The Humble Realist Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Our lack of a centre half is a big concern in my eyes. I kno DM is working hard to bring one in but with only a week to go will we get one. Furthermore if we do the player will hv one pre season game max to bed in. Before the last 8 games of last season we looked very shaky in central defence. Add to this the departure of cisse and things are at best looking uncertain defensively ahead of the new season. I kno this post seems negative but I am just being realistic as without at the very least an amogou I really believe we will struggle away from home in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 We are far stronger than last season, bar a CB who will be brought in soon. I take it the two posters saying "we will struggle" and "wont score many goals" haven't seen any of the pre season games, as we look a far more attaccking unit this year and i think we will score a shed full, so cheer up lads, it might never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 For **** sake what is wrong with some of you we haven't even kicked a ******* ball yet With support like this we may as well fold the ******* club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East end Forever Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think we are currently very weak, we will struggle to score goals again and will be flirting with relegation. Wtf are you for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'm perfectly cheerful................but it will happen ..........unless we get a centre half and a striker...........we will not be competitive enough. Beating a couple of sub standard Scots teams, a lowly neighbour, and drawing with Soton proves nothing.....except that we are fitter than most teams....who will be just as fit in 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 I don't think u can read too much into pre season, bar saints we havnt played any1 decent! However I do agree its good to be unbeaten and certainly better than in last 2seasons. I'm not being negative, I just fear we could get dragged into a relegation scrap without that centre half. Whose going to be centre half , fontaine and....Carey(gettin older obv), nyatanga (proved he needs sum1 stronger than fontaine alongside him), Wilson (unproven really but young) . I just think a lot of optimists talking bout top ten need to calm down until centre back signed as we will struggle defensivly away from home without one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think we good to go For **** sake what is wrong with some of you we haven't even kicked a ******* ball yet With support like this we may as well fold the ******* club Oooh, can't tell if winding up OP or really upset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You are forgetting that Mcmanus came in without any game time and bedded in straight away, as did Bikey when he came in. It's sides and squads that need to play and merge together, not the odd inidividual here and there...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roddy-d Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You are forgetting that Mcmanus came in without any game time and bedded in straight away, as did Bikey when he came in. It's sides and squads that need to play and merge together, not the odd inidividual here and there...... I was going to say the same thing, Dont even think Mcmanus trained before the palace game either!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Suspect lower mid-table if we get a decent centre-back in. While we are far stronger than last season, so is the division. Think we could find a couple of break-through players from the development squad - hopeful for Taylor and Wilson. If that happens and we invest in a goal-scoring midfielder and nippy striker the play-offs are a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think we good to go Oooh, can't tell if winding up OP or really upset Very angry why write the club off without a ball being kicked People on here have been saying a good preseason is important now they are saying jack If we don't sign anyone else so what what makes you think we will be in a relegation scrap? We proved at the end of last season if we have a settled side with a good manager we can beat anyone The only reason we were un a relegation battle was Keith Millen everyone knows it but people like robbo and all the other Millen lovers don't want to admit they are wrong Instead of worrying about relegation (last time I checked there was still 46 games left) support the ****ung team and have a bit of faith un the manager for a change!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil78 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Our lack of a centre half is a big concern in my eyes. I kno DM is working hard to bring one in but with only a week to go will we get one. Furthermore if we do the player will hv one pre season game max to bed in. Before the last 8 games of last season we looked very shaky in central defence. Add to this the departure of cisse and things are at best looking uncertain defensively ahead of the new season. I kno this post seems negative but I am just being realistic as without at the very least an amogou I really believe we will struggle away from home in particular. Little wrong with what you have said. Lose of Cisse is a big blow which is being underestimated. Defence and Attack are a concern. Up front we have two good forwards but if either are injured (which will happen at some