Guest W-s-m Red Army Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Tweets............. glenn yala @gyb_yala people think its always about money money stupid bellens they can only see things from there point a view total arse glenn yala @gyb_yalapeace guys unfollow me wen ur ready all the best for saturday opening game il be coming to watch sittin amongst the bristol city supporters! glenn yala @gyb_yala thats what u get with fans they think they know every thing fair enough anyways didnt think it would be this bad but ay real recognize real glenn yala @gyb_yalano player is bigger than club any1 that watches or plays football would know that #commonsenseinit there for that comment is abit leave it glenn yala @gyb_yalaso now people say yannick thinks hes bigger than the club u fans are fake still iam dne with lot keep the abuse cumin in i love it glenn yala @gyb_yala not for me to comment but all these fans il be coming bk to u wen hes doing really well y'all have a gd day glenn yala @gyb_yala every1 acting like hes gone hhave i missed something had my brother signed for a team they #bristolcity fans are acting llke hes already gne glenn yala @gyb_yala@JackCox83 so he dont work hard now! after hes played 30 games with at least 20 starts then u might have a case otherwise #leaveityeah glenn yala @gyb_yala@MattTaylorBCFC zzz ur boring me bloccccccck pendz for u glenn yala @gyb_yala whos dis donut @MattTaylorBCFC dont tweet me ever again u fool glenn yala @gyb_yalall these comments actually are making me laugh #bristolcitytwitterfamily looking out 4 family is a crime now our days i think lool @R_Yala glenn yala @gyb_yala explain this #bristolcitytwitterfamily 5 starts 20 sub apps to many stop and starts #shakingmyhead Ruddock Yala @R_Yala yannick bolasie hands in transfer request !! Sky sports news ! @YannickBolasie *suprised face* @Muzza_19 @Its_Strigo @NikoNjc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yeah but some of our 'fans' aren't doing us any favours on there either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest W-s-m Red Army Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yeah but some of our 'fans' aren't doing us any favours on there either... True!! Maybe when he has gone(if he does go) then feel free to give him shit but not whilst he is still on the books ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 He says that will be amongst the bristol city supporters saturday, now he's in the main stand?????? I take it he will be in the Forest main stand then? Does seem a bit of an idiot mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yeah but some of our 'fans' aren't doing us any favours on there either... Quite embarrassing aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 He doesn't understand the use of hashtags, but after someone glassed Maynard's mum in the face at Coventry - leaving her with 16 stitches - we don't make a good name for ourselves amongst our treatment of players famalams. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Beyond embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 He doesn't understand the use of hashtags, but after someone glassed Maynard's mum in the face at Coventry - leaving her with 16 stitches - we don't make a good name for ourselves amongst our treatment of players famalams. What are you on about? Everyone knows it was his little brother that was molested at Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest W-s-m Red Army Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The guy is acting the clown!! He thinks all this shit will help his bro instead its gonna piss the fans off more!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Quite embarrassing aren't they? It's beyond embarrassing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 What an idiot, the guy sounds like a rotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sbred Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Sick innit blud...... Seeing as his last # is #bristolfans he has wound me up now. Also, he put "if you got Offered a promotion you would take it" I read that as he has Already been offered something, if that's the case I would rather he left now. Just for the fact that I do not think any player should be here if they don't want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Can we transfer some of our "fans" to Palace instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Fans are idiots though . This guy is also a fan remember. Most 'fans' on here are complaining that the club is goin backwards then a young squad player who they all liked this morn they all hate because he 'may' want to leave If the club us indeed goin backwards why persecute him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Can't we just lock these Bolasie threads,I know this is a forum for all things City, but some of the stuff on these threads are just pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Sick innit blud...... Seeing as his last # is #bristolfans he has wound me up now. Also, he put "if you got Offered a promotion you would take it" I read that as he has Already been offered something, if that's the case I would rather he left now. Just for the fact that I do not think any player should be here if they don't want to be. If he has been offered something without the club's knowledge (which the earlier statement suggests) then that's tapping up and illegal so the club should report this to the fa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Calling us all inbred now! glenn yala @gyb_yala3m great support at bristol city me thoughts im happy ive never been to the ground bunch of wrongens inbred idoits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Probably not what you are supposed to say at this point but don't both sides of this twitter "argument" look like perhaps they should have listened a bit more at school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Calling us all inbred now! glenn yala @gyb_yala3m great support at bristol city me thoughts im happy ive never been to the ground bunch of wrongens inbred idoits I've been reading his feed and this shows the bad side of Twitter in these situations. Doing neither side any favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest W-s-m Red Army Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Just a few more........ glenn yala @gyb_yala bed time i reckon these city supporters are kool the ones throwin abuse are the ones that shout boo when the team aint doing well #dropemout glenn yala @gyb_yala at the end of the day iam me init iam not my brother didnt ask any1 to follow me u chat shit il chat shit so uno how it feels glenn yala @gyb_yala great support at bristol city me thoughts im happy ive never been to the ground bunch of wrongens inbred idoits<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Now your taking the piss!!! Really cant see how he is doing his brother any favours here!!! glenn yala @gyb_yala if you was working in any job environment and u got offered a job promotion would you take it or leave it ???? #bristolfan glenn yala @gyb_yala am gonna be on the main stand on Saturday if anyone got and question that their are unsure of come and talk to me cheer COME ON BRISTOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBS15 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 G unit at large as to be expected in good old great Britain....London all over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 This is all a bullshit ploy by the Bolasie's. If Yannick doesn't ask, in writing, for a transfer then the club are liable for the rest of his contract. All this twitter stuff is purely to force a wedge between player and club / supporters meaning the club will flog him without the official request meaning ££££ for the Bolasie family and agent. Put it in writing and **** off if you want to leave Yannick and cut the bull crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Deary me what a person I disagree with that kid is. Yannick can do one I hope he is'nt in squad Saturday and I hope Del gets rid of him asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night84 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 This is really pathetic. Everyone's going on like Bolasie is to us what Van Persie is to Arsenal. Apart from the goal against Coventry I would say he has been largely disappointing and you'd have to look hard for any sort of potential or form. The fact that he got young player of the season was a bit of joke and wouldn't have happened if he didn't score the goal against Coventry. He's 23 and still playing like a headless chicken. Yannick should stay and apply himself and it could work out but unfortunately a London club may have come calling and he'd probably like to get back to his family. Also if he sees that Albert's staying he's probably thinking he's gonna be sitting on the bench. To be honest, he's far from being a major loss to the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So lets try and get a few things cleared up here... according to the agent Bolasie went to see DM and asked to be put on the transfer list. The agent then took that story to Sky Sports who then ran the story. BCFC then made a statement categorically denying they had received a request from the player. Sky Sports then altered their story and/or pulled it. That appears to be all we have been told either by Sky or BCFC. We have to assume, for the sake of the most basic of professionalism, that Sky did receive