ciderbeans Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 How good is this kid? Having been at PSG at a young age and having been scouted by Chelsea, it would seem he may have some potential but so far, that is all I've heard. Is he anywhere near the first team and can anyone that has seen him play say that he has the potential to be a prem standard striker when he's older? I would like to see him progress into the first team the same time as burns etc. All thoughts welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Apparently out of contract in July, thats a shame. Will we get anything in way of a tribunal fee or? Forget keeping him then, he appears a real talent with big clubs sniffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Apparently out of contract in July, thats a shame. Will we get anything in way of a tribunal fee or? Forget keeping him then, he appears a real talent with big clubs sniffing. cant be right. He signed a new 18 month deal in feb. http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/BREAKING-NEWS-Striker-Kevin-Krans-chooses-Bristol/story-18212204-detail/story.html#axzz2Tai5YV6Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 cant be right. He signed a new 18 month deal in feb. http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/BREAKING-NEWS-Striker-Kevin-Krans-chooses-Bristol/story-18212204-detail/story.html#axzz2Tai5YV6Y Thanks, 1 year deal though, why not 2 or 3 if hes that good? the risk in his wages at 19 would be insignificant compared to the fee we could command if he is as good as they say? Im guessing this is a much to do with his agent that the lad himself, otherwise what a balls ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted May 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Regardless of his contract, what is his ability and potential like ad are we likely to catch a glimpse of him this season in the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 Quick and got an eye for goal, Would of been good to use last season when Baldock was out but hey ho we'll move on... I reckon if played regularly he could develop into a good player, Not just this in and out until he's 24, Give him a lot of Bench appearances next season with the occasional start, if he shines keep him in. If we offload Baldock and Davies, Taylor Burns Kran *signing* Doesn't sound like a bad strike force to me, But I'm sure people on here disagree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Quick and got an eye for goal, Would of been good to use last season when Baldock was out but hey ho we'll move on... I reckon if played regularly he could develop into a good player, Not just this in and out until he's 24, Give him a lot of Bench appearances next season with the occasional start, if he shines keep him in. If we offload Baldock and Davies, Taylor Burns Kran *signing* Doesn't sound like a bad strike force to me, But I'm sure people on here disagree with me Would say It COULD be a good strikeforce but a tad risky as no proven goalscorer in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Exceptional talent who will be heavily involved next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Taylor Burns Kran *signing* Doesn't sound like a bad strike force to me, But I'm sure people on here disagree with me Not necessarily disagreeing with you but how many senior level goals has this bunch scored in total?!! Unless the 'new signing' was exceptional & were only looking to play 1 up top then ok but otherwise it looks incredibly weak!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Be good to put players like Krans, Dobie and others in for the JPT alongside Bryan, Burns, Ajala, Reid. I wouldn't have a problem with it and in fact it'd probably persuade me to turn up to an early round JPT game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Sorry to add to that I'd like to sew the more advanced of those youngsters in the squad for league games but I know very little about Krans or Dobie or other academy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Not necessarily disagreeing with you but how many senior level goals has this bunch scored in total?!! Unless the 'new signing' was exceptional & were only looking to play 1 up top then ok but otherwise it looks incredibly weak!!! How many goals do you expect them to have when there 19/20 and haven't had many games to play in? Taylor would be the Stead, Not necessarily a goal scorer but he'll add some creativity up front. This strike force would be a risk, But with FFP it should be a risk we should take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Does anyone know who has and hasn't been retained from the U21s? There were a number signed or already on the books: Holloway Krans Jones King Battersby Dobie I belive Burns and Ajala are under contract but dunno about the rest. Are they all still here or have some been shown the door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Holloway has been released i think? Ajala, krans, dobie all under contract. Not sure about the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'd give Taylor a run out as centre back pre-season. He has some qualities as a fotballer but goal scoring isn't one of them. A centre forward needs to contribute at least 8-10 goals a season even if his main role is provider for a 20 a season co striker. I can't see Taylor scoring more than five a season at any level. So unless we have some goalscoring midfielders and play two up front with a 20 goal a season support striker then a stubborn decision to play a non-goal scoring striker with some neat touches will cost us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider city red 81 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Contracted are batten hall dobie krans unsure on ajala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb6162 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Regardless of his contract, what is his ability and potential like ad are we likely to catch a glimpse of him this season in the first team? Its very simple this, he hasn't been anywhere near the bench so we either assume willie,alex ,sod and okelly are useless,,or the lad isn't ready. Ojala stepped up near the end to join the others, so it cant be lack of opportunity can it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb6162 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Exceptional talent who will be heavily involved next season. Ludicrous comment....... Exceptional.... on what basis do you make that call ? If he was exceptional at 22, why are the younger academy boys getting 1st team games ahead of him On your barometer wes burns and ajala would be a legends !