Portland Bill Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Im guessing he is in the same camp as me who think i was a bad 1st touch by welbeck Make that 3 of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Apart from the fact he has finished like that before! Cracking finish, I don't rate the bloke in any shape or form, but I will recognise a good bit of skill, even if I don't rate someone The only reason i think it was lucky is because most of welbecks 2nd touches are tackles as his firsts are that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Im guessing he is in the same camp as me who think i was a bad 1st touch by welbeck No chance it was a bad touch he meant to do it no question. It makes me laugh that had Iniesta scored the exact same goal people would be saying that's why he's one of the greatest ever players to play the game!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron10bc Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Im guessing he is in the same camp as me who think i was a bad 1st touch by welbeck Whys he going to try to try and control a ball 5 yards out from goal ?he helped it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Game Over... time to turn over. Congrats Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 The only reason i think it was lucky is because most of welbecks 2nd touches are tackles as his firsts are that bad That is true, he has a trampoline attached to his foot most of the time he has his back to goal. If he had got his proper first touch it would have ended up in row Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 That is one of the great team goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 No chance it was a bad touch he meant to do it no question. It makes me laugh that had Iniesta scored the exact same goal people would be saying that's why he's one of the greatest ever players to play the game!! He is though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Jordi Alba cost £11m... he will be immense for Barca. Not sure he could play for many other sides though due to his attacking nature and very little defensive work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 No chance it was a bad touch he meant to do it no question. It makes me laugh that had Iniesta scored the exact same goal people would be saying that's why he's one of the greatest ever players to play the game!! Next your going to tell us that Rooneys over head kick goal v Man City didnt come off his shin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Game Over... time to turn over. Congrats Spain. Itv has a good programme on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Itv has a good programme on!! Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 That is one of the great team goals. First touch for that goal was unbelievable! Is cassias unable to catch the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Next your going to tell us that Rooneys over head kick goal v Man City didnt come off his shin Nope it did, don't see how that means welbeck never meant to do what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Jordi Alba cost £11m... he will be immense for Barca. Not sure he could play for many other sides though due to his attacking nature and very little defensive work. He could play for liverpool they have Johnson on the other flank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Spain which is a relatively small nation will dominate world football at club and international level for the next 10 years atleast... Their current national team win everything Their Under 21s win everything Their under 19s win everything Their under 17s win everything Real and Barca will always be in the latter stages of the Champions League... Too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 First touch for that goal was unbelievable! Is cassias unable to catch the ball? Cassias Can never make up my mind if he is one of the worlds best keepers or the worlds luckiest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Cassias Can never make up my mind if he is one of the worlds best keepers or the worlds luckiest One of the worlds best surely, he has very little saves to make but the best ones are the ones who have nothing to do all game then pull off a world class stop. Also 136 caps and 500+ club games at the age of 30 for top sides isn't something a decent keeper achieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Cassias Can never make up my mind if he is one of the worlds best keepers or the worlds luckiest Both, you make your own luck, he is brave, makes his decision, more often than not it comes off... Because he believes in his own ability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Spain which is a relatively small nation will dominate world football at club and international level for the next 10 years atleast... Their current national team win everything Their Under 21s win everything Their under 19s win everything Their under 17s win everything Real and Barca will always be in the latter stages of the Champions League... Too good. Netherlands are the current U17 Champions and Ghana won the U20s world cup. Spain will be a very strong side for a long time to come I'm sure, but just because you win things at youth level doesn't mean that will translate to senior international level. Xavi and Iniesta don't grow on trees, even in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Cassias Can never make up my mind if he is one of the worlds best keepers or the worlds luckiest I'm with you on that point, understand where Jordan is coming from but he always punches when it looks easier to catch and I've never watched him and thought he looks a real top class keeper, I'm not saying he's a poor keeper bu the way but I'm fairly sure if given a choice of him or Joe Hart I would pick Hart!! Can't argue with the medals he's won though so fair play to him. I better add I've not watched many of his games in comparison to how many he's played so I could be off the mark!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I'm with you on that point, understand where Jordan is coming from but he always punches when it looks easier to catch and I've never watched him and thought he looks a real top class keeper, I'm not saying he's a poor keeper bu the way but I'm fairly sure if given a choice of him or Joe Hart I would pick Hart!! Can't argue with the medals he's won though so fair play to him. I think us English put too much into this catching rather than punching malarky. Punching does not make you a bad keeper. it is just another way with dealing with it. many teams set up for the punch so they can hit on the counter attack quickly. Also it is far less dangerous if you are a good puncher. Once caught, you can still be hit, you can still lose the ball has you hit the deck, and sometimes you cannot reach the ball properly to catch. Of course, You have to be a good puncher, but that is exactly what he is, Unlike James! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Netherlands are the current U17 Champions and Ghana won the U20s world cup. Spain will be a very strong side for a long time to come I'm sure, but just because you win things at youth level doesn't mean that will translate to senior international level. Xavi and Iniesta don't grow on trees, even in Spain. Aslong as Barcelona keep their La Masia academy up and running Spain will always have top playmakers. Sergi Samper will be the next, he's in the Barca youth system and they see him as Xavi's replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 What a save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I think us English put too much into this catching rather than punching malarky. Punching does not make you a bad keeper. it is just another way with dealing with it. many teams set up for the punch so they can hit on the counter attack quickly. Also it is far less dangerous if you are a good puncher. Once caught, you can still be hit, you can still lose the ball has you hit the deck, and sometimes you cannot reach the ball properly to catch. Of course, You have to be a good puncher, but that is exactly what he is, Unlike James! That's was a cracking save I will give him that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john shaws hair Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 spain havnt conceaded a goal in a knockout game since 2006 wowzers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Ten man well that is game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 No surprise that Italy have had 2 players gone off injured. The shortest rest period in the whole Championship was 2 days from their semi to today. Whoever set the schedule must be mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 I think us English put too much into this catching rather than punching malarky. Punching does not make you a bad keeper. it is just another way with dealing with it. many teams set up for the punch so they can hit on the counter attack quickly. Also it is far less dangerous if you are a good puncher. Once caught, you can still be hit, you can still lose the ball has you hit the deck, and sometimes you cannot reach the ball properly to catch. Of course, You have to be a good puncher, but that is exactly what he is, Unlike James! As you say, it's always been the English way that keepers should catch the ball. Times have changed,let's be honest if you take away Hart we haven't got another classy English keeper. Which seems to say that the foreign goalkeeping way of doing things is now the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 As you say, it's always been the English way that keepers should catch the ball. Times have changed,let's be honest if you take away Hart we haven't got another classy English keeper. Which seems to say that the foreign goalkeeping way of doing things is now the best. Is there that many top top class keepers around these days compared to 5,10 or 15 years back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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