mightyreds89 Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I know it's all ifs buts and maybes but see below stats Millen took charge of first 12 league games we got 6pts. McInnes has now been in charge of 12 games and we have amassed a total of 24 pts (this inc the brum match) meaning since del took charge we had picked up 18 pts averaging 1.5pts per game! Had we picked up 18pts first 12 matches We would currently be sat in 6th place! Goes to show that maybe even though some performances have been poor we are not as far away from being a decent side in this league! If we continue to pick up points an an average of 1.5 a game we would end up on 57pts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Don't see the point in having a go on Millen. After an almost as poor start last season he took us to a more than safe midtable position. Let's move on. City til I die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted December 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 It was not a get at Millen thread but I can see how you may have thought that was purely stating maybe were not as far away from a decent squad as people think!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray's Mint Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Don't see the point in having a go on Millen. After an almost as poor start last season he took us to a more than safe midtable position. Let's move on. City til I die I wouldn't say he's having a go at millen, he's just comparing him with del over the same amount of games with pretty much the same squad... chill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 It was not a get at Millen thread but I can see how you may have thought that was purely stating maybe were not as far away from a decent squad as people think!!! Sorry mate got it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Sorry mate got it wrong read before you post please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mcinnes is in a different league to Millen. There is no comparison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Mcinnes is in a different league to Millen. There is no comparison... No he's not, both in charge of City the Championship.... There is a comparison. Both have/had trouble maintaining consistency. Good results followed by poor results all too frequently. We saw it under Millen and now we're seeing it under McInnes. The common denominator is of course pretty much the same quality limited squad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 No he's not, both in charge of City the Championship.... There is a comparison. Both have/had trouble maintaining consistency. Good results followed by poor results all too frequently. We saw it under Millen and now we're seeing it under McInnes. The common denominator is of course pretty much the same quality limited squad.... Millen had the funds to improve the "limited squad" - and only made us worse. Mcinnes has only made one loan signing (which you don't rate) and already we are seeing progress with this "limited squad" even if we are still inconsistent. The midfield players that played last night could not retain possession for more than a few seconds under millen. And yet last night mcinnes had these players keeping possession better than the best team in the league - in their own back yard. We would have been thrashed under millen. All I ever wanted from Millen was to see progress and we never did. We are seeing that under mcinnes. At our worst, we now look organised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 If we had been stuffed last night there would have been a lot of comparisons on here between the two. Unfair comparisons, because this is Millens unbalanced squad. I actually expected us to get thrashed - the fact we didn't, makes mcinnes a miracle worker compared to Millen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Unfair comparisons, because this is Millens unbalanced squad. I actually expected us to get thrashed - the fact we didn't, makes mcinnes a miracle worker compared to Millen. Did you say that about Millen after his team beat Swansea 0-1 last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 No he's not, both in charge of City the Championship.... There is a comparison. Both have/had trouble maintaining consistency. Good results followed by poor results all too frequently. We saw it under Millen and now we're seeing it under McInnes. The common denominator is of course pretty much the same quality limited squad.... Del sounded frustrated on 5 Live last night, if not actually angry, the tone of what he was saying being "How the hell can we win here and lose at Coventry?". A message he will get across to the players in no uncertain terms I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Robbo still trying to defend Millen I see !! As the OP has pointed out , 6 points from 12 games under KM with a squad of players he largely chose. 18 points from 12 for DMc with only one addition to that squad. And we seem to have learned to keep the ball now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 No he's not, both in charge of City the Championship.... There is a comparison. Both have/had trouble maintaining consistency. Good results followed by poor results all too frequently. We saw it under Millen and now we're seeing it under McInnes. The common denominator is of course pretty much the same quality limited squad.... The most important fact is one got 6 points from 12 games and the other 18 points from 12 games, with pretty much the same quality limited squad and one manager has not yet alienated and refused to play certain squad players thus limiting his already 'same quality limited squad'. One was taking us to hell in a hand cart and the other is giving us a fighting chance, one will one day manage at a higher level and the other will find his true level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Don't see the point in having a go on Millen. After an