Maltshoveller Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 He's not played a game for Liverpool where he hasn't dived atleast 3 times I don't think. Is that a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 So could Young of stayed on his feet then? I think so, he's got a history of diving aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Is that a fact? No but I am very confident that it's not too far off. Why does every manager slate him for diving? It's because he is the biggest culprit. He's known for diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Typical, lets not talk about the good stuff in the games, there was 2 good games today. Lets just talk about the bloody ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Now tell me that isn't a dive? That is clearly a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Now tell me that isn't a dive? That is clearly a dive. He was clearly caught yes he went to ground but every bloody player does it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 The fact that that contact was on Torres' ankle, and he was holding his knee on the floor in false pain, that's simulation, and a yellow card. Could give a freekick as well, which sounds stupid and they would never do it, but still. Torres should have gone for the first one anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 This is why people are getting bored with football. Two good games but lets focus on the ref. what about the good football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 If a player attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation). Torres got brushed on his shin but was holding his knee. Simulation, booking and the correct decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 If a player attempts to deceive the referee by feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled (simulation). Torres got brushed on his shin but was holding his knee. Simulation, booking and the correct decision. That does not matter. There was contact that is the bottom line, so the ref was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 This is why people are getting bored with football. Two good games but lets focus on the ref. what about the good football? I disagree, I love a good debate about a controversial decision. It is possible to applaude good play, and discuss decisions too you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 That does not matter. There was contact that is the bottom line, so the ref was wrong. That was from the rulebook so the referee is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 How is it simulation, he's been kicked on the ankle. Falls on the floor knees first, holds his knee and then gets booked for diving. It's ridiculous that you now can be fouled and get sent off for it. Even the man utd player has admitted he fouled him, but can't be overturned for a second yellow, so ref has nothing to answer for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I disagree, I love a good debate about a controversial decision. It is possible to applaude good play, and discuss decisions too you know. Fair enough, but i hate it. Its always the 1st thing sky go on about. Show super slow mo replays from 100 different angles then slag the ref off, until eventually they say oh back to the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I just freeze framed Hernandez when the ball had travelled 3 yards towards him from Rafaels shot. He was onside by then. Just proves how hard a job linesman have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Fergie just described David Luiz as a 'devilish whirlwind' haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Fair enough, but i hate it. Its always the 1st thing sky go on about. Show super slow mo replays from 100 different angles then slag the ref off, until eventually they say oh back to the football Agree, It's strange that the ONLY honest person on the pitch ends up getting slated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 The question should always be was the contact enough to send Torres tumbling through the air like the sugar plum fairy? and the answer is no, if he was running to escape a pap photographer on the streets of London and in the melee he had similar contact from a member of the public would he throw himself headlong onto the pavement? and the answer is no again. As far as Ivanovich goes should been booked in the first half anyway, so if it was a yellow it would have been the same outcome. it could have been worse for Chelsea Ramires was pushing his luck all game. I found De Gea having a conversation with a Chelsea player whilst Torres was being sent off and covering his mouth up laughable, I would have thought that only if he was making an inappropriate remark would that be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Dont kid yourself Just because you dont like the bloke Suarez is the biggest diver in the country. I remember him getting J Rodwell sent off last season in the corresponding fixture. Really good player just an utter scum bag on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 The question should always be was the contact enough to send Torres tumbling through the air like the sugar plum fairy? and the answer is no, if he was running to escape a pap photographer on the streets of London and in the melee he had similar contact from a member of the public would he throw himself headlong onto the pavement? and the answer is no again. As far as Ivanovich goes should been booked in the first half anyway, so if it was a yellow it would have been the same outcome. it could have been worse for Chelsea Ramires was pushing his luck all game. I found De Gea having a conversation with a Chelsea player whilst Torres was being sent off and covering his mouth up laughable, I would have thought that only if he was making an inappropriate remark would that be necessary. He was chatting to Torres which makes me wonder if he knew ref got it wrong but didn't want to be seen on tv admitting it. What annoys me is SAF and Evans both admit there was contact but that its ok to foul someone for if they fall over its a dive. A foul is a foul no arguments about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Another day, another shed load of refereeing decisions in Man U's favour. Some things never change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del ete Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Another day, another shed load of refereeing decisions in Man U's favour. Some things never change... Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Sounds like Clattenberg is in trouble. Chelsea have accused him of Inappropriate language towards 2 black Chlesea players. Chelsea have lodged a complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 He was chatting to Torres which makes me wonder if he knew ref got it wrong but didn't want to be seen on tv admitting it. What annoys me is SAF and Evans both admit there was contact but that its ok to foul someone for if they fall over its a dive. A foul is a foul no arguments about it. So let me get this correct, you are saying that 'any contact' is a foul?, you are further saying that to enhance a players claim to a foul he is entitled to go down, even if the contact is totally insufficient to actually make him go down in reality?. and put into a nutshell, a player makes an honest attempt to win the ball, the opposing player feels minimal contact and to enhance his chances of winning a foul he dives through the air and also enhancing the chances of an opponent being sent off and who is the cheat?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 apparantley mark clattenberg racially abused two chelsea players.. haven't heard the end of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Let's hope Ashley Cole isn't the main witness or he changes his statement earlier this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 apparantley mark clattenberg racially abused two chelsea players.. haven't heard the end of this Would find that astonishing tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Would find that astonishing tbh. me too, maybe a few words exchanged but i'm pretty confident clattenberg wouldn't even think about racially abusing a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 I just wonder how many times Clattenberg was told to **** off by players of both sides during the 90 minutes? and of course that is never deemed inappropriate is it?. When Andy Carroll plays it's just about his only topic of conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 apparantley mark clattenberg racially abused two chelsea players.. haven't heard the end of this Not saying racially but inappropriate language towards them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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