point) then we have a problem, Taylor could come good, but is still a unknown at this level. Defensively lack of a Amogou/McManus player is concerning. Hoping Carey can get and stay fit, but based on last two season isn't a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 We def need a ball winning centre back to stop us conceding goals like we did last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Very angry why write the club off without a ball being kicked People on here have been saying a good preseason is important now they are saying jack If we don't sign anyone else so what what makes you think we will be in a relegation scrap? We proved at the end of last season if we have a settled side with a good manager we can beat anyone The only reason we were un a relegation battle was Keith Millen everyone knows it but people like robbo and all the other Millen lovers don't want to admit they are wrong Instead of worrying about relegation (last time I checked there was still 46 games left) support the ****ung team and have a bit of faith un the manager for a change!!! I only ever try and be realistic. I try not to be negative nor optimistic . Just sayin it as I see it in that we struggled at the back last year til amogou came in n we havnt replaced him. Just said I think we could struggle if we don't get one in! I agree about Millen n I kno delboy will have us much better organised. In fact I expect del probably shares my view! At no point have I 'written the club off ' n will always have my full support til the death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Just to clarify as well , I'm only talkin about central defence as it was clearly a weakness last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Suspect lower mid-table if we get a decent centre-back in. While we are far stronger than last season, so is the division. Think we could find a couple of break-through players from the development squad - hopeful for Taylor and Wilson. If that happens and we invest in a goal-scoring midfielder and nippy striker the play-offs are a possibility. The league isn't far stronger than last season. While teams like Huddersfield have come up.....you have teams like Birmingham, Palarse Leeds and Ipswich who are much are weaker. You also have teams like Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday who could struggle at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 The league isn't far stronger than last season. While teams like Huddersfield have come up.....you have teams like Birmingham, Palarse Leeds and Ipswich who are much are weaker. You also have teams like Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday who could struggle at this level. In my eyes, the teams you mention just back up his point that the league is stronger. I definitely don't expect Charlton to struggle, Dave Jones will have Sheff Wed in the top half. Birmingham still look tidy to me and have a good young manager in Lee Clarke. Warnock will sort Leeds out. Only Ipswich look weaker out if that lot IMO.... Add to that Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves. It's definitely tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Blackburns off field problems will hinder them bolton are up the creak of they don't make a return to the pre right away Charlton and Wednesday aren't going to be a big threat Huddersfield will be though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCfan Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Comparing our squad now to last season, i don't understand how anyone can be in a downer. Clearly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Blackburns off field problems will hinder them bolton are up the creak of they don't make a return to the pre right away Charlton and Wednesday aren't going to be a big threat Huddersfield will be though We'll see. We all know what momentum can do for you following promotion. Bolton will be there or thereabouts, so will Blackburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Very angry why write the club off without a ball being kicked People on here have been saying a good preseason is important now they are saying jack If we don't sign anyone else so what what makes you think we will be in a relegation scrap? We proved at the end of last season if we have a settled side with a good manager we can beat anyone The only reason we were un a relegation battle was Keith Millen everyone knows it but people like robbo and all the other Millen lovers don't want to admit they are wrong Instead of worrying about relegation (last time I checked there was still 46 games left) support the ****ung team and have a bit of faith un the manager for a change!!! Wood, as yet, not replaced, Bikey, as yet not replaced, Cisse, gone. All still needs rectifying, all pivotal in our run in. Not to say it won't happen. At the moment we haven't, which leads me to believe we will struggle. Attacking, we look better, but in non competitive games. In defence, against poor opposition, apart from the saints, the same school boy errors, which is a little worrying. We are light on strikers, if stead and Taylor follow last seasons injuries, we will have just pitman.... Who can't play up front on his own! The defence only shored up once Bikey arrived, it was still shipping with McManus. I'm hoping Cunningham will help a little, but, it is still a problem area. Will morris play the cisse role? I think he will play the Kilkenny role, leaving the fragile central defence over exposed At this point in time, I see