tinman-is-god Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 The way that Greg Cunningham reacted to the shove he received from Tomlin was pretty pathetic but resulted in a man being sent off which left us at a distinct advantage. He rolled around the floor, exaggerated contact and forced the referee to make a decision. The question I would pose is: A) Was Cunningham right to dive and feign injury to get the man sent off for what was a red card offence B) Was this simply cheating and symptomatic of the modern game? C) Does anyone actually think it hurt him? I think my opinion is a mixture of A and B. Would be interested to get the thoughts of the forum on what was a key event in the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I would suggest the blame lie with the bloke who elbowed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I would suggest the blame lie with the bloke who elbowed him. As would I, and it was a clear red, but did the way Cunningham react really reflect injury incurred from the contact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 As would I, and it was a clear red, but did the way Cunningham react really reflect injury incurred from the contact? Nobody knows that answer apart from GC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I was sat in the Atyeo, level with this incident and saw it clearly. The Boro player shoved Cunningham in the face with the palm of his hand. If he got caught on the nose then it sure would have hurt for 30s or so. Does that mean Cunningham should have fallen to the ground. Perhaps not. I think it's unfair to suggest Cunningham feigned injury. He was caught in the face with a hand. Irrespective of the injury or otherwise, it was as clear a red as you'll ever see. Which does make you wonder what the Boro player was on? Perhaps our team are beginning to get a bit nasty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Looked pretty straight forward to me, elbow and red. What about Boyd, went down for their pen (no dispute) led there cluctching his leg like it was broken, then miraculously leapt back to his feet to protest because Heaton was only booked. Same with Nasri for Man City yesterday, and Van Persie for Utd last week after 'nearly being killed' according to the red nosed bully. One of the many problems with the modern game. CHR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Don't forget that Cunningham has just recovered from being chopped in the away game by this bunch of thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 So what was it elbow or palm, seems to be conflicting versions of events. Either way, raised hand or elbow are both red cards. I can't ever remember rolling on the floor when catching a elbow or hand in the face, hold my face and swear a bit maybe, but chuck myself to the floor? No need, either the ref or assistant sees it or not, no need to hit the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 The way that Greg Cunningham reacted to the shove he received from Tomlin was pretty pathetic but resulted in a man being sent off which left us at a distinct advantage. He rolled around the floor, exaggerated contact and forced the referee to make a decision. The question I would pose is: A) Was Cunningham right to dive and feign injury to get the man sent off for what was a red card offence B) Was this simply cheating and symptomatic of the modern game? C) Does anyone actually think it hurt him? I think my opinion is a mixture of A and B. Would be interested to get the thoughts of the forum on what was a key event in the match. Hardly , he went down on his back and rolled over onto his front , half a roll. Don't think it mattered though , the linesman flagged straight away and it was always going to be a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Don't forget that Cunningham has just recovered from being chopped in the away game by this bunch of thugs. Quite right, they were a dirty, cynical team up at their place so I have no sympathy with them whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Whether Cunningham made the most of it or not, anything in the face will result in a straight red card, so as soon as Tonlin moved his elbow towards Cunningham's face, he was a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Quite right, they were a dirty, cynical team up at their place so I have no sympathy with them whatsoever. They were just as bad yesterday once the game was lost, a couple of awful fouls that should have been harshly punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Looked pretty straight forward to me, elbow and red. What about Boyd, went down for their pen (no dispute) led there cluctching his leg like it was broken, then miraculously leapt back to his feet to protest because Heaton was only booked. Same with Nasri for Man City yesterday, and Van Persie for Utd last week after 'nearly being killed' according to the red nosed bully. One of the many problems with the modern game. CHR Would agree with this assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammyOne Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 How dare Cunningham get hit. What was Greg thinking? What was he even doing on the pitch?! Greg you ought to be ashamed of yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman-is-god Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Hardly , he went down on his back and rolled over onto his front , half a roll. Don't think it mattered though , the linesman flagged straight away and it was always going to be a red. I don't query the red but surely you would accept he, at the very least, exaggerated the contact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OfficiallyRed+ Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Just ask yourself this, would Tomlin of done the same thing had he of been elbowed in the face? i think so!! Fair play to greg, thoes thugs kept him out for months, i think