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what's going wrong? Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ludicrous comment....... Exceptional.... on what basis do you make that call ? If he was exceptional at 22, why are the younger academy boys getting 1st team games ahead of him On your barometer wes burns and ajala would be a legends !!! He's 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 In his last season at Rotherham, before signing for us, he scored 12, so that's a factually incorrect thing to say. Since he has been here, he's had 3 bad injuries which have hampered his progress BUT his career stats show a 1 goal every 4 games return. Perhaps he is yet another who simply wasn't upto scratch for the NPC, but could do well in L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'd give Taylor a run out as centre back pre-season. He has some qualities as a fotballer but goal scoring isn't one of them. A centre forward needs to contribute at least 8-10 goals a season even if his main role is provider for a 20 a season co striker. I can't see Taylor scoring more than five a season at any level. So unless we have some goalscoring midfielders and play two up front with a 20 goal a season support striker then a stubborn decision to play a non-goal scoring striker with some neat touches will cost us next season.Let stick a striker at centre back? What funny stuff have you been smoking on my friend? Will know nothing about the position so will not work, plus he was an incredibly good target man with a decent record for Rotherham in L2 before all his injurys, should easily be able to cut it at a L1 level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 In his last season at Rotherham, before signing for us, he scored 12, so that's a factually incorrect thing to say. Since he has been here, he's had 3 bad injuries which have hampered his progress BUT his career stats show a 1 goal every 4 games return. Perhaps he is yet another who simply wasn't upto scratch for the NPC, but could do well in L1. he's scored 2 in 32 apperances for us and 25 in 172 career apperances a goal scorer he is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Getting back to KK i have seen him a few times for the Ressies and he reminds me a lot of a young Leroy Lita. He's lightening quick and a lethal finisher, i dont think he's quite ready for the 1st team yet i would send him out on loan for a couple of months to gain some 1st team experience first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Enough of sending 20 year olds on loan. Involve them or ship them out. If they arent good enough for league one at his age they shouldnt be in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunningdalered Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Enough of sending 20 year olds on loan. Involve them or ship them out. If they arent good enough for league one at his age they shouldnt be in the squad. This. The justification for not bringing through the youth has, for the last few seasons, been that the NPC was too tough a baptism - but league 1? We might even see some NPC clubs sending their prospects to us for some game time (oh the shame of it all). I'm not advocating throwing just anyone into the squad, but a 20-21 year old being up to div 1 standard is not an unreasonable expectation is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candygram for mongo Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Exceptional talent who will be heavily involved next season. Are you his agent? I have seen him play a couple of times, good shot from distance but miles away from the 1st team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeye Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 All this talk about our under 21 players not yet ready for the real thing - ludicrous ruminations when you consider all the under 21 men who have fought for their country - in two world wars right up to present day Iraq and Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 All this talk about our under 21 players not yet ready for the real thing - ludicrous ruminations when you consider all the under 21 men who have fought for their country - in two world wars right up to present day Iraq and Afghanistan. But that's not a cold Tuesday night in Carlisle No, I totally agree with you, Just stick them on a 5 a side pitch that'll strengthen them up a bit against the big bald 40 year olds who are only there to break bones! Could you imagine if they had to swap places with the armed forces, Wouldn't know what hit em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 Where possiblle all of those should be first team, not JPT. They have Champs and other experience and need to be playing. Youth like Castanheira who havent yet made the first team should be JPT, Yep, see my post straight after the first one. More advanced younger players should be in first team squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted May 21, 2013 Report Share Posted May 21, 2013 I would like to see Krans and Burns as part of the first team squad next year to compliment Taylor, Baldock and Davies. Due to financial fair play and long contracts for Baldock and Davies it doesn't look as if though we will have to sell them. If we keep hold of them and have those 5 strikers at our disposal next season we will be looking strong in the forward line that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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