information from Bolasie's agent sufficient for their editor to run it. The one common denominator here appears to be the agent. So, my questions are these; why would the agent go to sky? To alert other clubs? Hardly because an agent has contacts at many clubs and would simply pick up the phone. The only reason he would go to the press or the media is to force the hand of Bolasie's current employer probably because he/Bolasie feel that BCFC have not been listening. That is the logical explanation of why an agent would seek publicity. However, I do not believe for one moment that City would not listen to any concerns a player or his agent, on his behalf, might have. And why would there be a blitz of these undermining tweets all in the space of a day? As a result we have a player who's apparent brother (do we know it is his brother and not a hoax?) has debased the rumour to his own detriment and that of the player. In return some pretty dumb 'fans' have slated the player for apparently wanting away. To me the entire episode has been a complete and damaging farce initiated by an agent hell bent on causing maximum embarrassment on a club just 2 days before the start of a new season. No matter what has gone on behind closed doors that is the height of unprofessionalism. Bit like that abhorrent transport union threatening a strike the day before the main athletes were due in the days before the Olympics. The other possibility is that instead of being unprofessional the agent is lacking in intelligence. Either way he sinks the profession to a new low, if that were possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night84 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So lets try and get a few things cleared up here... according to the agent Bolasie went to see DM and asked to be put on the transfer list. The agent then took that story to Sky Sports who then ran the story. BCFC then made a statement categorically denying they had received a request from the player. Sky Sports then altered their story and/or pulled it. That appears to be all we have been told either by Sky or BCFC. We have to assume, for the sake of the most basic of professionalism, that Sky did receive information from Bolasie's agent sufficient for their editor to run it. The one common denominator here appears to be the agent. So, my questions are these; why would the agent go to sky? To alert other clubs? Hardly because an agent has contacts at many clubs and would simply pick up the phone. The only reason he would go to the press or the media is to force the hand of Bolasie's current employer probably because he/Bolasie feel that BCFC have not been listening. That is the logical explanation of why an agent would seek publicity. However, I do not believe for one moment that City would not listen to any concerns a player or his agent, on his behalf, might have. And why would there be a blitz of these undermining tweets all in the space of a day? As a result we have a player who's apparent brother (do we know it is his brother and not a hoax?) has debased the rumour to his own detriment and that of the player. In return some pretty dumb 'fans' have slated the player for apparently wanting away. To me the entire episode has been a complete and damaging farce initiated by an agent hell bent on causing maximum embarrassment on a club just 2 days before the start of a new season. No matter what has gone on behind closed doors that is the height of unprofessionalism. Bit like that abhorrent transport union threatening a strike the day before the main athletes were due in the days before the Olympics. The other possibility is that instead of being unprofessional the agent is lacking in intelligence. Either way he sinks the profession to a new low, if that were possible. Well there must be interest from somewhere, probably Palace. His brother alluded to that in his tweets too. The agent will therefor want to gain publicity to start a contract war, either City offer a new contract or Palace come in with a bid and contract for him. Either way the Agent gets a pay increase. This has obviously back fired with Yannick half-wit brother wading into all of this on Twitter. The player would have preferred to have kept quiet and then either outcome is good for him and he doesn't look like a petulant money grabber, that's prbably why he took himself off of twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Olé Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So if I've got this correct from my two 5 minute looks at the forum in the past 24 hours, Yannick gets hammered based on a story about his future in the media, including abuse for which he has closed his Twitter account; this chap who says he's Yannick's brother makes a pretty unsurprising and inocuous remark about not knowing all the facts which seems to me to be a) a pretty reasonable summary of the position at that time and b) an understandable defence of his brother who can't speak for himself without getting into trouble. The result being some City "fans" (presumably the same ones who have wasted no time hounding Yannick) start getting into it with this chap too, who loses his temper and gives as good as he gets (not saying a lot, if I can predict the sort of remarks some "fans" will stoop to) Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet, this is Yannick's brothers fault how? His original remark is one I would have made if I was in his situation, it was inadvisable only in so far as it was always going to "draw the fire" of whichever morons were throwing abuse around on the Internet, but in isolation was actually one of the few things that Twitter does well, it provided some quick and relevant alternative insight, that machine-fed news sources are not going to provide. This remark contained no abuse, it simply reminded certain people about the pretty reliable maxim that there are two sides to any story (or in this case non-story, since abuse was already flying without any official story) and it was a pretty normal defence of a relative. This whole thing is an embarrassment - if there is anything going on the lad himself is obviously ill advised by an agent, nothing new there, but the only visible facts in the meantime are quite how nasty and destructive some of our fans can be. Some people need to take a good hard look at how they behave and if any of them are adults they should be ashamed they have so much time on their hands and so little sense of responsibility. People want to have their cake and eat it. Give some guy abuse for putting his head above the parapet and then come running on OTIB saying Yannick's brother said this, Yannick's brother said that, it's the sort of cowardly nonsense you expect from a 5 year old. Wind someone up then go telling on them or whining about what they said (and I'm not directing this at the OP, its just a general point about how some of our fans behave in their conduct with players, abuse them, then take the higher ground). It's pathetic, it really is, and from that microcosm of the original Yannick's brother remark which was at least insightful as a point of view, we now have all that is wrong with the car crash that is Twitter and footballers/football fans - a total mess. Every bridge burned, a lot of nasty things said, a lot more hate flying around than existed a few hours previously, and absolutely nothing achieved. So question is why do it? It's not constructive and if anything it is destructive. And I'm not overdoing this in relation to all this Twitter nonsense when I say I wonder why people like Steve Lansdown do it. They make a very conscious decision to be constructive about this club and throw money into it, while some no-mark sat in his pants in a dark room at a computer can make an unconscious decision to be destructive and actually cause the club harm. When the club use the word 'ambassadors' they're not being patronising, seeds are sown by how fans deal with others, even in places like Twitter. For sure Yannick right now is history after all this, a few other players may think twice. What I really hate about all this pantomime is some of these superfans who will trot out the "no one bigger than the club" line with a real venom for some players, yet like the hypocrites they are actually do everything to suggest they assume they're bigger than not just the club but all our other fans too, by taking it upon themselves to represent us all with their moronic nasty hate-filled behaviour. Arguing on Twitter does not help the club, period, so if that's your thing, and you're doing it in the name of City or City fans, well then guess what, you're actually precisely the sort of person who does think they're bigger than the club, far more so than any player, because that sort of person actually believes their own personal need to act tough and let off steam and rant and rave at others is, however destructive, far more important than thinking first and doing what might have been in the clubs interests. Honestly, this might seem like an epic but I just despair at these people, I really do. We all moan about our club and it's perpetual failures, but some of us are part of the damn problem. If you've ever heard the expression "crabs in a bucket" you'll know what I mean, some people will keep dragging us back down to the level we're all spending so much time and money trying to get out of. Anyway, I obviously expect this to go completely over the heads of the people it is aimed at, who with no sense of irony will probably