a struggle, if we sign some quality in the right positions, there will be a lot more optimism. I can only go by what I have seen so far. That said, the attacking full backs look a big improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brislingwood Red Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Wood, as yet, not replaced, Bikey, as yet not replaced, Cisse, gone. All still needs rectifying, all pivotal in our run in. Not to say it won't happen. At the moment we haven't, which leads me to believe we will struggle. Attacking, we look better, but in non competitive games. In defence, against poor opposition, apart from the saints, the same school boy errors, which is a little worrying. We are light on strikers, if stead and Taylor follow last seasons injuries, we will have just pitman.... Who can't play up front on his own! The defence only shored up once Bikey arrived, it was still shipping with McManus. I'm hoping Cunningham will help a little, but, it is still a problem area. Will morris play the cisse role? I think he will play the Kilkenny role, leaving the fragile central defence over exposed At this point in time, I see a struggle, if we sign some quality in the right positions, there will be a lot more optimism. I can only go by what I have seen so far. That said, the attacking full backs look a big improvement. Top (realistic) post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 In my eyes, the teams you mention just back up his point that the league is stronger. I definitely don't expect Charlton to struggle, Dave Jones will have Sheff Wed in the top half. Birmingham still look tidy to me and have a good young manager in Lee Clarke. Warnock will sort Leeds out. Only Ipswich look weaker out if that lot IMO.... Add to that Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves. It's definitely tougher. So this league is much tougher yet Sheff Wed are altomatically going to finish in the top half......Right, ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 So this league is much tougher yet Sheff Wed are altomatically going to finish in the top half......Right, ok then. We've lost Reading, Southampton And West Ham. Been replaced by Bolton, Blackburn and Wolves - all good sides IMO despite there struggles. We've lost Coventry(utter shite), Donny(Shite) and Pompey (going bust) been replaced by Charlton, Sheff Weds and Hudders - all stronger teams. It's not even debatable!! We finished in the playoffs following promotion, momentum is key and Dave Jones knows this division inside out. He's already made some good signings, I'd be very surprised if Sheff Wed weren't competitive. What makes you think they will struggle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ricardo 'Livi' Red Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Blackburns off field problems will hinder them bolton are up the creak of they don't make a return to the pre right away Charlton and Wednesday aren't going to be a big threat Huddersfield will be though Blackburn will walk the Championship if they get it right on the pitch. They've got a Prem midfield and still looking to sign Rhodes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil78 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Wood, as yet, not replaced, Bikey, as yet not replaced, Cisse, gone. All still needs rectifying, all pivotal in our run in. Not to say it won't happen. At the moment we haven't, which leads me to believe we will struggle. Attacking, we look better, but in non competitive games. In defence, against poor opposition, apart from the saints, the same school boy errors, which is a little worrying. We are light on strikers, if stead and Taylor follow last seasons injuries, we will have just pitman.... Who can't play up front on his own! The defence only shored up once Bikey arrived, it was still shipping with McManus. I'm hoping Cunningham will help a little, but, it is still a problem area. Will morris play the cisse role? I think he will play the Kilkenny role, leaving the fragile central defence over exposed At this point in time, I see a struggle, if we sign some quality in the right positions, there will be a lot more optimism. I can only go by what I have seen so far. That said, the attacking full backs look a big improvement. TOP POST Agree with that fully, out wide we have improved no doubt, however, the spine still looks weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Wood, as yet, not replaced, Bikey, as yet not replaced, Cisse, gone. All still needs rectifying, all pivotal in our run in. Not to say it won't happen. At the moment we haven't, which leads me to believe we will struggle. Attacking, we look better, but in non competitive games. In defence, against poor opposition, apart from the saints, the same school boy errors, which is a little worrying. We are light on strikers, if stead and Taylor follow last seasons injuries, we will have just pitman.... Who can't play up front on his own! The defence only shored up once Bikey arrived, it was still shipping with McManus. I'm hoping Cunningham will help a little, but, it is still a problem area. Will morris play the cisse role? I think he will play the Kilkenny role, leaving the fragile central defence over exposed At this point in time, I see a struggle, if we sign some quality in the right positions, there will be a lot more optimism. I can only go by what I have seen so far. That said, the attacking full backs look a big improvement. Wood only signed because Maynard left score 1 goal (stead when fit is better) Cisse