bcfcbs20 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 so you're implying that blatter, a swiss, somehow favours bayern munich? despite the fact that proposals to end penalty shootouts were made as early as euro 1996, 18 years before "his" team lost a penalty shoot...? also exploring alternatives certainly isn't "going off on one" - penalties do not ensure that the better team wins, sadly. there has to be a better solution and it's only right to discuss it. but of course because he's "johnny foreigner" he must be a power-grabbing, anti-english hate mongeror. So your saying Sepp isn't corupt, he's as bent as a 9 bob note. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6861161/corruption-murder-beautiful-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Adamo Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 so you're implying that blatter, a swiss, somehow favours bayern munich? despite the fact that proposals to end penalty shootouts were made as early as euro 1996, 18 years before "his" team lost a penalty shoot...? also exploring alternatives certainly isn't "going off on one" - penalties do not ensure that the better team wins, sadly. there has to be a better solution and it's only right to discuss it. but of course because he's "johnny foreigner" he must be a power-grabbing, anti-english hate mongeror. If it's all about the better team winning why not have judges like in boxing?? The best team doesn't always score the most goals in 90 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportingmad0209 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 The bloke is a complete **** Agreed... But... What about removing a player every 5 mins during extra time. Therefore finishing the 30 mins with only 5 players on the pitch (if you start extra time with 10). Then Pens with the 5 left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 How many penalty shoot outs have England lost? The moment a German team loses (to an English team too) there is an investigation as to how the rule could be changed. Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Herr Beckenbauer has been having a word in Herr Blatters' shelllike after their beloved Bayern Munchen lost out to Chelski. Didn;t here him moaning when they beat Real Madrid in the semi final or at any time Germany win a shootout. T$$$$er. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Agreed... But... What about removing a player every 5 mins during extra time. Therefore finishing the 30 mins with only 5 players on the pitch (if you start extra time with 10). Then Pens with the 5 left! this is the idea that would almost guarantee a goal. 6 a-side on a full size pitch? Someone is bound to score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the Frog Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I used to like golden goal - makes the bum a bit squeakier though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 staring contest between both managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Agreed... But... What about removing a player every 5 mins during extra time. Therefore finishing the 30 mins with only 5 players on the pitch (if you start extra time with 10). Then Pens with the 5 left! This is the idea that has been suggested in the past, and as we're led to believe, the preferred option of Blatter, and some other FIFA members. I think the idea is to play something like 20 minutes, then reduce to 8 v 8, and further and further if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herman Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 So your saying Sepp isn't corupt, he's as bent as a 9 bob note. http://www.grantland...-beautiful-game oh no doubt the guy is a prize-grade ****, but i think it's unfair to suggest the timing of this (which is more likely to do with the euros than the CL final) has anything to do with fc bayern germans love penalties because they almost always win. no one in germany would be in favour of changing that! i'd be in favour of something more skill based, admittedly its hard to come up with anything. alternately you base it on stats - the team with the most shots on target during the 90 wins, then shots off target, then corners etc. that would hopefully prevent the kind of anti-football chelsea played to get to the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Wurzel II Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 11v11 multiplayer game of Fifa 12 hooked up to big screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 How about both teams have to drop 5 players and extra time is played 6 aside after each 15 mins both teams lose a player until someone scores would be interesting if one of the teams had a player sent off so it rewards fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Or simply share the prize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Or simply share the prize How do you do that in a semi final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 i'd be in favour of something more skill based, admittedly its hard to come up with anything. alternately you base it on stats - the team with the most shots on target during the 90 wins, then shots off target, then corners etc. that would hopefully prevent the kind of anti-football chelsea played to get to the final. British football has become a bore to watch because most teams these days set out not to lose, it's a throw back to how the Italians used to play when they were at their most dominant. Absorb pressure then counter attack, if you don't score keep a clean sheet and hope for penalties. A fear of losing has crept in and this anti-football is perfect for our sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Good point. 