within days be on Twitter asking another City player "can I get an RT as I just passed my driving test" or some other identikit pathetic excuse for a bit of self publicity via the role of groupie to a player whose colleague one minute the next you're hurling vitriolic abuse at when you think they don't love your club anymore. What a load of self-serving emotional two-faced garbage. And before anyone accuses me of double standards, full disclosure: I created some comic strips for this forum and a t-shirt about Micky Maynard after he had given up on the pitch, left the club and talked **** about us. None of which Yannick has done, nor his brother, when the abuse started flying..... It seems so patronising to say but please please can some people, and they know who they are, grow up or shut up, FFS. And please leave players alone, it's alright, they'll survive without hearing from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 How anyone still thinks twitter is anything but bad news is beyond me. A shorter and sweeter version of what I just deconstructed - thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Bristol-City_ Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Great post Olé, "Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet" brilliant. You wouldn't even expect it form a 5 year old though, its just absolute idiots chatting out their asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Wendall Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Are we sure this really is his brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Wendall Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 And how anyone can label twitter as bad is beyond me, it's a great discussion tool - unfortunatly there are a vocal minority that can't communicate without being abusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 love how offended people are at bein called inbreds but regularly use it as an unintelligent insult to label gasheads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 #initbruv/blood/geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Ah twitter again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 And how anyone can label twitter as bad is beyond me, it's a great discussion tool - unfortunatly there are a vocal minority that can't communicate without being abusive. Great discussion tool. Do me a favour. I've never read such illiterate rubbish as appears from Twitter at the top of this thread. In fact, I don't even understand what is being written. l the agent is lacking in intelligence. He's not the only one. It appears that the majority of participants in this sorry saga couldn't scrape a brain cell between them. This is a new low for this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 This club is a complete joke sometimes, and by that, I mean the fans.... All the tweets to Yannick is just embarrassing. Any wonder players never want to join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 This club is a complete joke sometimes, and by that, I mean the fans.... All the tweets to Yannick is just embarrassing. Any wonder players never want to join us. unfair to single us out - every club has its fair share of idiots, twitter just gives them a platform and a voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Wendall Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I agree with Badger there. Though I dont think this is just a club problem - seems to me that about 90% of football fans are complete morons who cannot communicate without using foul and abusive language. I mean none of us know what the real story is here - we havent even been confirmed whether this is Yala's brother or not. I find it funny that since the Olympics a lot of us have been saying that footballers should use the Olympians as role models, well I don't think its just the footballers that need to change its the fans to, I really am sick of people who use football as an excuse to behave aggresive and abusive towards everyone and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I agree with Badger there. Though I dont think this is just a club problem - seems to me that about 90% of football fans are complete morons who cannot communicate without using foul and abusive language. I mean none of us know what the real story is here - we havent even been confirmed whether this is Yala's brother or not. I find it funny that since the Olympics a lot of us have been saying that footballers should use the Olympians as role models, well I don't think its just the footballers that need to change its the fans to, I really am sick of people who use football as an excuse to behave aggresive and abusive towards everyone and everything. This. And as for slagging off twitter; morons are morons, no matter what medium they use. I use twitter everyday and it can be funny, informative and interesting. It's not twitter that the problem its the braindead idiots who think that some BS story on Sky Sports gives them license to insult and tear into a young man who plays for our club and who, until now, has never come across as anything other keen to do so. There is no defence for this sort of behaviour in my eyes, other than the person slinging insults has mental health/anger issues. Ashamed to be a city fan if these knuckle-dragging morons are able to call themselves the same. They're an embarrassment to this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Who really gives a ****? Whilst you have things like twitter and Facebook this will happen, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Don't really see the problem here tbh Who actually cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 17, 2012 Admin Share Posted August 17, 2012 So if I've got this correct from my two 5 minute looks at the forum in the past 24 hours, Yannick gets hammered based on a story about his future in the media, including abuse for which he has closed his Twitter account; this chap who says he's Yannick's brother makes a pretty unsurprising and inocuous remark about not knowing all the facts which seems to me to be a) a pretty reasonable summary of the position at that time and b) an understandable defence of his brother who can't speak for himself without getting into trouble. The result being some City "fans" (presumably the same ones who have wasted no time hounding Yannick) start getting into it with this chap too, who loses his temper and gives as good as he gets (not saying a lot, if I can predict the sort of remarks some "fans" will stoop to) Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet, this is Yannick's brothers fault how? His original remark is one I would have made if I was in his situation, it was inadvisable only in so far as it was always going to "draw the fire" of whichever morons were throwing abuse around on the Internet, but in isolation was actually one of the few things that Twitter does well, it provided some quick and relevant alternative insight, that machine-fed news sources are not going to provide. This remark contained no abuse, it simply reminded certain people about the pretty reliable maxim that there are two sides to any story (or in this case non-story, since abuse was already flying without any official story) and it was a pretty normal defence of a relative. This whole thing is an embarrassment - if there is anything going on the lad himself is obviously ill advised by an agent, nothing new there, but the only visible facts in the meantime are quite how nasty and destructive some of our fans can be. Some people need to take a good hard look at how they behave and if any of them are adults they should be ashamed they have so much time on their hands and so little sense of responsibility. People want to have their cake and eat it. Give some guy abuse for putting his head above the parapet and then come running on OTIB saying Yannick's brother said this, Yannick's brother said that, it's the sort of cowardly nonsense you expect from a 5 year old. Wind someone up then go telling on them or whining about what they said (and I'm not directing this at the OP, its just a general point about how some of our fans behave in their conduct with players, abuse them, then take the higher ground). It's pathetic, it really is, and from that microcosm of the original Yannick's brother remark which was at least insightful as a point of view, we now have all that is wrong with the car crash that is Twitter and footballers/football fans - a total mess. Every bridge burned, a lot of nasty things said, a lot more hate flying around than existed a few hours previously, and absolutely nothing achieved. So question is why do it? It's not constructive and if anything it is destructive. And I'm not overdoing this in relation to all this Twitter nonsense when I say I wonder why people like Steve Lansdown do it. They make a very conscious decision to be constructive about this club and throw money into it, while some no-mark sat in his pants in a dark room at a computer can make an unconscious decision to be destructive and actually cause the club harm. When the club use the word 'ambassadors' they're not being patronising, seeds are sown by how fans deal with others, even in places like Twitter. For sure Yannick right now is history after all this, a few other players may think twice. What I really hate about all this pantomime is some of these superfans who will trot out the "no one bigger than the club" line with a real venom for some players, yet like the hypocrites they