Super Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Didn't watch the first half due to watching the end of the Somerset game, but just seen Gomez's goals.... WOW! Smashed Warwickshire I just saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 going to say it and probably jinx it but this really could be one hell of a 45 minutes football coming up No second half goals then. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Some would say the country you are born in becomes your first and primary nationality. So technically Klose and Podolski are Polish. He was born in Poland, yes. He has dual German and Polish nationality. The opinion of the some that are saying it is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Some would say the country you are born in becomes your first and primary nationality. So technically Klose and Podolski are Polish. That's the arguement that people use against the english cricket team, picking people who have english parents but born abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 That's the arguement that people use against the english cricket team, picking people who have english parents but born abroad. I think it's a fair argument. Obviously you can have other nationalities in your family but if you are born in a country, surely that is your nationality? May not be the nation you love or live in but in my opinion where you are born, is where you are from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am A Cider Drinker Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 No second half goals then. Well done. does there have to be goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think it's a fair argument. Obviously you can have other nationalities in your family but if you are born in a country, surely that is your nationality? May not be the nation you love or live in but in my opinion where you are born, is where you are from. There are always exceptions. A lad I work with was born in Germany as his Dad was in the army and stationed there. If you said he was German he'd take your head off !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think it's a fair argument. Obviously you can have other nationalities in your family but if you are born in a country, surely that is your nationality? May not be the nation you love or live in but in my opinion where you are born, is where you are from. I disagree. You could have 2 English parents who e.g. go to Cardiff for the day. If you are born in Cardiff Hospital, however go home to your house in England the next day. Why should that make you Welsh? Doesn't work that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 does there have to be goals? No but we'd all love some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think it's a fair argument. Obviously you can have other nationalities in your family but if you are born in a country, surely that is your nationality? May not be the nation you love or live in but in my opinion where you are born, is where you are from. No, it is not your nationality in all cases. For instance, here in Cayman, a child born of British parents is not given Caymanian status, nor does he or she have any right of residence in Cayman, other than as a dependent. The child will be British, despite being born 4,500 miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am A Cider Drinker Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 No but we'd all love some indeed we would but im still enjoying the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I disagree. You could have 2 English parents who e.g. go to Cardiff for the day. If you are born in Cardiff Hospital, however go home to your house in England the next day. Why should that make you Welsh? Doesn't work that way. I understand what you are saying, I think by heart you would feel English. You would support England, but isn't it a fact that you are still Welsh being born in Wales? There's no rights or wrongs here, just personal opinions on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think it's a fair argument. Obviously you can have other nationalities in your family but if you are born in a country, surely that is your nationality? May not be the nation you love or live in but in my opinion where you are born, is where you are from. My problem is where I think its Strauss' situation, English parents move abroad to work for 8-10 years move back to England with Strauss at the age of 6, so he would have gone to school, started playing cricket etc all in England and would have spent the 6 years in South Africa simply having been born there purely because its where his parents were working at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Is it wrong to say I really enjoy watching the Germans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am A Cider Drinker Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Is it wrong to say I really enjoy watching the Germans? nope its good quality efficient football id say i love watching them play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_red Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I think it's a fair argument. Obviously you can have other nationalities in your family but if you are born in a country, surely that is your nationality? May not be the nation you love or live in but in my opinion where you are born, is where you are from. i was born in switzerland, moved to England when i was two years old. have no affinity to switzerland, my parents are not Swiss, and neither do I count myself as Swiss. Were I a footballer I would certainly pick England as my team, and not only because it'd be easier to break into the team. In the case of Podolski and Klose, they also found themselves moving at an early age, and clearly feel themselves to be assimilated Germans. And fair play to them, they clearly didn't pick Germany because it was easier to get into the side than, ahem, Poland. Clearly it is the country they find themselves bonded to. On the other side of the coin, i have no time for players with abstract connections to a country who suddenly turn their shoulders on the country that is in their blood and bones for the sake of an international cap. mercenaries, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 When the germans have a chance to score they take it. Intelligent passes from Schweinsteiger both Gomez, what to say. Born scorer, doesnt even look happy when he scorse, its his job. Must be frustrating for the Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Is it wrong to say I really enjoy watching the Germans? Not at all, they are a great team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 This game is becoming very similar to the lesson they handed out to us in the last world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I understand what you are saying, I think by heart you would feel English. You would support England, but isn't it a fact that you are still Welsh being born in Wales? There's no rights or wrongs here, just personal opinions on the matter. No. Next time you are in another country, does that make you that nationality for the time you are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 i was born in switzerland, moved to England when i was two years old. have no affinity to switzerland, my parents are not Swiss, and neither do I count myself as Swiss. Were I a footballer I would certainly pick England as my team, and not only because it'd be easier to break into the team. In the case of Podolski and Klose, they also found themselves moving at an early age, and clearly feel themselves to be assimilated Germans. And fair play to them, they clearly didn't pick Germany because it was easier to get into the side than, ahem, Poland. Clearly it is the country they find themselves bonded to. On the other side of the coin, i have no time for players with abstract connections to a country who suddenly turn their shoulders on the country that is in their blood and bones for the sake of an international cap. mercenaries, frankly. Someone like Owen Hargreaves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_red Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 This game is becoming very similar to the lesson they handed out to us in the last world cup. frighteningly so. they are a force to be reckoned with. i dread to think what they would do to us if we faced them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_red Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Someone like Owen Hargreaves? bing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I understand what you are saying, I think by heart you would feel English. You would support England, but isn't it a fact that you are still Welsh being born in Wales? There's no rights or wrongs here, just personal opinions on the matter. There are personal opinions. And there are nationality rules established in law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 No. Next time you are in another country, does that make you that nationality for the time you are there? Ofcourse not, however I think being 'born' somewhere makes you from that country. You came from that country, you left that country at birth to go anywhere else. Anyway it's my opinion and I understand yours. I've had this debate with friends before and it always splits opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron10bc Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Ozil is ridiculously good ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Ozil is ridiculously good ! To think he only cost 12m for Real Madrid aswell. Ozil for 12m and Khedira for 6m was some seriously good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Ofcourse not, however I think being 'born' somewhere makes you from that country. You came from that country, you left that country at birth to go anywhere else. Anyway it's my opinion and I understand yours. I've had this debate with friends before and it always splits opinions. But how about when you are in the womb. Does the baby not have a nationality then? Nationality is like genetics. You get it from your parents. If I was born in Africa I wouldn't be African cause I have nothing to do with culture or anything. If I was born in Africa but stayed their for 10 years then I would be African as environment affects you as a person and I would of grown up with the culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron10bc Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 So strong on the ball and always on the move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron10bc Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Van persie class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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