old_eastender Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I thought at the time of Maynards move I read that we got extra from the deal if WHU gained promotion, anybody else recollect that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Someone else said , only if they stay up (presumably for the first season ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilli74 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Lets just hope there isn't an appearance and performance clause in that contract ... The first thing West ham will do is buy 1-2 recognised, named, top strikers !! Maynard's already bottom pick of the current crop so his career in the prem could be over before it starts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 He wont play much in the Prem, that is a defo. Teach the greedy sod for leaving us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie1919 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 He will probably play a few times off the bench then loaned out in january to a high placed championship team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Your son's Bristolian! Will be sold come January in my opinion, Sam Baldock no longer getting a sniff in the squad. I expect Maynard's WHAM career to go same way. We all know what he is like when he starts sulking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 He will probably play a few times off the bench then loaned out in january to a high placed championship team. ^this^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectored Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 He will probably play a few times off the bench then loaned out in january to a high placed championship team. Back to Bristol CIty then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie1919 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Back to Bristol CIty then? No, we will be ten points clear by then and won't need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhyde Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 He wont play much in the Prem, that is a defo. Teach the greedy sod for leaving us You don't have to work as much and you get more money. Tough lesson. If you believe it's all about greed, surely people believe he won't care. I wouldn't mind us having a look at Sam Baldock, he'll be playing less than Maynard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 In response to the OP, David Sullivan said in a radio interview at the time of the signing that we would be due a fee (somewhere in the region of 400K) if West Ham stay up after promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 We will recieve some money because west ham went up, the parachute payment they would have recieved gets split amongst the football league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 He wont play much in the Prem, that is a defo. Teach the greedy sod for leaving us Interesting opinion. You may regard it as a 'defo', but some would disagree with you. I think he'll get more opportunities in the Premier League than he has had in the Championship, and that he will be a success. He may even be challenging for England honours by the time of the next world cup. Just my opinion though, and certainly not a 'defo'. As for him being a greedy sod, please explain in what way Maynard differs from every other footballer in this country? Is there a single one who would not take the opportunity of a) more money and b) playing at a higher level? Good luck to the bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789000 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Interesting opinion. You may regard it as a 'defo', but some would disagree with you. I think he'll get more opportunities in the Premier League than he has had in the Championship, and that he will be a success. He may even be challenging for England honours by the time of the next world cup. Just my opinion though, and certainly not a 'defo'. As for him being a greedy sod, please explain in what way Maynard differs from every other footballer in this country? Is there a single one who would not take the opportunity of a) more money and b) playing at a higher level? Good luck to the bloke. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Interesting opinion. You may regard it as a 'defo', but some would disagree with you. I think he'll get more opportunities in the Premier League than he has had in the Championship, and that he will be a success. He may even be challenging for England honours by the time of the next world cup. Just my opinion though, and certainly not a 'defo'. As for him being a greedy sod, please explain in what way Maynard differs from every other footballer in this country? Is there a single one who would not take the opportunity of a) more money and b) playing at a higher level? Good luck to the bloke. Respect to your opinion, but just wondered what you were basing this opinion on? It's already been discussed to death on here, but many people have already pointed out a number of weaknesses in his game. As he wasn't even an automatic first choice in West Ham's championship squad, his chances of shining when he's up against Premier class defences are sure to be even less likely. He had one admittedly great season with us, but I think his game was too on-dimensional, so he got found out and became largely ineffective. Next season will provide the answer I Guess, but I really don't think he's got anywhere near enough ability or physical presence to make a mark in the Prem. As for being a greedy sod, he definitely IS. If he'd signed a new contract and then a big club had come in for him, then I'd have said good luck to him. The way he strung us along was inexcusable and definitely driven by greed. That's exactly why he got the well deserved reception he did at the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twaters Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Interesting opinion. You may regard it as a 'defo', but some would disagree with you. I think he'll get more opportunities in the Premier League than he has had in the Championship, and that he will be a success. He may even be challenging for England honours by the time of the next world cup. Just my opinion though, and certainly not a 'defo'. As for him being a greedy sod, please explain in what way Maynard differs from every other footballer in this country? Is there a single one who would not take the opportunity of a) more money and b) playing at a higher level? Good luck to the bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Good luck to him. Think he is more of a Chopra type player who won't be good enough in the Prem but will always weigh in with 15-20 in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Respect to your opinion, but just wondered what you were basing this opinion on? It's already been discussed to death on here, but many people have already pointed out a number of weaknesses in his game. As he wasn't even an automatic first choice in West Ham's championship squad, his chances of shining when he's up against Premier class defences are sure to be even less likely. He had one admittedly great season with us, but I think his game was too on-dimensional, so he got found out and became largely ineffective. Next season will provide the answer I Guess, but I really don't think he's got anywhere near enough ability or physical presence to make a mark in the Prem. As for being a greedy sod, he definitely IS. If he'd signed a new contract and then a big club had come in for him, then I'd have said good luck to him. The way he strung us along was inexcusable and definitely driven by greed. That's exactly why he got the well deserved reception he did at the end of last season. Absolutely correct. It's a short career and he's ambitious but we have provided the platform for him to showcase his undoubted talent, stood by him when he was injured. All he had to do was sign a contract, no one would have stood in his way and if Wham really wanted him they would have paid come what