are actually do everything to suggest they assume they're bigger than not just the club but all our other fans too, by taking it upon themselves to represent us all with their moronic nasty hate-filled behaviour. Arguing on Twitter does not help the club, period, so if that's your thing, and you're doing it in the name of City or City fans, well then guess what, you're actually precisely the sort of person who does think they're bigger than the club, far more so than any player, because that sort of person actually believes their own personal need to act tough and let off steam and rant and rave at others is, however destructive, far more important than thinking first and doing what might have been in the clubs interests. Honestly, this might seem like an epic but I just despair at these people, I really do. We all moan about our club and it's perpetual failures, but some of us are part of the damn problem. If you've ever heard the expression "crabs in a bucket" you'll know what I mean, some people will keep dragging us back down to the level we're all spending so much time and money trying to get out of. Anyway, I obviously expect this to go completely over the heads of the people it is aimed at, who with no sense of irony will probably within days be on Twitter asking another City player "can I get an RT as I just passed my driving test" or some other identikit pathetic excuse for a bit of self publicity via the role of groupie to a player whose colleague one minute the next you're hurling vitriolic abuse at when you think they don't love your club anymore. What a load of self-serving emotional two-faced garbage. And before anyone accuses me of double standards, full disclosure: I created some comic strips for this forum and a t-shirt about Micky Maynard after he had given up on the pitch, left the club and talked **** about us. None of which Yannick has done, nor his brother, when the abuse started flying..... It seems so patronising to say but please please can some people, and they know who they are, grow up or shut up, FFS. And please leave players alone, it's alright, they'll survive without hearing from you. A very salient post Olé but you need to add a "tl; dr" as the people who you aim this at aren't going to read it due to its length or understand it if they did due to its use of multi-syllable words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalonred Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 As i see it.... He's been talking to his housemate Carayol and now sees the kind of money he could be earning if he pushed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Don't really see the problem here tbh Whoosh! Rome is burning here! Go on! Challenge yourself! Read Ole's post; it makes real sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So if I've got this correct from my two 5 minute looks at the forum in the past 24 hours, Yannick gets hammered based on a story about his future in the media, including abuse for which he has closed his Twitter account; this chap who says he's Yannick's brother makes a pretty unsurprising and inocuous remark about not knowing all the facts which seems to me to be a) a pretty reasonable summary of the position at that time and b) an understandable defence of his brother who can't speak for himself without getting into trouble. The result being some City "fans" (presumably the same ones who have wasted no time hounding Yannick) start getting into it with this chap too, who loses his temper and gives as good as he gets (not saying a lot, if I can predict the sort of remarks some "fans" will stoop to) Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet, this is Yannick's brothers fault how? His original remark is one I would have made if I was in his situation, it was inadvisable only in so far as it was always going to "draw the fire" of whichever morons were throwing abuse around on the Internet, but in isolation was actually one of the few things that Twitter does well, it provided some quick and relevant alternative insight, that machine-fed news sources are not going to provide. This remark contained no abuse, it simply reminded certain people about the pretty reliable maxim that there are two sides to any story (or in this case non-story, since abuse was already flying without any official story) and it was a pretty normal defence of a relative. This whole thing is an embarrassment - if there is anything going on the lad himself is obviously ill advised by an agent, nothing new there, but the only visible facts in the meantime are quite how nasty and destructive some of our fans can be. Some people need to take a good hard look at how they behave and if any of them are adults they should be ashamed they have so much time on their hands and so little sense of responsibility. People want to have their cake and eat it. Give some guy abuse for putting his head above the parapet and then come running on OTIB saying Yannick's brother said this, Yannick's brother said that, it's the sort of cowardly nonsense you expect from a 5 year old. Wind someone up then go telling on them or whining about what they said (and I'm not directing this at the OP, its just a general point about how some of our fans behave in their conduct with players, abuse them, then take the higher ground). It's pathetic, it really is, and from that microcosm of the original Yannick's brother remark which was at least insightful as a point of view, we now have all that is wrong with the car crash that is Twitter and footballers/football fans - a total mess. Every bridge burned, a lot of nasty things said, a lot more hate flying around than existed a few hours previously, and absolutely nothing achieved. So question is why do it? It's not constructive and if anything it is destructive. And I'm not overdoing this in relation to all this Twitter nonsense when I say I wonder why people like Steve Lansdown do it. They make a very conscious decision to be constructive about this club and throw money into it, while some no-mark sat in his pants in a dark room at a computer can make an unconscious decision to be destructive and actually cause the club harm. When the club use the word 'ambassadors' they're not being patronising, seeds are sown by how fans deal with others, even in places like Twitter. For sure Yannick right now is history after all this, a few other players may think twice. What I really hate about all this pantomime is some of these superfans who will trot out the "no one bigger than the club" line with a real venom for some players, yet like the hypocrites they are actually do everything to suggest they assume they're bigger than not just the club but all our other fans too, by taking it upon themselves to represent us all with their moronic nasty hate-filled behaviour. Arguing on Twitter does not help the club, period, so if that's your thing, and you're doing it in the name of City or City fans, well then guess what, you're actually precisely the sort of person who does think they're bigger than the club, far more so than any player, because that sort of person actually believes their own personal need to act tough and let off steam and rant and rave at others is, however destructive, far more important than thinking first and doing what might have been in the clubs interests. Honestly, this might seem like an epic but I just despair at these people, I really do. We all moan about our club and it's perpetual failures, but some of us are part of the damn problem. If you've ever heard the expression "crabs in a bucket" you'll know what I mean, some people will keep dragging us back down to the level we're all spending so much time and money trying to get out of. Anyway, I obviously expect this to go completely over the heads of the people it is aimed at, who with no sense of irony will probably within days be on Twitter asking another City player "can I get an RT as I just passed my driving test" or some other identikit pathetic excuse for a bit of self publicity via the role of groupie to a player whose colleague one minute the next you're hurling vitriolic abuse at when you think they don't love your club anymore. What a load of self-serving emotional two-faced garbage. And before anyone accuses me of double standards, full disclosure: I created some comic strips for this forum and a t-shirt about Micky Maynard after he had given up on the pitch, left the club and talked **** about us. None of which Yannick has done, nor his brother, when the abuse started flying..... It seems so patronising to say but please please can some people, and they know who they are, grow up or shut up, FFS. And please leave players alone, it's alright, they'll survive without hearing from you. one of the best posts I have ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So if I've got this correct from my two 5 minute looks at the forum in the past 24 hours, Yannick gets hammered based on a story about his future in the media, including abuse for which he has closed his Twitter account; this chap who says he's Yannick's brother makes a pretty unsurprising and inocuous remark about not knowing all the facts which seems to me to be a) a pretty reasonable summary of the position at that time and b) an understandable defence of his brother who can't speak for himself without getting into trouble. The result being some City "fans" (presumably the same ones who have wasted no time hounding Yannick) start getting into it with this chap too, who loses his temper and gives