has been replaced with Morris who looks like he can pass tackle and hold the ball Bikes was only signed due to injurys to Fontaine and carey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 6oclockcrew Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Is it beyond the realms of comprehension that several of our players perform unimaginably better than last season. Anyone who thinks that fonts isnt a very very good centre back at this level is deluded. My prediction is that del will get twice as much out of every one of our players this season, its a tough league and we wont get it all our way. But people need to stop confusing poor form and luck with us actually having a poor team. We are on the whole very capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 We've lost Reading, Southampton And West Ham. Been replaced by Bolton, Blackburn and Wolves - all good sides IMO despite there struggles. We've lost Coventry(utter shite), Donny(Shite) and Pompey (going bust) been replaced by Charlton, Sheff Weds and Hudders - all stronger teams. It's not even debatable!! We finished in the playoffs following promotion, momentum is key and Dave Jones knows this division inside out. He's already made some good signings, I'd be very surprised if Sheff Wed weren't competitive. What makes you think they will struggle? Made some good signings? Mccabe and Antonio are hardly top class players at this level, kinda proves that you dont know what your talking about. Your completely missing the point, Leeds have lost Clayton, Lonergan and Snodgrass and replaced them with Andy Gray (yes really!!!!), Ashdown, Varney and Norris (Notice something about those 3), Mccormack has already threatened to walk as has Warnock.... The difference between previous contenders, i.e Birmingham, Leeds, Forest, Middlesbrough, Leicester etc is getting smaller and smaller and the gap with us is certainly tighter than last season, can you honestly not see that??! Watford, Peterborough, Wednesday, Charlton, Barnsley, Derby, Ipswich, Millwall, FLorist, Palarse are all there and thereabouts in regards to potential relegation,,,,,and there is no doubt that the likes of Leeds arent far ahead of them.....gap between the top and the bottom is closing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aberporthbcfc Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Is one player really going to change much!? Del said a cb is not one of our priorty's so I think he may use what we got imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil78 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 We've lost Reading, Southampton And West Ham. Been replaced by Bolton, Blackburn and Wolves - all good sides IMO despite there struggles. We've lost Coventry(utter shite), Donny(Shite) and Pompey (going bust) been replaced by Charlton, Sheff Weds and Huddlers - all stronger teams. It's not even debatable!! We finished in the playoffs following promotion, momentum is key and Dave Jones knows this division inside out. He's already made some good signings, I'd be very surprised if Sheff Wed weren't competitive. What makes you think they will struggle? Indeed, teams coming up from league 1 have a reputation of hitting the ground running, Swansea, Brighton, Leeds, Leicester, Southampton have all come up to have very succesful first seasons, Charlton and Huddersfield I feel will do similar. Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves are all very strong sides, We took points off the likes of WHU and Southampton, the relegated 3 are all capable of pushing for a return. Forest, Hull, Watford, Leicester, Boro have all invested heavily, while the likes of Blackpool and Brum still have parachute money which can be and has been invested well Could be another cold long winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Is it beyond the realms of comprehension that several of our players perform unimaginably better than last season. Anyone who thinks that fonts isnt a very very good centre back at this level is deluded. My prediction is that del will get twice as much out of every one of our players this season, its a tough league and we wont get it all our way. But people need to stop confusing poor form and luck with us actually having a poor team. We are on the whole very capable. Has no one told you we can't score marv is the worst midfielder to every play for the club The defence is a shambles I mean with 3 international players in it, it's got to be the worst in the history of the club Our manager can't sign anyone and isn't even bothering to look because he isn't telling us every 2 minutes with missed out by a whisker in signing rvp and modric Oh and tactically he isn't as good as our last manager and is no where near as good a coach or interviewee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I'd be very suprised to see Wolves go up this season. Have it on VERY good authority that there is unrest in the camp regarding Solbakken and his methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Wood only signed because Maynard left score 1 goal (stead when fit is better) Cisse has been replaced with Morris who looks like he can pass tackle and hold the ball Bikes was only signed due to injurys to Fontaine and carey morris, as much as he is a good player, is not the true defensive player cisse was, ever seen morris play centre back? He won't compete in the air either. Wood, several important goals in the run in, including match winning penalty vs forest. We have not replaced maynard. So I don't understand that