its called justice!! Oh and 3 points....... :D We need to get nasty if we want to stay up, if that means we are classed as 'cheats' then i really couldn't give a dam!! COYRRR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Tomlin elbowed Cunningham, as least thats how it looked on the Player highlights. No doubt about the straight red. As for Cunningham 'exaggerating' by going down clutching his face - so what? Doesn't change the fact he received an elbow, a sneaky one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I don't query the red but surely you would accept he, at the very least, exaggerated the contact? I don't know how much contact there was. It looked as though he was caught flush in the face from my seat in the Dolman. If you get caught on the bridge of the nose , it can be pretty painful. Only GC knows how much force he felt , maybe he's a bit of a pussy , or maybe he is showing some of the street wise tactics that other teams employ against us and our players are accused of not doing enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Not at all. Tomlin is just a fat toad with an attitude problem. For all the great football posh play I can see why they always struggle. They have a complete lack of discipline. One of the dirtiest teams I've seen in a long time. The likes of Bostwick, Mark Little could have gone as well yesterday. Horrible bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggythecity Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 saw it plain as day swung his arm at cunningham violently,dirty little **** deserved to get sent off,sure cunningham was just making sure after what they got away with at there place!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Tomlin actually appears to glance around to check he's not in the ref's eyeline before swinging his elbow. Silly boy forgot the lino had a clear view though. Footballers aren't the brightest, are they? Regardless of the pain level inflicted it was clearly intended to take an opposing player out and was quite correctly adjudged to be violent conduct. A straight red offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbcfc Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Watch the fls highlights and watch Boyd roll around after he was brought down for the pen then sit straight up. It's part and parcel of modern football I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 They really don't like Cunningham do they, first a leg injury then an attempted facial injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 The way that Greg Cunningham reacted to the shove he received from Tomlin was pretty pathetic but resulted in a man being sent off which left us at a distinct advantage. He rolled around the floor, exaggerated contact and forced the referee to make a decision. The question I would pose is: A) Was Cunningham right to dive and feign injury to get the man sent off for what was a red card offence B) Was this simply cheating and symptomatic of the modern game? C) Does anyone actually think it hurt him? I think my opinion is a mixture of A and B. Would be interested to get the thoughts of the forum on what was a key event in the match. What a load of shite! Elbowed him plain and simple. Elbow you in the face see how you react Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Their issue seems to be more with just the yellow for Heaton than the red for Tomlin. http://www.theposhforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22110 Must admit, I too thought he was lucky for a yellow. I was in line with it in Dolman Block A and thought he was a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 it wasn't an elbow, it was a straight hand in the face/mouth - with some force I would say. I was sat in line with the incident and saw no reason why the Boro guy did what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I remember at forest away Cunningham ran straight through their defence from a drop ball and forest players/fans were fuming. It's about time we had a player who wasn't soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 The way I look at it is reverse the situation. Same two players, same place, same incident. But Cunningham raises his hand and Tomlin went down holding his face, then jumps up and goes off the field and then comes straight back on. How would the Atyeo and Dolman have reacted to Tomlin? There is your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeNDAILIL Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I think Tomlin done it to get New Year's Day off, right infront of both officials. Plain stupidity and may prove very costly to Posh's season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_bristol Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I was sat in the Atyeo, level with this incident and saw it clearly. The Boro player shoved Cunningham in the face with the palm of his hand. If he got caught on the nose then it sure would have hurt for 30s or so. Does that mean Cunningham should have fallen to the ground. Perhaps not. I think it's unfair to suggest Cunningham feigned injury. He was caught in the face with a hand. Irrespective of the injury or otherwise, it was as clear a red as you'll ever see. Which does make you wonder what the Boro player was on? Perhaps our team are beginning to get a bit nasty... This is exactly how it was I had the same view but probably a bit higher up. Tomlin's not the smallest of blokes and put his weight behind the shove. Cunningham's not the largest of blokes and went down, if he acted any part of it, he did it well as it was quite a shove. I'm fairly sure if tomlin had done that in front of a copper outside the ground he'd have been arrested. He had to go and the ref didn't hesitate. Shame in a way because our win would have been more credible against 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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