pride of the west Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 as above he said was training with reserves under mcinnes. What did he do so wrong then? Thats odd for that to happen unless there was a bust up or the player wants out. In our situation you want all hands at the pump surely, no matter how much you dont rate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggythecity Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 must have been one of the players time to find a new club i suppose...kinda hope nothing changes but dont think that will be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 After Woolford left McInnes said that he'd told "two or three" other players that they could leave this month. At the time my guess was that Nyatanga, Morris and Kilkenny were the players involved, considering that none of them were making the match day squad, this comment confirms that Kilkenny must have been one of them. Clearly a change of manager and a change of opinion regarding NK.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Clearly a change of manager and a change of opinion regarding NK..I think it's probably the typical clean slate - everyone gets a chance.I suspect Neil Kilkenny is very expensive, so whilst we might as well use him since we've got him I wouldn't be surprised to see the manager try and move him on in the summer regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted January 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Fair enough. I didnt realise mcinnes went public that he actually told a couple to move on. Id like to know what happened with morris and mcinnes mind. Good mates. He done him a favour by bringing him down but never gave him a chance. Perhaps morris just chucked it back in his face and went on the sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I think it's probably the typical clean slate - everyone gets a chance. I suspect Neil Kilkenny is very expensive, so whilst we might as well use him since we've got him I wouldn't be surprised to see the manager try and move him on in the summer regardless. Sure Kilkenny is OOC in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 O'Driscoll tried to sign him at previous clubs. Fits O'Driscoll's style of play. Will play more now. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Unreal - training with reserves ?Just sums up DM's lack of experience - we will probably go down but I am glad DM is OUT OF OUR CLUB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Unreal - training with reserves ? Just sums up DM's lack of experience - we will probably go down but I am glad DM is OUT OF OUR CLUB! What do you mean? When a player falls out of favour at a club this kind of thing happens a lot! Like you, I am glad Del is gone, but I don't see how putting Killa in the reserves shows a 'lack of experience' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Sure Kilkenny is OOC in the summer.Nope. He signed a three year deal in summer 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I think Kilkenny is useless n exactly wat we don't need altho saying tht he would be very useful if we are in league one next year If he gets a run I hope he proves me wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 In a recent 'Questions and Answers' session on Twitter, Kilkenny said quite a few times how sometimes he is too honest and that some people don't like to be told the truth. With him training in the reserves I think it's pretty obvious that he said something to McInnes which didn't go down well. I know that is just putting two and two together but it seems pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBS14 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 In a recent 'Questions and Answers' session on Twitter, Kilkenny said quite a few times how sometimes he is too honest and that some people don't like to be told the truth. With him training in the reserves I think it's pretty obvious that he said something to McInnes which didn't go down well. I know that is just putting two and two together but it seems pretty clear. Spot on Dave, im geussing the same - something said ! i also beleive mciness was telling the press etc players were injured when they were not, just a hunch i have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Nope. He signed a three year deal in summer 2011. Cheers Nibor, I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warminster Red Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I think the situation is that if a first team player isn't in the match day squad on a saturday they train with the reserves in the morning. One of my pals who plays for the U18s told me this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted January 20, 2013 Admin Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Its more likely that DMc just didn't have any man management skills or at least not well developed enough to manage forthright , non yes men characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo7 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I think it's probably the typical clean slate - everyone gets a chance. I suspect Neil Kilkenny is very expensive, so whilst we might as well use him since we've got him I wouldn't be surprised to see the manager try and move him on in the summer regardless. Everyone except Joe Edwards it would seem! I also suspect Neil Kilkenny is very expensive but based on his past interest SO'D is unlikely to try to move NK on in the summer if the miracle happens - otherwise he will need to go with just about everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Everyone except Joe Edwards it would seem!His move was already decided and he'd made his mind up. I also suspect Neil Kilkenny is very expensive but based on his past interest SO'D is unlikely to try to move NK on in the summer if the miracle happens - otherwise he will need to go with just about everyone else.Depends who else he