Always Believesham Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Personally, I'm all but resigned to it but can relegation be fought off? It's still in our (very slippery) hands. Those 30 points needed for the illusive 50 point marker are a tough ask for a manager of any calibre. SoD is known for, like Coppell, taking one game at a time. However, targets are neccessary to acheive safety as I doubt we can go on a 10 game win streak! Looking at 20 games with a target is too far and if we don't achieve it, we're down, shorter term targets will give the opportunity to salvage the situation the next period. We're on 22; I've looked at the fixtures, and the months and reckon January 4(26), February 8(34), March 5(39), April 8(47), May 3(50) would keep us up. Just. Can it be done? Yes. Wil it be done? If we close out eyes and think happy thoughts it might just happen Anybody else got any theories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fleuriot Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I can't see us staying up with 47 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Can be done - probably wont be done. Three for a win makes the table much more volatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 we need at least 11 wins out of 20.. i really really can't see it..in recent times we've sacked managers at october to actually give us massive ammount of time to stay up.. think they may be a hurdle to much.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 If Sod can organise the defence into anything resembling a unit, we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cloud Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 4/5 wins out the next 10 who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Horace says we can do it, but then hedgehogs are noted for their optimism - look how they cross the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yes it is achievable, but it would be more of a feat than any other escape we have manifested.. My attitude is that i want the club to survive in this league and hope we do everything we can to achieve it BUT i have already elected for some self counseling to ease relegation blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodburyred Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 All it takes is a few wins and the teams above us to drop a few and it'll be very much in our own hands. Not over by a long stretch. Look at Boro and Wednesday dead and burried not long ago now look. Plenty of twists and turns left in this season yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Read Nibor's post in the main O'Driscoll thread. We need about 1.5 points per game and something like W8 D6 L6 could be enough to save us. Put that way, it doesn't seem such an impossibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneydave Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Of course we can stay up!!!We have a good nucleus of players who need motivation .We have good fans who need motivation as well.Put that together and we have 1 good team!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 28 points from 20 will probably be enough. 29 for good measure. 9 wins and a draw or two... Or 8 wins and 4/5 draws. Not impossible if we can start with a win at Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny P Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 We need to win 2 more games than Wednesday, Barnsley and Peterborough, and that's without anyone else getting sucked in! Who knows how many games they will lose, simple fact is if we can string a few wins together, with what I believe is a strong squad and a manager who can get the best out of them, we can start bridging the gap to the clubs above Wednesday. We have to believe we can do this or we all may as well not bother supporting the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 ...not going to be a dull end to the season thats for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East end Forever Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 if he replaces the whole of the defence excluding greg and sorts out the midfield by bringing in some real quality in the next two and a half weeks and they gel straight away we might stay up but we cant do it with what we got attacking no probs but everything behind them is poor and have proved this from the start of the season i just feel the damage has already been done im sorry to be so negetive but the current crop has shown nothing to make me feel anything other than negetive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Just a someone always seems to make a surprise last minute push for the play-offs, there is also usually someone who drops into the brown stuff in the latter stages. Birmingham and Huddersfield are both having satisfying little plummets at the moment. Huddersfield haven't won since 10th November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Jesus. Listen to yourselves. Its January for god sake. we've three and a half months to get out of this. Of course it can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 We need that 'new manager' effect that's for sure. Next three are: Leeds (A), Ipswich (H) and Watford (H). Two wins from those would be fantastic and 'give us a chance'. We are still strong favourites for the drop though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Relies on 2 things 1) We need a defence to turn up 2) Do we have the players for sod style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 In the last eight years, 50+ points for survival was only needed twice. My definition for minimum needed is level on points, one better GD (yes I know goals scored could do it). 2007/8 Leicester relegated with 52 points, -3 GD 2004/5 Gillingham down with 50 points -21GD. That season proves the point above, as Crewe stayed up with 50 points, -20 GD So for six years in the last eight, you could have got LESS than the "mystical 50 points" and still survived. For one (or two depending on GD), 50 points wouldn't have been enough. That 6:2 split is the same for 49 points. 48 points and a decent GD would still have been enough to keep a team up in six seasons. We have 22 points and a game in hand - useless unless we get points from it, but the GiH still represents a greater opportunity to gain points than the other teams around us. To get to 48 points (as in - would see us stay up more often than not in recent times) needs 1.3 points per match, or something like W7,D5,L8 or W6,D8,L6. Those are NOT unachieveable, especially with the "new manager effect" and if we actually get behind the team. They might not be enough - but then getting 47 or even 46 points might still do it. We won't know for sure until May Ultimately the above is statistices and chance - how the rest of the season turns out is pretty much down to whether SoD can get the bulk of the existing squad plus a couple of additions to play like they care. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other years' points/GD for the last relegated team were 11/12 48 points, -8 GD (ignoring the Portsmouth points deduction) 10/11 42, -25 09/10 47, -20 08/09 46, -13 07/08 52,-3 (as above) 06/07 42, -33 05/06 42, -29 04/05 50, -21 (as above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 So, we need 28 points from a possible 60. Eight wins, four draws and eight losses would suffice. We can do it, but if we WILL do it is another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd take needing something at Charlton now. It's either going to be touch and go or we'll be down by march...the first option sounds more appealing put that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Horace says we can do it, but then hedgehogs are noted for their optimism - look how they cross the road! Position themselves between the headlights, keep their head down, and hope it's not a Reliant Robin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Position themselves between the headlights, keep their head down, and hope it's not a Reliant Robin! So from an evolution perspective, hedgehogs that position themselves 1/3 or 2/3 across will eventually take over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Relies on 2 things 1) We need a defence to turn up 2) Do we have the players for sod style we didn't have the players for dereks lump to sam baldock style.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've always felt we're only 2 or 3 players away from being quite competetive and the problem was more organisation/tactics/selection than personel available. Making the assumption that Kelly is one of the missing players and MacFadzean is another, we could only be one player off a good side presuming SOD gets us organised. Given that we're only 6 points off safety with a game in hand our season is eminently saveable. I just don't feel we'll get our act together quite quickly enough to make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Much depends on who SoD can bring in to improve the defense. McManus, who frankly has been a huge disappointment will hopefully go back to Boro. Bates's future at City is unclear.Fontaine needs to find some form and quickly. Foster is not a good enough player for the Championship. Carey is past it. Only Cunningham stands out as a useful defender. Unless SoD can sort out the defense City have had it. If City could keep a clean sheet scoring goals has not been a real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 So from an evolution perspective, hedgehogs that position themselves 1/3 or 2/3 across will eventually take over? Not if the steam rollers have their way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Position themselves between the headlights, keep their head down, and hope it's not a Reliant Robin! So from an evolution perspective, hedgehogs that position themselves 1/3 or 2/3 across will eventually take over? Not if the steam rollers have their way! You guys may mock, but hedgehogs have been around for 55 million years. Steam-rollers were invented in the 1860's and they're already obsolete And would you risk hitting a hedgehog in a Reliant Robin?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I reckon these fixtures will determine whether we survive Ipswich (h) Barnsley (h) Wolves (a) Wendys(h) Brum(h) Hudds(h) I think we have to win 5 of these games to have a chance of survival. With 5 at home you would think it would be doable but not so sure this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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