may, but sadly for him it looks like he was only ever going to be a bit of insurance if the Vaz Te signing went t1ts up. He looked like the proverbial spare ***** at the wedding yesterday. He has a lot to learn. If you treat people with a callous disregard it will come back and bite you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Respect to your opinion, but just wondered what you were basing this opinion on? It's already been discussed to death on here, but many people have already pointed out a number of weaknesses in his game. As he wasn't even an automatic first choice in West Ham's championship squad, his chances of shining when he's up against Premier class defences are sure to be even less likely. He had one admittedly great season with us, but I think his game was too on-dimensional, so he got found out and became largely ineffective. Next season will provide the answer I Guess, but I really don't think he's got anywhere near enough ability or physical presence to make a mark in the Prem. As for being a greedy sod, he definitely IS. If he'd signed a new contract and then a big club had come in for him, then I'd have said good luck to him. The way he strung us along was inexcusable and definitely driven by greed. That's exactly why he got the well deserved reception he did at the end of last season. Absolutely correct. It's a short career and he's ambitious but we have provided the platform for him to showcase his undoubted talent, stood by him when he was injured. All he had to do was sign a contract, no one would have stood in his way and if Wham really wanted him they would have paid come what may, but sadly for him it looks like he was only ever going to be a bit of insurance if the Vaz Te signing went t1ts up. He looked like the proverbial spare ***** at the wedding yesterday. He has a lot to learn. If you treat people with a callous disregard it will come back and bite you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 can we leave this alone now!maynard has left us we need to get over it ,i know i have! we dont have this sort of debate about other players that have left us,nicky is a former city player thanks for what he did lets now look to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrenadaRed Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 We get nothing from West Ham for promotion, but receive some money (250k from memory) if they stay up for one season. They definitely have to stay for one season for us to get anything, based on a long interview a read with their chairman/owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Good luck to him. Think he is more of a Chopra type player who won't be good enough in the Prem but will always weigh in with 15-20 in this league. ... or, is it a fact that he has only managed that ONCE at NPC level...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 ... or, is it a fact that he has only managed that ONCE at NPC level...?! Although that is a fact, I'm basing that on him playing most of the time for a team that isn't total shit like we were. Also that is based on him not getting injured as well (which could easily happen again I think). He did score 45 for us off 111 league starts which shows his scoring record would be about 18 or 19 goals a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 can we leave this alone now!maynard has left us we need to get over it ,i know i have! we dont have this sort of debate about other players that have left us,nicky is a former city player thanks for what he did lets now look to the future. With respect, don't like, don't read. no-one forces you to read a thread and there was a very valid question asked by the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backpage Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 The deal for Maynard is City receive a cash bonus if: (a) West Ham get promoted this season, which they now have, and stay up next season (whether or not Maynard is involved) (b) If they did not get promotion this season, but did get promotion to the Premier next season. The bottom line is, City have to hope West Ham stay up to pick up a little bonus - probably around £250,000. From what has happened this season, Big Sam does not appear to rate him highly, and the word in London is that Maynard is disillusioned. My guess is he will be on the bench for the start of the season and then loaned out at Christmas. But you still cannot blame the player for wanting to take his chance and getting a big wage rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 The deal for Maynard is City receive a cash bonus if: (a) West Ham get promoted this season, which they now have, and stay up next season (whether or not Maynard is involved) (b) If they did not get promotion this season, but did get promotion to the Premier next season. The bottom line is, City have to hope West Ham stay up to pick up a little bonus - probably around £250,000. From what has happened this season, Big Sam does not appear to rate him highly, and the word in London is that Maynard is disillusioned. My guess is he will be on the bench for the start of the season and then loaned out at Christmas. But you still cannot blame the player for wanting to take his chance and getting a big wage rise. Why the **** did he sign him then?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Any body else think Maynard will be a better player next season? When he came to us he was poor in his first season but the n the goals flowed.. I know he's got to make another step up but maybe it's just about working out how the team play.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Although that is a fact, I'm basing that on him playing most of the time for a team that isn't total shit like we were. Also that is based on him not getting injured as well (which could easily happen again I think). He did score 45 for us off 111 league starts which shows his scoring record would be about 18 or 19 goals a season. ...Or, based on his stats from his time at a club that are not "total shit like we were" his return of 2 league goals in 14 appearances, starts or otherwise, would equate to less that 7 goals over the course of a season. Some way short of the "15 - 20 he will always get in this league" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 ...Or, based on his stats from his time at a club that are not "total shit like we were" his return of 2 league goals in 14 appearances, starts or otherwise, would equate to less that 7 goals over the course of a season. Some way short of the "15 - 20 he will always get in this league" Every striker goes through a lean spell - you could point to any decent striker who will have had a barren spell. The point I was making is his record at City was one that means if he played full seasons he would get about 18 goals. That excludes getting injured etc which obviously happens a lot to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Every striker goes through a lean spell - you could point to any decent striker who will have had a barren spell. The point I was making is his record at City was one that means if he played full seasons he would get about 18 goals. That excludes getting injured etc which obviously happens a lot to him. Yes, I understand that and I'm not trying to be arguementative for the sake of it. You stated that he would scorer 15-20 goals every season at NPC level, yet only once has he achieved this. Every other season, for whatever reason, he has not done or really got anywhere near - therefore to class him as a banker to get 15-20 goals a season is simply incorrect. Yes, I agree that he is a good player who will score goals and if he stayed injury free for a season then he probably would achieve that target, but would you put a hefty bet, right now, on him doing it in his next season at this level, having only done it once before (which also included a large amount of wonder goals)...? I'm not sure if I would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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