6 a side idea then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 A game of spoof Spoof for pints of Natch. The winner is the one who stays upright the longest! Screech, you're a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 sensible idea this.. allow 3 more subs in extra time. Fresher teams, better football, more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 At the end of extra time, the number of times a team has hit the woodwork is converted into goals, thus pleasing Jordan tansley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duesseldorf Citizen Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 oh no doubt the guy is a prize-grade ****, but i think it's unfair to suggest the timing of this (which is more likely to do with the euros than the CL final) has anything to do with fc bayern germans love penalties because they almost always win. no one in germany would be in favour of changing that! WRONG ! I was a huge fan of the "Golden Goal" and would like to see it again. As the next goal wins, both teams have to play offensively and it's more than just pure luck and / or lottery deciding a game or even a title... Actually I do not know anyone who's a fan of the penalties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 British football has become a bore to watch because most teams these days set out not to lose, it's a throw back to how the Italians used to play when they were at their most dominant. Absorb pressure then counter attack, if you don't score keep a clean sheet and hope for penalties. A fear of losing has crept in and this anti-football is perfect for our sides. When you say most teams, who do you mean? Chelski definitely played that way under Di Matteo in Europe, who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 so you're implying that blatter, a swiss, somehow favours bayern munich? despite the fact that proposals to end penalty shootouts were made as early as euro 1996, 18 years before "his" team lost a penalty shoot...? also exploring alternatives certainly isn't "going off on one" - penalties do not ensure that the better team wins, sadly. there has to be a better solution and it's only right to discuss it. but of course because he's "johnny foreigner" he must be a power-grabbing, anti-english hate mongeror. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 so you're implying that blatter, a swiss, somehow favours bayern munich? despite the fact that proposals to end penalty shootouts were made as early as euro 1996, 18 years before "his" team lost a penalty shoot...? also exploring alternatives certainly isn't "going off on one" - penalties do not ensure that the better team wins, sadly. there has to be a better solution and it's only right to discuss it. but of course because he's "johnny foreigner" he must be a power-grabbing, anti-english hate mongeror. No, the fact he's a power-grabbing, anti-English hate mongeror is what makes him a power-grabbing, anti-English hate mongeror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Penalty shoot outs were introduced for the Watney Cup in 1970 as the three rounds were played injust 8 days, so replays were not practical. Someone had the idea therefore of penaalties. UEFA then adopted the idea. Until then if teams were tied they simply tossed a coin or disc to determine who went through to the next round. Yep they had the equivalent of Chelsea v Bayern determined by a call of heads or tails! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 I have no problem with penalties. Not fair just to play for ever taking players off - would seem to me there is at least some skill in penalties. A bit like the play offs really - not perfect, but do add excitement. Never liked Golden Goals ever since Gazza looking at the ball drfting past him v Germany in 1996! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniehuntslovechild Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Blatter's swiss That is German (thats where all the German war Gold went) he really is German, And a Kuntz at that. If it aint broke don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Inspired by that video of Lee Johnson smacking a ball right into Robbie Savage's face: how about - after extra time, stand a big fat FIFA bureacrat on the centre circle, take shots at him and the first team to hit him sqaure on the nose wins?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 so you're implying that blatter, a swiss, somehow favours bayern munich? despite the fact that proposals to end penalty shootouts were made as early as euro 1996, 18 years before "his" team lost a penalty shoot...? also exploring alternatives certainly isn't "going off on one" - penalties do not ensure that the better team wins, sadly. there has to be a better solution and it's only right to discuss it. but of course because he's "johnny foreigner" he must be a power-grabbing, anti-english hate mongeror. Your so right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Roughneck Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Only a fool or a daily mail reader would think that the timing of this has anything to do with an English side winning a major match on penalties. It's more of a smokescreen for backtracking on reforms. Anyway, we've had this debate several times on otib, and none of us have ever come up with a satisfactory alternative, given the (assumed) constraints of 1. Finishing the match inside the TV "window" - no 3-hour potentially unending extra time periods; and 2. having something that doesn't artifically alter the match itself, eg teams playing deliberately just for corners (if you decided matches on corners). I for one don't mind penalties - the fact that Germany don't have a bad record at them but England and Holland do speaks volumes in terms of the "do the better teams win?" debate. I think Blatter, the consumate politician, has publicly given this job to Beckenbauer so that when the latter fails to come up with anything either, it will make him look like the idiot. Why Blatter wants to undermine Beckenbauer I don't know, the biggest threats to his position appear to be Platini, Jerome Champagne or the collective bargaining of the ECA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the Frog Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 On a more serious note, how about the match be decided by running through a recreation of Silbury Road? Last man standing wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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