almost as poor start last season he took us to a more than safe midtable position. Let's move on. City til I die Never stopped you having a dig at certain former manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Did you say that about Millen after his team beat Swansea 0-1 last season? Still clutching at straws on Millens disastrous tenure i see.... In answer to opening poster......if we still had Millen we would be going down without a doubt, under Mcinnes we have hope, have seen the team rise from the bottom 3, attempt to play attractive football with more team spirit.....be interesting to see the new signings in jan if he has money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsobigfatdave Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Denman was better than Kauto with some cut in the ground but his tail hair was not as long. Bobby Charlton appeared to have more hair than brother Jack but this was an illusion caused by the length of his comb over. Adomah,sTodger is slightly larger Maynards which is why his balance is better. The Pies at Wigan in the 70,s were much better than they are now. Millen has two l's whereas Mcinnes has two n's in his name. Both share an i, e, and m. Apart from this post your original post is absolutely the most bloody ridiculous of 2011. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Just for accuracy, should say that Millen left after the Blackpool game (10 games: W1 D3 L6), Wigley lost the next 2 then Del came in and has had 12 games (W5 D3 L4). Not that this makes much difference to the argument/discussion. Even if we compare like with like, after 10 games the records were: KM W1 D3 L6 - 6points DM W4 D3 L3 - 15 points Quite a difference from the the same squad (bar one). No comparison between these two managers IMO other than the fact both have managed BCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 No comparison between these two managers IMO other than the fact both have managed BCFC. Agreed. DM is a proven manager with a track record of success. Time will tell whether he can replicate that success south of the border but he's not made a bad start. KM was a hasty managerial appointment whose tenure confirmed all the fears of his doubters. Here's to a well managed 2012. Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Move on, revel in the good times and look to the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Move on, revel in the good times and look to the future well said...and may the good times start here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Did you say that about Millen after his team beat Swansea 0-1 last season? Millen inherited a decent squad and that was a one off result. Mcinnes has inherited a poor squad and already picked up a decent amount of points Last night was not a one off because we beat them a month ago too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 The most important fact is one got 6 points from 12 games and the other 18 points from 12 games, with pretty much the same quality limited squad Its important not to overlook the 'new manager' phenomenon which happened when McInnes took over. The honeymoon period in other words. Its been over for a few games now and McInnes is now faced with the same problems that Millen had, inconsistency being the main one along with limited quality within the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 I thought this was going to be "Harry Hill" type of thread.................. Fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Its important not to overlook the 'new manager' phenomenon which happened when McInnes took over. The honeymoon period in other words. Its been over for a few games now and McInnes is now faced with the same problems that Millen had, inconsistency being the main one along with limited quality within the squad. He's faced with the problems Millen created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 He's faced with the problems Millen created. Agree there. It is early days but McInnes looks way above Millen for me. With Millen still in charge I think we would still be bottom with the fans angry etc. Now we have a fighting chance of survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 He's faced with the problems Millen created. That's debatable. Its fair to say that Millen didn't rectify the problems he inherited, namely a badly unbalanced squad and for that he deserves criticism. That's not the same as taking criticism for creating the problem which as I say, he inherited. Now that the new manager effect has worn off it will be interesting to see how much success McInnes has from here on in. One optimistic thing is the possibility of new blood during the January window. It would no surprise to see City go on a mini run of results over the next few games and then hit the wall again, just like last season in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 McInnes is far better than Millen. End of debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 McInnes is far better than Millen. End of debate. Thanks for that, now move on to another thread and add something else sweeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 That's debatable. Its fair to say that Millen didn't rectify the problems he inherited, namely a badly unbalanced squad and for that he deserves criticism. That's not the same as taking criticism for creating the problem which as I say, he inherited. Now that the new manager effect has worn off it will be interesting to see how much success McInnes has from here on in. One optimistic thing is the possibility of new blood during the January window. It would no surprise to see City go on a mini run of results over the next few games and then hit the wall again, just like last season in fact. and did nothing to put right, just bought players in positions that we were already more than ok in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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