argument. Maynard gone, wood in, wood gone, who in. You say stead was injured, not for most of the run in, but he is injury prone, so no wood or stead, striking options ain't looking so great now! Bikey signed because of fonts and Carey., what was our win ratio with Fontaine and Carey together? Both injury prone. Your arguments make no sense. our record with Carey and fonts was far worse than with Bikey. So this season we are going with Carey and fonts!!!!! Sorry monkeh, you have lost me with this argument, you normally put up a fairly compelling case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil78 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Wood only signed because Maynard left score 1 goal (stead when fit is better) Cisse has been replaced with Morris who looks like he can pass tackle and hold the ball Bikes was only signed due to injurys to Fontaine and carey Wood scored 3, wood may have replaced Maynard...but who's replacing wood? Cisse - POTY contender and defensive Hardman, debatably been replaced by Morris, but 33 year old isn't going to play 40-46 games a season like Cisse was capable of Bikey was signed to cover injuries, but do you honestly feel Carey/Font are good/fit enough to cover a whole season, not likely based on recent seasons 2 debatable 3 players massively needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil78 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Is one player really going to change much!? Del said a cb is not one of our priorty's so I think he may use what we got imo No, he said a right back was not a priority, has never said that regarding centre halfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Made some good signings? Mccabe and Antonio are hardly top class players at this level, kinda proves that you dont know what your talking about. Your completely missing the point, Leeds have lost Clayton, Lonergan and Snodgrass and replaced them with Andy Gray (yes really!!!!), Ashdown, Varney and Norris (Notice something about those 3), Mccormack has already threatened to walk as has Warnock.... The difference between previous contenders, i.e Birmingham, Leeds, Forest, Middlesbrough, Leicester etc is getting smaller and smaller and the gap with us is certainly tighter than last season, can you honestly not see that??! Watford, Peterborough, Wednesday, Charlton, Barnsley, Derby, Ipswich, Millwall, FLorist, Palarse are all there and thereabouts in regards to potential relegation,,,,,and there is no doubt that the likes of Leeds arent far ahead of them.....gap between the top and the bottom is closing. You cheeky little shite!! Wednesday have also signed Gardner and Pecnik. Antonio Is quality and they are still looking to sign a few more. Boro are improving under Mowbray, no doubt about that and Forest have now got money to burn. Doesn't guarantee anything but O'Driscoll is no mug so I certainly don't expect them to struggle. Derby are also steadily getting stronger and Watford with there new owners could also be a complete unknown quantity. It's laughable that you are writing them all off as strugglers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 support the ****ung team and have a bit of faith un the manager for a change!!! The Samsung team? I'd hope no one would resort to Chelsea on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think we are certainly stronger and not just in terms of personnel. Organisation, confidence, fitness. We are clearly in a much better place than this time last year and you can't turn a club round overnight. We are a couple short but I'd rather we made sure we got the right ones in than just bought for the sake of it. Next season will be tough, no doubt about that but I think we've got enough to stay clear of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You cheeky little shite!! Wednesday have also signed Gardner and Pecnik. Antonio Is quality and they are still looking to sign a few more. Boro are improving under Mowbray, no doubt about that and Forest have now got money to burn. Doesn't guarantee anything but O'Driscoll is no mug so I certainly don't expect them to struggle. Derby are also steadily getting stronger and Watford with there new owners could also be a complete unknown quantity. It's laughable that you are writing them all off as strugglers!!! It's laughable that you are writing them OFF as non-strugglers, if you knew this league you'd know nothing is set in stone, you clearly just dont get it. Please tell me how Derby are getting stronger? They have sold one of the best defenders in the league and replaced him with Keogh!!!! and lost their other CB to a season long injury......And yes, Antonio is class, that is why only ONE team were in for him, and Reading were more than willing to let him go. In this league any team can beat any other, and there are about 15 teams who COULD go down, the fact you are righting off set teams highlights that you dont know what your talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Much rather wait right until the end of the window and get the best player we can then get a player just to please the fans so they don't worry so much. Yes our games won't be easy without a commanding centre back but I'll only start worrying when we have to rely on the Loan market unless DM finds a ace from there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 It's laughable that you are writing them OFF as non-strugglers, if you knew this league you'd know nothing is set in stone, you clearly just dont get it. Please tell me how