Ben4BCFC Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Apologies if I'm slow off the mark, but news spreading around twitter is that Birmingham have about ten days to find six million or else they enter administration and suffer a hefty points deduction as well as losing a lot of players. Many fans think it'll be the end of Clark as well as the end of their Championship status. Can't find anything about it online as an official report but seems too much talk for it to be complete horsemuck. I hate to see any club go into financial trouble and potentially go bust/fold, but could a point deduction for Brum combined with all their troubles, and potentially leaving them filling one of the relegation spots, give us that little bit more hope in staying up? Could they be our Pompey of 2013...? Just some of the tweets... https://twitter.com/EdFitter/status/292614753824681984 https://twitter.com/mike_farrell95/status/291315077859143682 https://twitter.com/Dean084/status/293329539235475457 https://twitter.com/barton1875/status/293332005154856961 https://twitter.com/nick_spooner/status/293326673833758720 https://twitter.com/iSabreman/status/292670177668132867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 If it is true then their saving grace is that they have an asset they can realise for £6M in the keeper Jack Butland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 They're desperate to offload Zigic & King. Wouldn't mind Zig but not on his current 55k a week salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I hate to see any club go into financial trouble and potentially go bust/fold, but could a point deduction for Brum combined with all their troubles, and potentially leaving them filling one of the relegation spots, give us that little bit more hope in staying up? Could they be our Pompey of 2013...? "our" Pompey of 2013...? Care to elaborate..? It's not like Pompey's points deduction kept us up last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 If it is true then their saving grace is that they have an asset they can realise for £6M in the keeper Jack Butland My guess would be (again, if true) that buying clubs would force a hard bargain and they would not get even near that value, especially if Birmingham were pushing for a larger than normal percentage of the fee to be paid upfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 They're desperate to offload Zigic & King. Wouldn't mind Zig but not on his current 55k a week salary They tried to sell Zigic to Villareal last week but the Spanish club said no thanks when they realised he was on what they called a "Man U style salary"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 They tried to sell Zigic to Villareal last week but the Spanish club said no thanks when they realised he was on what they called a "Man U style salary"! I fear the same could happen to QPR when they get relegated. Haven't they just signed someone on a Zigic-esque wage, plus all their other mercenaries wouldn't have come cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Pompey are still in massive trouble as well, asking their staff to take another 10% pay cut...still £60 million in debt...rumours down there that they won't last the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Pompey are still in massive trouble as well, asking their staff to take another 10% pay cut...still £60 million in debt...rumours down there that they won't last the year Only eleven and a half months to go then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksy Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 We might not go down then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 21, 2013 Admin Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Believe it when it happens.... until then am more worried about the problems that we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Youell Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Is there anyone else likely to hit the wall soon to take another relegation spot. I'm not a proud man, right now I'd take survival by any means necessary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 If they had 10 points deducted right now it would help, but we would still be knee deep in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben4BCFC Posted January 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 "our" Pompey of 2013...? Care to elaborate..? It's not like Pompey's points deduction kept us up last season! I probably didn't word that particularly eloquently. I meant the 'our' in reference to how Pompey weren't 'ours' last season but Barnsley's. Maybe this year we could benefit from someone else's downfall, in this sense, potentially Birmingham. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 If they had 10 points deducted right now it would help, but we would still be knee deep in it. True, but they would be shafted with a manager who gives the impression of not being all that and this coupled with having to sell if decent offers come in for their better assets of which Zigic is not one. He is the definition of a financial liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 I probably didn't word that particularly eloquently. I meant the 'our' in reference to how Pompey weren't 'ours' last season but Barnsley's. Maybe this year we could benefit from someone else's downfall, in this sense, potentially Birmingham. Apologies. I will gratefully take that at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Hart Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Should not even be thinking about this yet,and not relying on another clubs misfortune.We should just be concentrating on getting another 20-30 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Should not even be thinking about this yet,and not relying on another clubs misfortune.We should just be concentrating on getting another 20-30 points I think if we only get another 20 points, then this is exactly the sort of situation that we are going to need to concentrate on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 They're desperate to offload Zigic & King. Wouldn't mind Zig but not on his current 55k a week salary Are you serious? 55k for a Champ player? There was no break clause? beggars belief the people running these clubs who sign up to these contracts without one. Dear oh dear. Back on topic... yes it will fill a releg spot and help us along nicely... and do I care?... urmmmmm..... Not a jot. Foreign owners get no sympathy from me when they run clubs like a 4 year old understanding how finally not to poop his pants... its messy at first and then they think its all under control not realising it takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Think it started with a chinese guy, think he was from Hong Kong not sure, he put a lots of cash in Brum. Then I think he was jailed for taxes. Not sure but I know they had economic trouble since they came in this leauge. Minus 10 points for them should our odds getting better to survail. Not a good situation for Birmingham, but as a City supporter I will not cry if its true. The mainthing is that we shell play in this leauge next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Are you serious? 55k for a Champ player? There was no break clause? beggars belief the people running these clubs who sign up to these contracts without one. Dear oh dear. My mate worked with a bloke ITK at Birmingham the other year and he said contracts were cut by 50% if they were relegated and doubled if they were promoted. That was under Gold & Sullivan and obviously quite devisive among the players as some took the 50% pay cut and others moved on quickly both times they went down recently. Obviously a good season in the Premiership and that was hurled out the window when Zigic was offered to the club by his agent, which I believe is the case. for £55k a week, should his agent be sent down for fraudulant activity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 My mate worked with a bloke ITK at Birmingham the other year and he said contracts were cut by 50% if they were relegated and doubled if they were promoted. That was under Gold & Sullivan and obviously quite devisive among the players as some took the 50% pay cut and others moved on quickly both times they went down recently. Obviously a good season in the Premiership and that was hurled out the window when Zigic was offered to the club by his agent, which I believe is the case. for £55k a week, should his agent be sent down for fraudulant activity? Bit strong to suggest that is or might be the case squire. With what you may know or suggest it seems to me the Agent should be given a whopping great big bonus by his client and I suspect he has already received it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Bit strong to suggest that is or might be the case squire. With what you may know or suggest it seems to me the Agent should be given a whopping great big bonus by his client and I suspect he has already received it. Pure tongue in cheek comment at the end but wow, I wish he was my agent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 Pure tongue in cheek comment at the end but wow, I wish he was my agent! Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 They've confirmed that they're willing to listen to offers for any of their players. Doubt they'd get 6M for Butland now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabio Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 They're desperate to offload Zigic & King. Wouldn't mind Zig but not on his current 55k a week salary One of my managers is a Birmingham season ticket holder and he said to me before Xmas if the dont sell these 2 there in trouble not only for that reason but reasons deeper into the club. Didn't mention it on here when he told me as I was peed off with everything, now with optimism and belief in our new manager I'm hoping we get out the sh£&e with a but of help from a team getting dicked 10 pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 One of my managers is a Birmingham season ticket holder and he said to me before Xmas if the dont sell these 2 there in trouble not only for that reason but reasons deeper into the club. Didn't mention it on here when he told me as I was peed off with everything, now with optimism and belief in our new manager I'm hoping we get out the sh£&e with a but of help from a team getting dicked 10 pts chris burke = quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 chris burke = quality We've got more than our fair share of burkes mate ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 chris burke = quality Would be good for us but too old ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 chris burke = quality You may get to see him at Ashton Gate sooner than you thought. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8422525/Nottingham-Forest-are-closing-in-on-the-signing-of-Birmingham-winger-Chris-Burke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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