II Wurzel II Posted June 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Torres was shocking from the second he came on to the second the ref blew for full-time. He's not the same player he was for sure, he's not even having a bed spell.. he's just distinctly average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Ok thanks. Today like a win for Italy. Quickly changing the subject. Sorry,Sporting Lisbon not Porto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Sorry,Sporting Lisbon not Porto. Ah that's what confused me then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Torres was shocking from the second he came on to the second the ref blew for full-time. He's not the same player he was for sure, he's not even having a bed spell.. he's just distinctly average. A good striker would have had a hat trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Roughneck Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 well jordan, if you found that boring, you are going to hate the england game tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Ah that's what confused me then. That's what I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 A good striker would have had a hat trick. and had his lunch stuck to his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 well jordan, if you found that boring, you are going to hate the england game tomorrow. I hardly ever find England great to watch but I like to watch them due to being a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 well jordan, if you found that boring, you are going to hate the england game tomorrow. Try it from my perspective, I have to face them eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Roughneck Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Anyone who doesn't love watching Andres Iniesta and Xavi Hernandez playing association football is a mentalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Torres was shocking from the second he came on to the second the ref blew for full-time. He's not the same player he was for sure, he's not even having a bed spell.. he's just distinctly average. I thought Torres did Ok. Buffon was lucky with his bungling tackling thing, Torres also wasn't far off with that nice chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kermit the Frog Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 Ah that's what confused me then. I still dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 I still dont get it Old Timers disease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 The 6 in midfield thing- people criticise it but a number of false 9s can help. E.g. Roma under Spaletti it was very useful for them with Totti as the false 9, could even be argued Man Utd used it at times in 07/08- neither Rooney, Tevez nor Ronaldo were traditional strikers to say the least! Could argue that when Spain start with Villa as a lone striker, he pulls out to the left, drops off so often that it's a strikerless formation. The future of football is with one up front AT MOST at the high levels. Arsenal with Van Persie, he can play as a false 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 The 6 in midfield thing- people criticise it but a number of false 9s can help. E.g. Roma under Spaletti it was very useful for them with Totti as the false 9, could even be argued Man Utd used it at times in 07/08- neither Rooney, Tevez nor Ronaldo were traditional strikers to say the least! Could argue that when Spain start with Villa as a lone striker, he pulls out to the left, drops off so often that it's a strikerless formation. The future of football is with one up front AT MOST at the high levels. Arsenal with Van Persie, he can play as a false 9. Or even Hidgekuti (sp?) for Hungary back in the 1950s, according to everything I've read, didn't actually see him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 The 6 in midfield thing- people criticise it but a number of false 9s can help. E.g. Roma under Spaletti it was very useful for them with Totti as the false 9, could even be argued Man Utd used it at times in 07/08- neither Rooney, Tevez nor Ronaldo were traditional strikers to say the least! Could argue that when Spain start with Villa as a lone striker, he pulls out to the left, drops off so often that it's a strikerless formation. The future of football is with one up front AT MOST at the high levels. Arsenal with Van Persie, he can play as a false 9. If you have players in your team that can pass and move all day long I would agree, unfortunately here in England the 451/433 formation is ultra dull and negative because our players do not understand the concept or have the ability to play it. It has become a revamp of the type of games the Italian league is/was famous for, a lot of huff and puff in midfield and a breakaway goal wins the game, it's so dull to watch when played in the championship for instance, although I will agree there are a few teams that can play it well in England, the vast majority of teams can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
II Wurzel II Posted June 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 The big diffrences is Spain move forwards whilst passing short and not sidewides or backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 If you have players in your team that can pass and move all day long I would agree, unfortunately here in England the 451/433 formation is ultra dull and negative because our players do not understand the concept or have the ability to play it. It has become a revamp of the type of games the Italian league is/was famous for, a lot of huff and puff in midfield and a breakaway goal wins the game, it's so dull to watch when played in the championship for instance, although I will agree there are a few teams that can play it well in England, the vast majority of teams can't. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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