Negan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Tonight's starting line up Hart Johnson Cahill Jageilka Baines Walcott Lampard Carrick Jones Milner Rooney Thoughts? Think we'll get beat tonight, The squad looks pretty weak. As long as Neymar doesn't score ill be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I want England to win but I am more looking forward to seeing how the Brazilians play and what the refurbed stadium is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Tonight's starting line up Hart Johnson Cahill Jageilka Baines Walcott Lampard Carrick Jones Milner Rooney Thoughts? Think we'll get beat tonight, The squad looks pretty weak. As long as Neymar doesn't score ill be happy Shows how limited our resources are, premier league my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Tonight's starting line up Hart Johnson Cahill Jageilka Baines Walcott Lampard Carrick Jones Milner Rooney Thoughts? Think we'll get beat tonight, The squad looks pretty weak. As long as Neymar doesn't score ill be happy Only 3 players out of the 11 that won the domestic title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Shows how limited our resources are, premier league my arse. Exactly, interesting stat I heard today. In the Champions league final the two German teams had 14 German players. In our FA Cup final the two English teams had 3 English players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Exactly, interesting stat I heard today. In the Champions league final the two German teams had 14 German players. In our FA Cup final the two English teams had 3 English players. Money, Money, Money. Looking at the England side how many are good enough to make a living abroad?, not too many IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Weakest England team we have ever had, i blame the premier league, need to revamp our league like the German's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Money, Money, Money. Looking at the England side how many are good enough to make a living abroad?, not too many IMO. None IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 None IMO! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 wooo hoooo Rooney up top by himself. perfect when he goes into child in playground mode and ends up at left or right back demanding the ball. master-stroke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 . . . . . .. Cesar; Alves, Silva, Luiz, Luis; . .Gustavo, Paulinho; Hulk, . . Oscar, Neymar; . . . . . . . Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Said it in the Ireland thread.. I'd rather sit and watch England play something like Hart, Walker, Caulker, Jones, Shaw, Chalobah, Wilshere, Hughes, Zaha, Sturridge, Oxlade-Chamberlain Atleast the attacking side of that team all have some modern technical ability instead of the likes of Milner and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Said it in the Ireland thread.. I'd rather sit and watch England play something like Hart, Walker, Caulker, Jones, Shaw, Rodwell, Wilshere, Hughes, Zaha, Sturridge, Oxlade-Chamberlain Atleast the attacking side of that team all have some modern technical ability instead of the likes of Milner and others. Most of that line up are grossly overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Does anybody on here rate Milner? I cant stand him (as a footballer that is) I don't see what he brings, Doesn't track back enough, Not fast, Not skilful and wouldn't say he was creative. Don't know what he brings to the table (watch him band in a hat-trick tonight) It is indeed a very weak side, We must be the only half decent country with only 1 decent striker. Say Rooney has a career ending injury who is there after him? He is over rated in my eyes but without him our strike force is terrible. Maybe Maynard can bang a few in for Cardiff and get noticed in time for the 2014 WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Most of that line up are grossly overrated. But the current line up are overrated after they've reached their full potential, these can get alot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Most of that line up are grossly overrated. Aye indeed, Wilshere I would have as one there who could play abroad, he does have the technique and awareness to do it. Shame that he looks like going the way of Darren Anderton and will be perpetually injured! The others, just as bad as what has gone before them, not real technical ability or awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 mouldy mildew Milner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 how milner gets in the side gotta be one of the biggest mysteries going absolute catspiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Aye indeed, Wilshere I would have as one there who could play abroad, he does have the technique and awareness to do it. Shame that he looks like going the way of Darren Anderton and will be perpetually injured! The others, just as bad as what has gone before them, not real technical ability or awareness. Wilfried Zaha and Will Hughes have loads of talent and ability. Sturridge is starting to find himself now at Liverpool and once given regular starts with England he will score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Said it in the Ireland thread.. I'd rather sit and watch England play something like Hart, Walker, Caulker, Jones, Shaw, Chalobah, Wilshere, Hughes, Zaha, Sturridge, Oxlade-Chamberlain