as good as he gets (not saying a lot, if I can predict the sort of remarks some "fans" will stoop to) Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet, this is Yannick's brothers fault how? His original remark is one I would have made if I was in his situation, it was inadvisable only in so far as it was always going to "draw the fire" of whichever morons were throwing abuse around on the Internet, but in isolation was actually one of the few things that Twitter does well, it provided some quick and relevant alternative insight, that machine-fed news sources are not going to provide. This remark contained no abuse, it simply reminded certain people about the pretty reliable maxim that there are two sides to any story (or in this case non-story, since abuse was already flying without any official story) and it was a pretty normal defence of a relative. This whole thing is an embarrassment - if there is anything going on the lad himself is obviously ill advised by an agent, nothing new there, but the only visible facts in the meantime are quite how nasty and destructive some of our fans can be. Some people need to take a good hard look at how they behave and if any of them are adults they should be ashamed they have so much time on their hands and so little sense of responsibility. People want to have their cake and eat it. Give some guy abuse for putting his head above the parapet and then come running on OTIB saying Yannick's brother said this, Yannick's brother said that, it's the sort of cowardly nonsense you expect from a 5 year old. Wind someone up then go telling on them or whining about what they said (and I'm not directing this at the OP, its just a general point about how some of our fans behave in their conduct with players, abuse them, then take the higher ground). It's pathetic, it really is, and from that microcosm of the original Yannick's brother remark which was at least insightful as a point of view, we now have all that is wrong with the car crash that is Twitter and footballers/football fans - a total mess. Every bridge burned, a lot of nasty things said, a lot more hate flying around than existed a few hours previously, and absolutely nothing achieved. So question is why do it? It's not constructive and if anything it is destructive. And I'm not overdoing this in relation to all this Twitter nonsense when I say I wonder why people like Steve Lansdown do it. They make a very conscious decision to be constructive about this club and throw money into it, while some no-mark sat in his pants in a dark room at a computer can make an unconscious decision to be destructive and actually cause the club harm. When the club use the word 'ambassadors' they're not being patronising, seeds are sown by how fans deal with others, even in places like Twitter. For sure Yannick right now is history after all this, a few other players may think twice. What I really hate about all this pantomime is some of these superfans who will trot out the "no one bigger than the club" line with a real venom for some players, yet like the hypocrites they are actually do everything to suggest they assume they're bigger than not just the club but all our other fans too, by taking it upon themselves to represent us all with their moronic nasty hate-filled behaviour. Arguing on Twitter does not help the club, period, so if that's your thing, and you're doing it in the name of City or City fans, well then guess what, you're actually precisely the sort of person who does think they're bigger than the club, far more so than any player, because that sort of person actually believes their own personal need to act tough and let off steam and rant and rave at others is, however destructive, far more important than thinking first and doing what might have been in the clubs interests. Honestly, this might seem like an epic but I just despair at these people, I really do. We all moan about our club and it's perpetual failures, but some of us are part of the damn problem. If you've ever heard the expression "crabs in a bucket" you'll know what I mean, some people will keep dragging us back down to the level we're all spending so much time and money trying to get out of. Anyway, I obviously expect this to go completely over the heads of the people it is aimed at, who with no sense of irony will probably within days be on Twitter asking another City player "can I get an RT as I just passed my driving test" or some other identikit pathetic excuse for a bit of self publicity via the role of groupie to a player whose colleague one minute the next you're hurling vitriolic abuse at when you think they don't love your club anymore. What a load of self-serving emotional two-faced garbage. And before anyone accuses me of double standards, full disclosure: I created some comic strips for this forum and a t-shirt about Micky Maynard after he had given up on the pitch, left the club and talked **** about us. None of which Yannick has done, nor his brother, when the abuse started flying..... It seems so patronising to say but please please can some people, and they know who they are, grow up or shut up, FFS. And please leave players alone, it's alright, they'll survive without hearing from you. Nice one Rob. If I'd read this in a quality national daily, I wouldn't have been surprised. You've hit on a much broader topic here: the damage that the self-appointed 'super fan' is doing to football. Unfortunately it's precisely those people who will read your posting and dismiss it (or not understand it) and then carry on as though nothing happens. I think I only come here now out of a sense of morbid fascination: it's like a reality TV show that you pretend to take a serious interest in, but actually, if you were honest, you're only looking at the freaks and the weirdos. This forum in itself is becoming something of a freak-show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex#40 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 As i see it.... He's been talking to his housemate Carayol and now sees the kind of money he could be earning if he pushed it. Exactly my take on it. His best mate has had a move, probably got some cash and a payrise and Yannick fancies a bit of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 it's like a reality TV show that you pretend to take a serious interest in, but actually, if you were honest, you're only looking at the freaks and the weirdos. This forum in itself is becoming something of a freak-show. Agreed; on there the freaks are only really damaging themselves. On here, the freaks are in danger of taking over the asylum. It is damaging our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 As i see it.... He's been talking to his housemate Carayol and now sees the kind of money he could be earning if he pushed it. Good point. Comparing wage slips. Yannick 2k a week? Carayol 8k a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Good point. Comparing wage slips. Yannick 2k a week? Carayol 8k a week? If palace were to be the club of choice / interested, I'd be surprised if they could offer 2k let alone more. Would Carayol really be on 8k a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So if I've got this correct from my two 5 minute looks at the forum in the past 24 hours, Yannick gets hammered based on a story about his future in the media, including abuse for which he has closed his Twitter account; this chap who says he's Yannick's brother makes a pretty unsurprising and inocuous remark about not knowing all the facts which seems to me to be a) a pretty reasonable summary of the position at that time and b) an understandable defence of his brother who can't speak for himself without getting into trouble. The result being some City "fans" (presumably the same ones who have wasted no time hounding Yannick) start getting into it with this chap too, who loses his temper and gives as good as he gets (not saying a lot, if I can predict the sort of remarks some "fans" will stoop to) Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet, this is Yannick's brothers fault how? His original remark is one I would have made if I was in his situation, it was inadvisable only in so far as it was always going to "draw the fire" of whichever morons were throwing abuse around on the Internet, but in isolation was actually one of the few things that Twitter does well, it provided some quick and relevant alternative insight, that machine-fed news sources are not going to provide. This remark contained no abuse, it simply reminded certain people about the pretty reliable maxim that there are two sides to any story (or in this case non-story, since abuse was already flying without any official story) and it was a pretty normal defence of a relative. This whole thing is an embarrassment - if there is anything going on the lad himself is obviously ill advised by an agent, nothing new there, but the only visible facts in the meantime are quite how nasty and destructive some of our fans can be. Some people need to take a good hard look at how they behave and if any of them are adults they should be ashamed they have so much time on their hands and so little sense of responsibility. People want to have their cake and eat it. Give some guy abuse for putting his head above the parapet and then come running on OTIB saying Yannick's brother said this, Yannick's brother said that, it's the sort of cowardly nonsense you expect from a 5 year old. Wind someone up then go telling on them or whining about