GrahamC Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Bit of a surprise, Fontaine back too and sadly no Davies through hamstring injury..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Stunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Injury? Or squad rotation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I am a massive Heaton fan and was truly flabbergasted to see he wasn't starting... However, we all know Del likes to change the team and with us conceeding so many (although the goals haven't been Heatons fault) maybe its worth a gamble? A different voice at the back, who knows. Also, Gerken will be trying to impress so should have a lot of fight in him. I am going to wait and see how we do before ridiculing his starting lineup because apart from Heaton I think we look fairly balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I hope it isn't squad rotation because If it is Del had lost the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 DM: "I don't think Tom's done a whole lot wrong; sometimes change can be good. Dean has waited patiently and served us well in the past." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 DM: "I don't think Tom's done a whole lot wrong; sometimes change can be good. Dean has waited patiently and served us well in the past." Well if we defend as we usually do Gerken is going to need to be serving us very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What the hell is everyone's problem? Gerken is about equal to Tom Heaton in terms of goal keeping ability, it's only right Gerken should get a chance in the team. If he doesn't play he will simply leave and then we're back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I can't get my head round this decision, we will see at 16.45 but he's had potentially left himself wide open to critism here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What the hell is everyone's problem? Gerken is about equal to Tom Heaton in terms of goal keeping ability, it's only right Gerken should get a chance in the team. If he doesn't play he will simply leave and then we're back to square one. Yep, Gerken is a footballer and he wants to play, not just sit on the bench watching. If he doesn't get the chances to prove his worth he will just leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I can't get my head round this decision, we will see at 16.45 but he's had potentially left himself wide open to critism here. What?? Why should Heaton be undroppable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What the hell is everyone's problem? Gerken is about equal to Tom Heaton in terms of goal keeping ability, it's only right Gerken should get a chance in the team. If he doesn't play he will simply leave and then we're back to square one. Gerken is not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBCFC Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What the hell is everyone's problem? Gerken is about equal to Tom Heaton in terms of goal keeping ability, it's only right Gerken should get a chance in the team. If he doesn't play he will simply leave and then we're back to square one. Deluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 What?? Why should Heaton be undroppable? Heaton ain't the problem. What's he done wrong? I would agree that nobody should be undroppable but Gherkin is not in the same class as Heaton. Stupid decision in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Gerken is not even close There's very little between them from what we've seen. In fact you could make a strong case for Gerken looking superior at the end of last season. Heaton hasn't played well enough to provoke all this indignation at him being left out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Although it is a little harsh on Heaton, (though I thought he should have done better for Burnley's 4th) a Gerken performance such as those at Forest last year or Newcastle under GJ might just be what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 We're still 8 games unbeaten in the league with Gerken in goal if you don't remember? Should've been allowed to keep that and very much deserves this chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taunton_City Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 There's very little between them from what we've seen. In fact you could make a strong case for Gerken looking superior at the end of last season. Heaton hasn't played well enough to provoke all this indignation at him being left out. Agreed. If it was Joe Hart being dropped by McInnes I'd understand. I don't think Tom Heaton has been bad by any means, but if Gerken performs like he did at Forest then we'll stand a much better chance of not conceding any goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I suppose last week's killer goal has been put down as Heaton's blunder rather then Skuse's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Why the Heaton love in? He has let in 28 goals in 13 games FFS, he wasn't Cardiff first choice, and he's too short. Gerkin has done fine when he's played. Oh Deano.........Oh Deano!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 There's very little between them from what we've seen. In fact you could make a strong case for Gerken looking superior at the end of last season. Heaton hasn't played well enough to provoke all this indignation at him being left out. Correct. The suggestion that there is some sort of yawning chasm between the two in terms of ability is rubbish. Heaton tends to show a little more composure and authority most of the time and his handling is arguably a bit better, but I would suggest Gerken may have slightly quicker reflexes and is a marginally better shot-stopper. I have sympathy for Heaton, because he's by no means played badly and it would be outrageously unfair to suggest he's been one of the main reasons for our problems - but then, as far as I can see, nobody is suggesting that, not even the manager who's decided to make the change. The bottom line is that our defence has been appalling; Heaton has been an integral part of that defence and must bear some part of the responsibility, even if not guilty of making glaring errors. Confidence is not helped by conceding so many, even if that has not been principally his fault. Gerken also did little wrong to merit being dropped: we have a second keeper for a reason - to provide competition as well as mere cover - and have lost players before by not giving the back-up keeper a fair crack of the whip. All perfectly defensible reasons for making a change, in my book. Why all the fuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Dean is a topman and truly deserves his chance. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Clueless No need to be so self-critical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Gerken is about equal to Tom Heaton in terms of goal keeping ability are you having a giraffe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Nothing against Dean at all, but Heaton has been one of our only leaders on the pitch whilst doing nothing wrong. Unbelievable decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Correct. The suggestion that there is some sort of yawning chasm between the two in terms of ability is rubbish. Heaton tends to show a little more composure and authority most of the time and his handling is arguably a bit better, but I would suggest Gerken may have slightly quicker reflexes and is a marginally better shot-stopper. I have sympathy for Heaton, because he's by no means played badly and it would be outrageously unfair to suggest he's been one of the main reasons for our problems - but then, as far as I can see, nobody is suggesting that, not even the manager who's decided to make the change. The bottom line is that our defence has been appalling; Heaton has been an integral part of that defence and must bear some part of the responsibility, even if not guilty of making glaring errors. Confidence is not helped by conceding so many, even if that has not been principally his fault. Gerken also did little wrong to merit being dropped: we have a second keeper for a reason - to provide competition as well as mere cover - and have lost players before by not giving the back-up keeper a fair crack of the whip. All perfectly defensible reasons for making a change, in my book. Why all the fuss? Thank you. I was beginning to think I was... Deluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Dean is a topman and truly deserves his chance. Good luck to him. +1 How can picking the man who played such a large part in our survival ever be a stupid decision in our current predicament. Good luck Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I was hoping this would happen, i don't think Heaton anything special (dont think deano is either) but thought deano was brill last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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