Derby are getting stronger? They have sold one of the best defenders in the league and replaced him with Keogh!!!! and lost their other CB to a season long injury......And yes, Antonio is class, that is why only ONE team were in for him, and Reading were more than willing to let him go. In this league any team can beat any other, and there are about 15 teams who COULD go down, the fact you are righting off set teams highlights that you dont know what your talking about. What don't I get? Of course nothing is set in stone, we haven't kicked a ball yet!! I think you'll find that in ANY league, any team can beat any team, not just the Champiomship. The difference is, I'm looking at the bigger picture - the manager, the experience, the steady improvements. Not simply who they have signed and he isn't very good because Reading didn't want him nonsense. How do you know only ONE team was in for Antonio? Are you his agent? There is a lot more to football than just new signings. You must have witnessed the improvement in City since McInnes took charge? He injected confidence and organisation to the players that were under performing as well as bring new boys in. The likes of Warnock and Dave Jones have proven time and time again that they can do the same and I fully expect them to this season. I think you've been playing to much Football Manager kidder. It gives the impression that you know it all, when you clearly don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Squirrel Kingdom Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Some of the posts in this thread are beginning to sound like a bunch of Year 6 kiddies who are afraid of going to big school in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Some of the posts in this thread are beginning to sound like a bunch of Year 6 kiddies who are afraid of going to big school in September. It's making me feel like one and I'm in my 30's!! I need to learn to ignore...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scoliver92 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Very angry why write the club off without a ball being kicked People on here have been saying a good preseason is important now they are saying jack If we don't sign anyone else so what what makes you think we will be in a relegation scrap? We proved at the end of last season if we have a settled side with a good manager we can beat anyone The only reason we were un a relegation battle was Keith Millen everyone knows it but people like robbo and all the other Millen lovers don't want to admit they are wrong Instead of worrying about relegation (last time I checked there was still 46 games left) support the ****ung team and have a bit of faith un the manager for a change!!! Top post sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsobigfatdave Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I dont think we are actually appreciably stronger than we were last season...we are lacking a replacement for James (like him or not) a proven centre half, someone who can get into Adomahs head in midfeild and motivate him to be the Player we all know he is and a striker who can actually score consistantly. That said we have the talent at the club I believe, its just down to Del now to justify his big reputation with what he has and produce the goods. Personally I think the club will be bumping along the bottom for next season possibly longer because no real investment is going to be made by the owners in quality players until this stadium is sorted and comes to fruition. I would expect a lower mid table finish would be a result and perhaps a couple of rounds into the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 What don't I get? Of course nothing is set in stone, we haven't kicked a ball yet!! I think you'll find that in ANY league, any team can beat any team, not just the Champiomship. The difference is, I'm looking at the bigger picture - the manager, the experience, the steady improvements. Not simply who they have signed and he isn't very good because Reading didn't want him nonsense. How do you know only ONE team was in for Antonio? Are you his agent? There is a lot more to football than just new signings. You must have witnessed the improvement in City since McInnes took charge? He injected confidence and organisation to the players that were under performing as well as bring new boys in. The likes of Warnock and Dave Jones have proven time and time again that they can do the same and I fully expect them to this season. I think you've been playing to much Football Manager kidder. It gives the impression that you know it all, when you clearly don't. As I said, the fact your saying Sheff Wednesday will definately be a top table side highlights how u don't understand this league...... This is what you don't get, your making assumptions, but because your knowledge is so Poor and limited you state things based on nothing but feeble, uneducated guesswork. For every Del there is a Cooper at Peterborough, again, the fact you can't see this highlights how little you know. This post does not require a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Is it beyond the realms of comprehension that several of our players perform unimaginably better than last season. Anyone who thinks that fonts isnt a very very good centre back at this level is deluded. My prediction is that del will get twice as much out of every one of our players this season, its a tough league and we wont get it all our way. But people need to stop confusing poor form and luck