what they said (and I'm not directing this at the OP, its just a general point about how some of our fans behave in their conduct with players, abuse them, then take the higher ground). It's pathetic, it really is, and from that microcosm of the original Yannick's brother remark which was at least insightful as a point of view, we now have all that is wrong with the car crash that is Twitter and footballers/football fans - a total mess. Every bridge burned, a lot of nasty things said, a lot more hate flying around than existed a few hours previously, and absolutely nothing achieved. So question is why do it? It's not constructive and if anything it is destructive. And I'm not overdoing this in relation to all this Twitter nonsense when I say I wonder why people like Steve Lansdown do it. They make a very conscious decision to be constructive about this club and throw money into it, while some no-mark sat in his pants in a dark room at a computer can make an unconscious decision to be destructive and actually cause the club harm. When the club use the word 'ambassadors' they're not being patronising, seeds are sown by how fans deal with others, even in places like Twitter. For sure Yannick right now is history after all this, a few other players may think twice. What I really hate about all this pantomime is some of these superfans who will trot out the "no one bigger than the club" line with a real venom for some players, yet like the hypocrites they are actually do everything to suggest they assume they're bigger than not just the club but all our other fans too, by taking it upon themselves to represent us all with their moronic nasty hate-filled behaviour. Arguing on Twitter does not help the club, period, so if that's your thing, and you're doing it in the name of City or City fans, well then guess what, you're actually precisely the sort of person who does think they're bigger than the club, far more so than any player, because that sort of person actually believes their own personal need to act tough and let off steam and rant and rave at others is, however destructive, far more important than thinking first and doing what might have been in the clubs interests. Honestly, this might seem like an epic but I just despair at these people, I really do. We all moan about our club and it's perpetual failures, but some of us are part of the damn problem. If you've ever heard the exp<b></b>ression "crabs in a bucket" you'll know what I mean, some people will keep dragging us back down to the level we're all spending so much time and money trying to get out of. Anyway, I obviously expect this to go completely over the heads of the people it is aimed at, who with no sense of irony will probably within days be on Twitter asking another City player "can I get an RT as I just passed my driving test" or some other identikit pathetic excuse for a bit of self publicity via the role of groupie to a player whose colleague one minute the next you're hurling vitriolic abuse at when you think they don't love your club anymore. What a load of self-serving emotional two-faced garbage. And before anyone accuses me of double standards, full disclosure: I created some comic strips for this forum and a t-shirt about Micky Maynard after he had given up on the pitch, left the club and talked **** about us. None of which Yannick has done, nor his brother, when the abuse started flying..... It seems so patronising to say but please please can some people, and they know who they are, grow up or shut up, FFS. And please leave players alone, it's alright, they'll survive without hearing from you. Absolute nonsense. What do u suggest? Wrap them up in cotton wool to protect them from the barrage of abuse that might hurt their, very deep pocketed, feelings?? He is on a social media site, his agent has clearly had a phone conversation with sky sports as quoted in the second story. Instead of completely dispelling and damning the rumours, he just goes and deletes his account without a word......not the actions of a man who wants or is able to state the stories as false. All this talk of embarrassing fans, well what do you expect? This guy isn't Adomah, he isn't a top rate Champoknship footballer destined for bigger things.......he is a 2nd rate impact sub who bar 20 minutes at Coventry has done sweet **** all.......bad advice from an agent or not, he is 23, not 18, he isn't a little sheep anymore, (well shouldn't be). Unfortunately because he has done so little for bristol city, the reaction is going to be understandably negative, especially through the means it's happened, and that gets people's backs up If Adomah, Elliot, Skuse, Fontaine etc handed in a transfer request 1) would be done like this? No 2) would they be so negative jumped on? No. The guy has done so little for us to warrant a first team place, in fact he has done next to nothing yet obviously wants to move on. Get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Absolute nonsense. What do u suggest? Wrap them up in cotton wool to protect them from the barrage of abuse that might hurt their, very deep pocketed, feelings?? He is on a social media site, his agent has clearly had a phone conversation with sky sports as quoted in the second story. Instead of completely dispelling and damning the rumours, he just goes and deletes his account without a word......not the actions of a man who wants or is able to state the stories as false. All this talk of embarrassing fans, well what do you expect? This guy isn't Adomah, he isn't a top rate Champoknship footballer destined for bigger things.......he is a 2nd rate impact sub who bar 20 minutes at Coventry has done sweet **** all.......bad advice from an agent or not, he is 23, not 18, he isn't a little sheep anymore, (well shouldn't be). Unfortunately because he has done so little for bristol city, the reaction is going to be understandably negative, especially through the means it's happened, and that gets people's backs up If Adomah, Elliot, Skuse, Fontaine etc handed in a transfer request 1) would be done like this? No 2) would they be so negative jumped on? No. The guy has done so little for us to warrant a first team place, in fact he has done next to nothing yet obviously wants to move on. Get rid. Q.E.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So if I've got this correct from my two 5 minute looks at the forum in the past 24 hours, Yannick gets hammered based on a story about his future in the media, including abuse for which he has closed his Twitter account; this chap who says he's Yannick's brother makes a pretty unsurprising and inocuous remark about not knowing all the facts which seems to me to be a) a pretty reasonable summary of the position at that time and b) an understandable defence of his brother who can't speak for himself without getting into trouble. The result being some City "fans" (presumably the same ones who have wasted no time hounding Yannick) start getting into it with this chap too, who loses his temper and gives as good as he gets (not saying a lot, if I can predict the sort of remarks some "fans" will stoop to) Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet, this is Yannick's brothers fault how? His original remark is one I would have made if I was in his situation, it was inadvisable only in so far as it was always going to "draw the fire" of whichever morons were throwing abuse around on the Internet, but in isolation was actually one of the few things that Twitter does well, it provided some quick and relevant alternative insight, that machine-fed news sources are not going to provide. This remark contained no abuse, it simply reminded certain people about the pretty reliable maxim that there are two sides to any story (or in this case non-story, since abuse was already flying without any official story) and it was a pretty normal defence of a relative. This whole thing is an embarrassment - if there is anything going on the lad himself is obviously ill advised by an agent, nothing new there, but the only visible facts in the meantime are quite how nasty and destructive some of our fans can be. Some people need to take a good hard look at how they behave and if any of them are adults they should be ashamed they have so much time on their hands and so little sense of responsibility. People want to have their cake and eat it. Give some guy abuse for putting his head above the parapet and then come running on OTIB saying Yannick's brother said this, Yannick's brother said that, it's the sort of cowardly nonsense you expect from a 5 year old. Wind someone up then go telling on them or whining about what they said (and I'm not directing this at the OP, its just a general point about how some of our fans behave in their conduct with players, abuse them, then take the higher ground). It's pathetic, it really is, and from that microcosm of the original Yannick's brother remark which was at least insightful as a point of view, we now have all that is wrong with the car crash that is Twitter and footballers/football fans - a total mess. Every bridge burned, a lot of nasty things said, a lot more hate flying around than existed a few hours previously, and absolutely nothing achieved. So question is why do it? It's not constructive and if anything it is destructive. And I'm not overdoing this in relation to all this Twitter nonsense when I say I wonder why people like Steve Lansdown do it. They make a very conscious decision to be constructive about this club and