wants and how much he can save by doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 probably because Kilkenny can't play football at this standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR1 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Kilkenny was excellent yesterday and can see him staying at Ashton Gate. Just sticking my nose in, but as a Leeds fan his performance yesterday was a carbon copy of those when he played here. Lots of pointing, lots of shoulders dipped, some lovely ten yard balls, but a doddle to play against, even for our lumbering midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep the Faith Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 probably because Kilkenny can't play football at this standard He played in a better Leeds team than ours at this level and has played well for us at times. He can clearly play at this level i think he just needs to be in the right sort of team (one with strong/mobile players around him) which we have not been. At least he makes some noise on the pitch. A bit more character from some others would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Just sticking my nose in, but as a Leeds fan his performance yesterday was a carbon copy of those when he played here. Lots of pointing, lots of shoulders dipped, some lovely ten yard balls, but a doddle to play against, even for our lumbering midfield. Aye, that's Killa. I am hoping if he continues to play, SOD finds a perfect place for him. One thing he does is keep possession, something we miss. I still don't rate the bloke, but maybe there is a plan in SOD's head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Just sticking my nose in, but as a Leeds fan his performance yesterday was a carbon copy of those when he played here. Lots of pointing, lots of shoulders dipped, some lovely ten yard balls, but a doddle to play against, even for our lumbering midfield. Ironic that a couple of match reports I read, stated how much you could do with him right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR1 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 We were discussing that in the pub yesterday. Rose tinted spectacles was the conclusion. Kilkenny is a divisive player. He looks like he's got so much in the locker, but so rarely produces it. But when you're watching the 123 year old Michael Brown and the stunning talent of David Norris (who did not make the team yesterday because we've signed an Everton youngster on loan) you tend to become dewy eyed. The answer is in the question really. The threads on here about him reflect those which were on our forums when he was at Leeds. That tells you more than anything really. Of the midfield that went up from League One Snodgrass, Howson and even Bradley Johnson are playing in the Premier League. Kilkenny never even got a sniff of interest from anyone higher up. Football folk aren't as stupid as we paint them, and the lack of approaches tell the true story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corleone Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Didn't he turn 4 or 5 Championship clubs for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 We were discussing that in the pub yesterday. Rose tinted spectacles was the conclusion. Kilkenny is a divisive player. He looks like he's got so much in the locker, but so rarely produces it. But when you're watching the 123 year old Michael Brown and the stunning talent of David Norris (who did not make the team yesterday because we've signed an Everton youngster on loan) you tend to become dewy eyed. The answer is in the question really. The threads on here about him reflect those which were on our forums when he was at Leeds. That tells you more than anything really. Of the midfield that went up from League One Snodgrass, Howson and even Bradley Johnson are playing in the Premier League. Kilkenny never even got a sniff of interest from anyone higher up. Football folk aren't as stupid as we paint them, and the lack of approaches tell the true story. Question. Did he ever play in a central midfield 2 for you? And how did he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR1 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Didn't he turn 4 or 5 Championship clubs for us? He went where the money was from what a City fan told me at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR1 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Question. Did he ever play in a central midfield 2 for you? And how did he do? Yes he did, and he was outmuscled consistently. He is slow and has no physical presence. That's fine if you have other strings to your bow. But he scored around 10 goals in 120 odd starts, and contributed 18 assists, many of which were in the early rounds of the League Cup against lower league opposition. What is his selling point? Not goals, not assists, not tackling, not pace. If he's a playmaker solely then his output has to be higher than it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBS15 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 The bloke is a total over expense, shirks challenges, doesnt score any goal, moans constantly and blames player around him for his own failings. Derek was right to banish this little weasel to the reserves exactly the type of player that has been bleeding the club dry over the past few years. Terrible signing really can't stand the bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Does worry me that SoD wanted to sign him. We need a team full of impact players, as GJ said 'people who can influence a game'. Killa is just one of about 15 in the squad who just lets the game pass them by. Let's hope SoD is a quick learner 'cause we can ill-afford a three month period where he sizes up the squad. Del eventually iidentified the passengers - unfortunately it was 6 months late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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