with us actually having a poor team. We are on the whole very capable. Agree with this. Would rather be in our position than a lot of our so called superior opponents who are buying players left right and centre. Del is a resourceful manager able to get the best out of individuals whilst keeping most of a sizeable squad motivated. He is tactically flexible and knows the squad well enough to get the most out of it. We are one decent striker away from being a solid Championship side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I dont think we are actually appreciably stronger than we were last season...we are lacking a replacement for James (like him or not) I consider Heaton to be a worthy replacement for James myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Trl I was being sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Midfield has been a weakness at City for several seasons, largely because Johnson and then Millen didn't strengthen enough in that area. With a weak midfield the defence gets little cover and the strikers little service. With better midfield quality the whole team functions more effectively. So far McInnes has added Pearson, Anderson and Morris and I'm hopeful that we'll see another midfield signing before next week. With these additions, plus what is already at City, Skuse, Kilkenny and Elliot I reckon City will be at least more difficult to beat. We might even see some attacking football............. Rather than 'papering over the cracks' I would say McInnes is filling the gaps albeit slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Midfield has been a weakness at City for several seasons, largely because Johnson and then Millen didn't strengthen enough in that area. With a weak midfield the defence gets little cover and the strikers little service. With better midfield quality the whole team functions more effectively. So far McInnes has added Pearson, Anderson and Morris and I'm hopeful that we'll see another midfield signing before next week. With these additions, plus what is already at City, Skuse, Kilkenny and Elliot I reckon City will be at least more difficult to beat. We might even see some attacking football............. Rather than 'papering over the cracks' I would say McInnes is filling the gaps albeit slowly. wow rather postive Robbo, top post, With Morris/Elliot protectiong the back four Skuse/Pearson playing the ball and protecting and two quick fall backs in cunningham and Foster over laping our wingers I don't think we will be in a relegation battle at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Our lack of a centre half is a big concern in my eyes. I kno DM is working hard to bring one in but with only a week to go will we get one. Furthermore if we do the player will hv one pre season game max to bed in. Before the last 8 games of last season we looked very shaky in central defence. Add to this the departure of cisse and things are at best looking uncertain defensively ahead of the new season. I kno this post seems negative but I am just being realistic as without at the very least an amogou I really believe we will struggle away from home in particular. There isn't a week to go! Transfer window shuts at the end of the month and even then you can still loan players after that. I know it's not ideal but it's better than panic buying s**t players that aren't good enough. I trust Del will bring in quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I dont think we are actually appreciably stronger than we were last season...we are lacking a replacement for James (like him or not) a proven centre half, someone who can get into Adomahs head in midfeild and motivate him to be the Player we all know he is and a striker who can actually score consistantly. That said we have the talent at the club I believe, its just down to Del now to justify his big reputation with what he has and produce the goods. Personally I think the club will be bumping along the bottom for next season possibly longer because no real investment is going to be made by the owners in quality players until this stadium is sorted and comes to fruition. I would expect a lower mid table finish would be a result and perhaps a couple of rounds into the cup. Sorry Dave , a couple of points to make here. We have signed replacement for James (Heaton). I think Morris could be the man to get into Adomah's head from what I've seen of him so far. I happen to think we need a CH & ST but I thought you were happy to go with the squad we have ?? http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/147306-not-anotherwe-just-dont-need-them/#entry1598388 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 For **** sake what is wrong with some of you we haven't even kicked a ******* ball yet With support like this we may as well fold the ******* club Spot on mate!, The same same whining old women day after day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 There isn't a week to go! Transfer window shuts at the end of the month and even then you can still loan players after that. I know it's not ideal but it's better than panic buying s**t players that aren't good enough. I trust Del will bring in quality I mean a week to the start of the season. In the last 2years we have been bottom of the league due to abysmal starts and whilst I don't think we will be as bad this year I would just like to get the defence sorted so that we are at worse top of the bottom 3rd after ten games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I'm happy so far