throw money into it, while some no-mark sat in his pants in a dark room at a computer can make an unconscious decision to be destructive and actually cause the club harm. When the club use the word 'ambassadors' they're not being patronising, seeds are sown by how fans deal with others, even in places like Twitter. For sure Yannick right now is history after all this, a few other players may think twice. What I really hate about all this pantomime is some of these superfans who will trot out the "no one bigger than the club" line with a real venom for some players, yet like the hypocrites they are actually do everything to suggest they assume they're bigger than not just the club but all our other fans too, by taking it upon themselves to represent us all with their moronic nasty hate-filled behaviour. Arguing on Twitter does not help the club, period, so if that's your thing, and you're doing it in the name of City or City fans, well then guess what, you're actually precisely the sort of person who does think they're bigger than the club, far more so than any player, because that sort of person actually believes their own personal need to act tough and let off steam and rant and rave at others is, however destructive, far more important than thinking first and doing what might have been in the clubs interests. Honestly, this might seem like an epic but I just despair at these people, I really do. We all moan about our club and it's perpetual failures, but some of us are part of the damn problem. If you've ever heard the expression "crabs in a bucket" you'll know what I mean, some people will keep dragging us back down to the level we're all spending so much time and money trying to get out of. Anyway, I obviously expect this to go completely over the heads of the people it is aimed at, who with no sense of irony will probably within days be on Twitter asking another City player "can I get an RT as I just passed my driving test" or some other identikit pathetic excuse for a bit of self publicity via the role of groupie to a player whose colleague one minute the next you're hurling vitriolic abuse at when you think they don't love your club anymore. What a load of self-serving emotional two-faced garbage. And before anyone accuses me of double standards, full disclosure: I created some comic strips for this forum and a t-shirt about Micky Maynard after he had given up on the pitch, left the club and talked **** about us. None of which Yannick has done, nor his brother, when the abuse started flying..... It seems so patronising to say but please please can some people, and they know who they are, grow up or shut up, FFS. And please leave players alone, it's alright, they'll survive without hearing from you. Oh come on Ole, anybody who reads this forum knows what an incredibly thoughtful and intelligent poster you are. But this is far more simple than you portray it. Skysports put out a story about Bolaisie that is allegedly confirmed by his agent the club categorically deny this story and the most important person in the story the player himself says **** all, no admission, no denial, exactly what sort of reaction do you expect especially on the eve of a new season and coming so close to another embarrassing cup exit, all he had to do was/is confirm or deny it's that simple, his silence speaks volumes in my book and whatever guff the player and/or the club come up with now he is damaged goods IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Oh come on Ole, anybody who reads this forum knows what an incredibly thoughtful and intelligent poster you are. But this is far more simple than you portray it. Skysports put out a story about Bolaisie that is allegedly confirmed by his agent the club categorically deny this story and the most important person in the story the player himself says **** all, no admission, no denial, exactly what sort of reaction do you expect especially on the eve of a new season and coming so close to another embarrassing cup exit, all he had to do was/is confirm or deny it's that simple, his silence speaks volumes in my book and whatever guff the player and/or the club come up with now he is damaged goods IMO. The club has denied it. Why does the player have to get involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon atyeo is my dad Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So if I've got this correct from my two 5 minute looks at the forum in the past 24 hours, Yannick gets hammered based on a story about his future in the media, including abuse for which he has closed his Twitter account; this chap who says he's Yannick's brother makes a pretty unsurprising and inocuous remark about not knowing all the facts which seems to me to be a) a pretty reasonable summary of the position at that time and b) an understandable defence of his brother who can't speak for himself without getting into trouble. The result being some City "fans" (presumably the same ones who have wasted no time hounding Yannick) start getting into it with this chap too, who loses his temper and gives as good as he gets (not saying a lot, if I can predict the sort of remarks some "fans" will stoop to) Putting aside the fact that NONE of the people involved should ever have been given access to the Internet, this is Yannick's brothers fault how? His original remark is one I would have made if I was in his situation, it was inadvisable only in so far as it was always going to "draw the fire" of whichever morons were throwing abuse around on the Internet, but in isolation was actually one of the few things that Twitter does well, it provided some quick and relevant alternative insight, that machine-fed news sources are not going to provide. This remark contained no abuse, it simply reminded certain people about the pretty reliable maxim that there are two sides to any story (or in this case non-story, since abuse was already flying without any official story) and it was a pretty normal defence of a relative. This whole thing is an embarrassment - if there is anything going on the lad himself is obviously ill advised by an agent, nothing new there, but the only visible facts in the meantime are quite how nasty and destructive some of our fans can be. Some people need to take a good hard look at how they behave and if any of them are adults they should be ashamed they have so much time on their hands and so little sense of responsibility. People want to have their cake and eat it. Give some guy abuse for putting his head above the parapet and then come running on OTIB saying Yannick's brother said this, Yannick's brother said that, it's the sort of cowardly nonsense you expect from a 5 year old. Wind someone up then go telling on them or whining about what they said (and I'm not directing this at the OP, its just a general point about how some of our fans behave in their conduct with players, abuse them, then take the higher ground). It's pathetic, it really is, and from that microcosm of the original Yannick's brother remark which was at least insightful as a point of view, we now have all that is wrong with the car crash that is Twitter and footballers/football fans - a total mess. Every bridge burned, a lot of nasty things said, a lot more hate flying around than existed a few hours previously, and absolutely nothing achieved. So question is why do it? It's not constructive and if anything it is destructive. And I'm not overdoing this in relation to all this Twitter nonsense when I say I wonder why people like Steve Lansdown do it. They make a very conscious decision to be constructive about this club and throw money into it, while some no-mark sat in his pants in a dark room at a computer can make an unconscious decision to be destructive and actually cause the club harm. When the club use the word 'ambassadors' they're not being patronising, seeds are sown by how fans deal with others, even in places like Twitter. For sure Yannick right now is history after all this, a few other players may think twice. What I really hate about all this pantomime is some of these superfans who will trot out the "no one bigger than the club" line with a real venom for some players, yet like the hypocrites they are actually do everything to suggest they assume they're bigger than not just the club but all our other fans too, by taking it upon themselves to represent us all with their moronic nasty hate-filled behaviour. Arguing on Twitter does not help the club, period, so if that's your thing, and you're doing it in the name of City or City fans, well then guess what, you're actually precisely the sort of person who does think they're bigger than the club, far more so than any player, because that sort of person actually believes their own personal need to act tough and let off steam and rant and rave at others is, however destructive, far more important than thinking first and doing what might have been in the clubs interests. Honestly, this might seem like an epic but I just despair at these people, I really do. We all moan about our club and it's perpetual failures, but some of us are part of the damn problem. If you've ever heard the exp<b></b>ression "crabs in a bucket" you'll know what I mean, some people will keep dragging us back down to the level we're all spending so much time and money trying to get out of. Anyway, I obviously expect this to go completely over the heads of the people it is aimed at, who with no sense of irony will probably within days be on Twitter asking another City player "can I get an RT as I just passed my driving test" or some other identikit pathetic excuse for a bit of self publicity via the role of groupie to a player whose colleague one minute the next you're hurling vitriolic abuse at when you think they don't love your club anymore. What a load of self-serving emotional two-faced garbage. And before anyone accuses me of double standards, full disclosure: I created some comic strips for this forum and a t-shirt about Micky Maynard after he had given up on the pitch, left the club and talked **** about us. None of which Yannick has done, nor his brother, when the abuse started flying..... It seems so patronising to say but please please can some people, and they know who they are, grow up or shut up, FFS. And please leave players alone, it's alright, they'll survive without hearing from you. Bump!!!!!! Spot on!