but here is one where they would surely (and hopefully) say no. just extend the loan, if derby cant find a buyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 honestly, 23m of losses in the last 2 years seriously suggests it would be a bad, bad idea to sign a player of his age who has 0 resale value. i am all for the board supporting mcinnes, but here is one where they would surely (and hopefully) say no. just extend the loan, if derby cant find a buyer It'll be for a nominal fee if any at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 It'll be for a nominal fee if any at all I think he is still one of Derby's "Premier league" earners so they will just be happy to get him off the wage bill. He would obviously have to take a significant pay cut to join us. Could turn out to be a good little deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Let's be honest Pearson is average but still better than Woolford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 honestly, 23m of losses in the last 2 years seriously suggests it would be a bad, bad idea to sign a player of his age who has 0 resale value. i am all for the board supporting mcinnes, but here is one where they would surely (and hopefully) say no. just extend the loan, if derby cant find a buyer Agree with that - no need to sign him on any more than a loan deal. Pearson seems ok but hasn't played many games to test his previous injury problems. The retained list needs to be as small as possible this summer to give McInnes something to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Sounds like we're after permanent signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonwheeler Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Let's be honest Pearson is average but still better than Woolford. Totally agree. Started well but match by match has gone backwards. Funnily enough there was a Derby fan who mentioned the name John Stead when we signed Pearson? Evidently just like Stead, whichever club Pearson has gone to he has started really well but then gets slowly average? If limited funds are available then I would hope we would not put to many of our precious eggs in the Pearson basket.................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 I expect we're merely asking about extending the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Let's be honest Pearson is average but still better than Woolford. Imo Woolford is a better player. But DM is the manager and we will se. Kilkenny is probably not in the Forest game. Pearson and Wolly would start I think. Hope they play well. COYR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dereks no1 Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Pearsons enjoying his experience and he will want to stay. Especially as he has a first team place under derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Totally agree. Started well but match by match has gone backwards. Funnily enough there was a Derby fan who mentioned the name John Stead when we signed Pearson? Evidently just like Stead, whichever club Pearson has gone to he has started really well but then gets slowly average? If limited funds are available then I would hope we would not put to many of our precious eggs in the Pearson basket.................................... Our worst performance under McInnes was against Derby, that was without Pearson available. You could quite easily say that since the Southampton game, which was what, Pearson's 3rd game, most of our team have steadily gone backwards couldn't you - Including Adomah and Maynard? It would make sense to have him in on loan until the end of the season. Whether Derby will be happy with that is another matter because I doubt we are paying all of his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Our worst performance under McInnes was against Derby, that was without Pearson available. You could quite easily say that since the Southampton game, which was what, Pearson's 3rd game, most of our team have steadily gone backwards couldn't you - Including Adomah and Maynard? It would make sense to have him in on loan until the end of the season. Whether Derby will be happy with that is another matter because I doubt we are paying all of his wages. Starting to believe in their own hype. As soon as the players came out in public spouting the usual rubbish about unbeaten runs, we are buzzing, feel like we can't be beat, then the alarm bells started ringing. They haven't played poorly but some of the urgency has gone and they have stopped pinging the ball around so quickly. I say don't believe your own hype, and get those energy levels and pace of passing back and forget all the usual press soundbites, just concentrate on your own game. Just a few little adjustments and we'll be okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 Still dubious about Pearson. I know he offers balance, he's got a good engine to get up and down the pitch etc. but I'm not sure what he offers as an individual footballer. I'd go for the extended loan, if anything, because in my book he hasn't done enough to prove himself so far, and I'd like to think Del has someone else in mind long term if he feels Woolford isn't the answer. Pearson would come under a lot more scrutiny from the fans if he was signed permanently and I'm not sure he'd remain a popular figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Nobody wants another Tony Dinning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Still dubious about Pearson. I know he offers balance, he's got a good engine to get up and down the pitch etc. but I'm not sure what he offers as an individual footballer. I'd go for the extended loan, if anything, because in my book he hasn't done enough to prove himself so far, and I'd like to think Del has someone else in mind long term if he feels Woolford isn't the answer. Pearson would come under a lot more scrutiny from the fans if he was signed permanently and I'm not sure he'd remain a popular figure. I'm in complete agreement Nogbad. Pearson hasn't convinced me yet either and a loan to end of the season would the best option imo. By then we'd have a clearer picture of what he can provide week in week out and maybe he'd deserve a contract then, maybe not...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Pearson has been average imo however we do seem to be a better side when he's in the team, maybe extend the loan until the end of the season and see if/how he progresses in the sie as I think his contract is up at the end of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm in complete agreement Nogbad. Pearson hasn't convinced me yet either and a loan to end of the season would the best option imo. By then we'd have a clearer picture of what he can provide week in week out and maybe he'd deserve a contract then, maybe not...... I doubt many would be against extending the loan, but Clough seemed to be intimating City wanted to sign him permanently next month. It's not as though his signature is being sought by a host of clubs so if we extend the loan the ball would be very much in Pearson's court to prove without doubt he would be an asset to City long term. We can take our time, assess how past injuries and increasing age are taking their toll on his effectiveness, and decide for or against at the end of the season. I'd agree it's far from certain he'd merit a permanent contract unless there's a fair bit still to come from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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