with the quality of the players brought in, and that the manager knows the gaps well (something GJ and KM seemed to miss). I'd rather wait for the right players than rush into mistakes and I'm pleased McInnes has a careful approach in the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 dont get your knickers in a twist, thats a good girl. I wear boxers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I think we're in better shape both physically and in terms of players than we were last season. I would agree we need a center half and at least 1 center forward but Del knows this it's not like in previous seasons when we've said we need a certain position and nothing happens. I trust del to bring in the players maybe not till nearer the end of the transfer window (not ideal but there we go) but players will come in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 As I said, the fact your saying Sheff Wednesday will definately be a top table side highlights how u don't understand this league...... This is what you don't get, your making assumptions, but because your knowledge is so Poor and limited you state things based on nothing but feeble, uneducated guesswork. For every Del there is a Cooper at Peterborough, again, the fact you can't see this highlights how little you know. This post does not require a response. I will respond because you are talking to drivel - again. Please quote me on where I said Sheff Wed will be a top table side? The fact that I didn't say that simply highlights that you cannot read or you choose to make things up to suit your argument. I think you will find that I actually said the following - "Dave Jones will have Sheff Wed in the top half" & "momentum is key and Dave Jones knows this division inside out. He's already made some good signings, I'd be very surprised if Sheff Wed weren't competitive." So, Cleverclogs, where did I say that Sheff Wed would definitely be a top table side? I merely suggested they would be somehere in the top 12. Now pipe down little boy..... Stroll on, When are the school holidays over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I'm happy so far with the quality of the players brought in, and that the manager knows the gaps well (something GJ and KM seemed to miss). I'd rather wait for the right players than rush into mistakes and I'm pleased McInnes has a careful approach in the transfer market. Certainly a massive improvement on Taylor, Bolasie and Kilkenny.....clearly the board were aware that investment in the playing squad was required to help ensure that there is no repeat of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I'm happy so far with the quality of the players brought in, and that the manager knows the gaps well (something GJ and KM seemed to miss). I'd rather wait for the right players than rush into mistakes and I'm pleased McInnes has a careful approach in the transfer market. Certainly a massive improvement on Taylor, Bolasie and Kilkenny.....clearly the board were aware that investment in the playing squad was required to help ensure that there is no repeat of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 P'boro' finished slightly above City last season but have not got a (visibly) stronger squad this season. On local radio today their Manager stated more attention to detail will improve the performance. "Last season we lost 15 games by one goal, 1-0, 2-1 etc. Tighten up our play and we'll pick up more points". Sounds simple, but it still requires the same players improving on their current performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I hope we sign a defender, the reality of the situation is that GJ and every manager since has been fired because they haven't been able to get this sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 9, 2012 Author Share Posted August 9, 2012 I hope we sign a defender, the reality of the situation is that GJ and every manager since has been fired because they haven't been able to get this sorted. This is 100% true , the only 2 ppl who have suitably replaced mccombe have been caulker and amogou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Ciderhead Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Bitch fest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Our lack of a centre half is a big concern in my eyes. I kno DM is working hard to bring one in but with only a week to go will we get one. Furthermore if we do the player will hv one pre season game max to bed in. Before the last 8 games of last season we looked very shaky in central defence. Add to this the departure of cisse and things are at best looking uncertain defensively ahead of the new season. I kno this post seems negative but I am just being realistic as without at the very least an amogou I really believe we will struggle away from home in particular. This was my opening post? Fair reflection now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bcfccideredbs3 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Having seen a Comanding 1st ball winner since mccombe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think is obv early days but can't hide from fact if u let 2goals in u gota score at least 2 to get anything out of game! I do think del agrees with me though n has hands tied moneywise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil78 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Agreed with you then, still do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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