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The club has denied it. Why does the player have to get involved? Because it is ALL about him, if it's true MAN up and admit it, if it's untrue MAN up and deny it, oh yes and sack his agent for lying to the media, a real MAN would want to put his side and clear up any ambiguities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire Dastardly Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Quite embarrassing aren't they? Shameful is the word I used yesterday and I stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 All this Tw @ tter crap just goes to show what sort of person uses that form of multimedia, mainly 15yo keyboard warriors who wouldn't say anything to him face to face. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Red Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Absolute nonsense. What do u suggest? Wrap them up in cotton wool to protect them from the barrage of abuse that might hurt their, very deep pocketed, feelings?? He is on a social media site, his agent has clearly had a phone conversation with sky sports as quoted in the second story. Instead of completely dispelling and damning the rumours, he just goes and deletes his account without a word......not the actions of a man who wants or is able to state the stories as false. All this talk of embarrassing fans, well what do you expect? This guy isn't Adomah, he isn't a top rate Champoknship footballer destined for bigger things.......he is a 2nd rate impact sub who bar 20 minutes at Coventry has done sweet **** all.......bad advice from an agent or not, he is 23, not 18, he isn't a little sheep anymore, (well shouldn't be). Unfortunately because he has done so little for bristol city, the reaction is going to be understandably negative, especially through the means it's happened, and that gets people's backs up If Adomah, Elliot, Skuse, Fontaine etc handed in a transfer request 1) would be done like this? No 2) would they be so negative jumped on? No. The guy has done so little for us to warrant a first team place, in fact he has done next to nothing yet obviously wants to move on. Get rid. WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING HE HAS DELETED HIS ACCOUNT???? HE HASN'T!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 17, 2012 Admin Share Posted August 17, 2012 The club has denied it. Why does the player have to get involved? I presume he is getting involved anyway. Someone he employs (his agent) has gone to the media firstly to give them an anonymous heads-up that he wants to leave & then to inform the media that BCFC is lying by denying Yannick has requested to leave. He'd only have to come out and say something if his paid representative was lying himself. The only conclusion to draw from this is that - Yannick has definitely requested a move & BCFC are lying (or ignorant of a conversation between YB & DM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 17, 2012 Admin Share Posted August 17, 2012 WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING HE HAS DELETED HIS ACCOUNT???? HE HASN'T!!! It will look that way to people Yannick has blocked. ie those abusing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 All this Tw @ tter crap just goes to show what sort of person uses that form of multimedia, mainly 15yo keyboard warriors who wouldn't say anything to him face to face. BCAGFC Utter nonsense. Twitter is full of intelligent, considered opinion from intelligent, insightful individuals. It's also full of the aforementioned keyboard warriors, but that's true of any medium. You can't blame the medium for the individuals who choose to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Bolasie is in the squad for tomorrows game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Utter nonsense. Twitter is full of intelligent, considered opinion from intelligent, insightful individuals. It's also full of the aforementioned keyboard warriors, but that's true of any medium. You can't blame the medium for the individuals who choose to use it. That may be the case in anything non football related but when it comes to football matters, it is the worst form of media, 12yo kids claiming to be football agents, people who say they are 'ITK' but have no idea what's going on, players who really should know better (Rio Ferdinand) & finally the morons who abuse players. No other form of media has that range of idiots.....not even Facebook....and that is saying something. BCAGFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie_Turner Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Quite embarrassing aren't they? What !!? You're the embarrassing one, you're reading what his numbskull brother is writing and assuming all his comments are because people were abusing Yan. On the contrary - I made comments to him saying I'd met Yan a couple of times and what a lovely guy he is. My comments were that people were swaying Yan to move - and that it's money behind it. I also said in my opinion agents are scumbags that turn people's heads ensuring there's not an ounce of loyalty. If that's embarrassing then very sorry I'm sure !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 That may be the case in anything non football related but when it comes to football matters, it is the worst form of media, 12yo kids claiming to be football agents, people who say they are 'ITK' but have no idea what's going on, players who really should know better (Rio Ferdinand) & finally the morons who abuse players. No other form of media has that range of idiots.....not even Facebook....and that is saying something. BCAGFC Again, untrue. The football writers and journalists on Twitter are extremely interesting and informative. I'd never have encountered blogs such as Zonal Marking and Swiss Ramble, or publications like the Blizzard without it. Like anything, it's what you make of it and who you choose to listen to that will determine its value. There are thousands of interesting people who will give you insight and opinion you otherwise wouldn't have considered. There are also a lot of idiots but it's up to individuals to decide whether they engage with them or not. There is a problem, because it's opened a channel which allows the idiots to send abuse at one another 24/7 if they so wish, whereas previously a footballer only had to worry about what he heard during matches and occasionally in the street. Society and the law haven't worked out what to do about that yet, but it's important to understand that Twitter is not the cause of the problem, merely the conduit by which it has been exposed. If it were closed down then, yes, the problem would lessen, but surely the answer is to look at why people feel they can say these vile things in the first place? I'd also contend that it's not just children. Twitter may attract the younger members of society more than the elder but I've heard some awful things shouted at players from the stands by men who really should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 What !!? You're the embarrassing one, you're reading what his numbskull brother is writing and assuming all his comments are because people were abusing Yan. On the contrary - I made comments to him saying I'd met Yan a couple of times and what a lovely guy he is. My comments were that people were swaying Yan to move - and that it's money behind it. I also said in my opinion agents are scumbags that turn people's heads ensuring there's not an ounce of loyalty. If that's embarrassing then very sorry I'm sure !!!! I don't know what in particular has caused you to get sand in your vagina, but self appointed superfans giving Bolasie and his brother abuse on twitter on the basis of hearsay are definitely embarrassing. If you're one of them then yes, you're embarrassing us. If you're not then why have you taken such offense? For example we've got one embarrassing loser calling his brother a knob, a nobody, moron, typical shit stirrer and telling him to grow a pair, shut up etc. The irony seems to escape this moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sidebet Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Does anyone know how old this joker is?? Sounds to be 13 maximum!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Wendall Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The guy who used #daft**** hashtag actually made a very valid point to the lad we think is his brother, then lost all credibility with the hashtag! I'm gonna ask again - how do we know this is his brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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