TRL Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Not a moment to soon, sooner McGivern is displaced the better. I am just hoping he has recovered from his Hamstring injury. We kind of need him now. I would trust him every time over McGivern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Oh no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Loyal Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Oh God no!..your joking right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodle Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 PNE want to keep him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Oh God no!..your joking right? Over MgIvern, hell yes. He is probably the worst left back i have seen us have in the past 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hippo Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 How well has he played for PNE in his loan? Havent heard much about him from up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 How well has he played for PNE in his loan? Havent heard much about him from up there. I would suggest okay if they want him back. I haven't looked on theri forum to gauge opinion to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Loyal Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Over MgIvern, hell yes. He is probably the worst left back i have seen us have in the past 10 years RM is better than JM for me... JM is awful at this level...IMO I would have Foster at LB and Spence at RB however.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangers Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just empasises what a massive clearout this club needs come the summer....... Both RM and JM are not good enough for BCFC IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'd rather have macca in the McLovin, at least we'd have a good corner taker back and with propper protection infront of him now he doesn't have to do two players jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just proves how shit we are, McAllister is awful but compared to McGivern he's Cruyff, Pele, Messi & Maradonna rolled into one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think we could do with his experience and hopefully he'll have a point to prove... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 How well has he played for PNE in his loan? Havent heard much about him from up there. They like him I'm working in preston about 2 miles from deepdale. Problem we have is our fans like to make people hate figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Over MgIvern, hell yes. He is probably the worst left back i have seen us have in the past 10 years McAllister is the worst. BOTH are poor defenders. But McGivern is very decent with the ball at his feet - meaning, we keep possesion much, much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'd rather have macca in the McLovin, at least we'd have a good corner taker back and with propper protection infront of him now he doesn't have to do two players jobs Corners have been terrible for years - can I remind you it was mcallister taking most of them. He usually wastes our free kicks too - when he's playing. If macca gets back in the team - the chances of relegation will go up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 McAllister is the worst. BOTH are poor defenders. But McGivern is very decent with the ball at his feet - meaning, we keep possesion much, much more. I reckon you have a irrational dislike for McAllister that I have for Killa. he is 10 times the defender McGivern is. McGivern is bamby on Ice and a rabbit caught in the head lamps anytime anyone with a ounce of pace comes near him. Alt least McAllister has a general understaning of how to defend. In terms of passing McAllister was fine when McIndoe was here, since our left midfield went missing 2 years ago he has had no outlet, making him appear poor when the fact of the matter is there is no one showing for the ball other than the occasional push inside or cross field boot for the centre forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC-Tom Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Mcallister and Mcgivern are both shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Loyal Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 McAllister is the worst. BOTH are poor defenders. But McGivern is very decent with the ball at his feet - meaning, we keep possesion much, much more. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Corners have been terrible for years - can I remind you it was mcallister taking most of them. He usually wastes our free kicks too - when he's playing. If macca gets back in the team - the chances of relegation will go up! the only time we've scored from coners has been when macca's use to take them thats my point he could float or whip a ball in, he's a better defender then mclovin but mclovin is better with the ball at his feet, They both are shocking and I agree but I'd rather have macca's experence and corn take then the hefferlump McGiven, It goes to show how poor we are when we're discussing this doesn't it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I reckon you have a irrational dislike for McAllister that I have for Killa. he is 10 times the defender McGivern is. McGivern is bamby on Ice and a rabbit caught in the head lamps anytime anyone with a ounce of pace comes near him. Alt least McAllister has a general understaning of how to defend. In terms of passing McAllister was fine when McIndoe was here, since our left midfield went missing 2 years ago he has had no outlet, making him appear poor when the fact of the matter is there is no one showing for the ball other than the occasional push inside or cross field boot for the centre forward Have you forgotten how many times mcallister got ripped to pieces last season?? That excuse about macca being exposed - has only ever been reeled out for mcallister, but no other full back. If you watch macca, you will see, he does not even look for a pass - he does not even engage his brain.... its just wooosh and hope. Mcgivern is cool and calm with the ball at his feet - and usually finds a red shirt..... even though "he has'nt got a left winger helping him" Why does McGivern not need the excuse of "having no protection" ? because its bollox. McGivern may be poor defensively, but at least he can get better with age. Macca will only get worse with age. Though to be honest we need a new left back of two, I'm sure you'll agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 the only time we've scored from coners has been when macca's use to take them thats my point he could float or whip a ball in, he's a better defender then mclovin but mclovin is better with the ball at his feet, They both are shocking and I agree but I'd rather have macca's experence and corn take then the hefferlump McGiven, It goes to show how poor we are when we're discussing this doesn't it, We scored one fluke - I cant remember any more.... Experience isnt helpful when we cant keep the ball for more than a few seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 We scored one fluke - I cant remember any more.... Experience isnt helpful when we cant keep the ball for more than a few seconds I'm going to play my high horse card already and I really wanted to save that one, as I said Both are shocking and I'd rather have tanga at Left back but we are so short at the back its not going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Behind Albert, McAllister registered the most assists of anyone in the side last season. Looked stronger under KM than he had done for a number of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Why do people say I hate macca? I dont, why would I? I just think he has become a very very poor left back - being the only left back at the club did not help - and that was never his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Have you forgotten how many times mcallister got ripped to pieces last season?? That excuse about macca being exposed - has only ever been reeled out for mcallister, but no other full back. If you watch macca, you will see, he does not even look for a pass - he does not even engage his brain.... its just wooosh and hope. Mcgivern is cool and calm with the ball at his feet - and usually finds a red shirt..... even though "he has'nt got a left winger helping him" Why does McGivern not need the excuse of "having no protection" ? because its bollox. McGivern may be poor defensively, but at least he can get better with age. Macca will only get worse with age. Though to be honest we need a new left back of two, I'm sure you'll agree. Pearson has offered some sort of know how and protection. Granted bolasie has offered bugger all. Macca will only get worse, I can't see Mcgivern ever being a left back. Damn right, we need two new left backs. Foster should be utilised there for the time being, injuries willing. But you need natural left footed left back there who can defend and has the engine and legs to overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Behind Albert, McAllister registered the most assists of anyone in the side last season. I should think so, with the twelve million aimless punts + all the set pieces he took. The law of averages tells you that a % percentage of the aimless punts will go in the right areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I should think so, with the twelve million aimless punts + all the set pieces he took. The law of averages tells you that a % percentage of the aimless punts will go in the right areas. I would say we are missing his aimless punts, judging by our goals scored column Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I should think so, with the twelve million aimless punts + all the set pieces he took. The law of averages tells you that a % percentage of the aimless punts will go in the right areas. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe we've had any assists from set-pieces all season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe we've had any assists from set-pieces all season? Doncaster at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider Queen Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'd personally liked to see Derek give Macca a go, if it doesnt work so be it. He can't be ANY worse than McGiven who seems to be going backwards, I'm sure he was better tham recent displays when he first joined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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