Atleast the attacking side of that team all have some modern technical ability instead of the likes of Milner and others. Didnt the FA say after our dismal display at the world cup that they would be bringing the young lads through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Said it in the Ireland thread.. I'd rather sit and watch England play something like Hart, Walker, Caulker, Jones, Shaw, Chalobah, Wilshere, Hughes, Zaha, Sturridge, Oxlade-Chamberlain Atleast the attacking side of that team all have some modern technical ability instead of the likes of Milner and others. Not bad, I do think we need to play the youngsters more regularly now and get them used to playing with each other. Just hope we can be more creative formation wise, 4-4-2 is typical England. Wouldn't mind seeing something like this -----------------Hart-------------- Walker Caulker Jones Gibbs ----Rodwell------Cleverly------ Walcott ---Wilshere -------OX -------------Sturridge------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 But the current line up are overrated after they've reached their full potential, these can get alot better. and when and where did we hear that old pony before, oh yes about 10 years ago, all talk no action, everybody knows that England's position in the worlds rankings is bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest what's going wrong? Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 If you don't rate Milner you don't know football. Excellent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Wilfried Zaha and Will Hughes have loads of talent and ability. Sturridge is starting to find himself now at Liverpool and once given regular starts with England he will score goals. Zaha has ability to run at people, you need more than that, he has no awareness about others and his control of the ball when not in front of him is average at best. Will Hughes I shall bow to your greater knowledge, I haven't seen enough of the guy to offer an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest what's going wrong? Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Not bad, I do think we need to play the youngsters more regularly now and get them used to playing with each other. Just hope we can me more creative formation wise, 4-4-2 is typical England. Wouldn't mind seeing something like this -----------------Hart-------------- Walker Caulker Jones Gibbs ----Rodwell------Cleverly------ Walcott ---Wilshere -------OX -------------Sturridge------------ Walker is shit, Rodwell has hamstrings made of cheesestrings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 If you don't rate Milner you don't know football. Excellent player. international class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Zaha has ability to run at people, you need more than that, he has no awareness about others and his control of the ball when not in front of him is average at best. Will Hughes I shall bow to your greater knowledge, I haven't seen enough of the guy to offer an opinion. Now he's going to Manchester Utd who will improve him no end. Will Hughes is another who plays like he could fit into La Liga. Barcelona are keeping an eye on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Would say this is one of the weaker Brazil sides in recent memory plus their form is relatively patchy as well. They'll still beat us though, so 3-1 Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Not bad, I do think we need to play the youngsters more regularly now and get them used to playing with each other. Just hope we can be more creative formation wise, 4-4-2 is typical England. Wouldn't mind seeing something like this -----------------Hart-------------- Walker Caulker Jones Gibbs ----Rodwell------Cleverly------ Walcott ---Wilshere -------OX -------------Sturridge------------ Chalobah will get more caps than Rodwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Now he's going to Manchester Utd who will improve him no end. Will Hughes is another who plays like he could fit into La Liga. Barcelona are keeping an eye on him. of course they did such a wonderful job with Ashley Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 of course they did such a wonderful job with Ashley Young. He joined Utd when he was 25. Zaha is joining at the age of 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_Lemon Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 3-0 Brasil. Neymar first goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Baines, Lampard and Rooney the only 3 who merit a game in an international team, the rest not up to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Tonight's starting line up Hart Johnson Cahill Jageilka Baines Walcott Lampard Carrick Jones Milner Rooney Thoughts? Think we'll get beat tonight, The squad looks pretty weak. As long as Neymar doesn't score ill be happy I'd like to see Walker instead of Johnson, can't defend. Family hatred. I'd rather see Oxlande Chamberlain instead of Milner and Caulker getting near the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Now he's going to Manchester Utd who will improve him no end. Will Hughes is another who plays like he could fit into La Liga. Barcelona are keeping an eye on him. I bet he hardly plays, honestly i really don't see anything in the bloke other than a direct headless chicken. Certainly I cannot see him being close to international class, he will have to play a lot for Manu Or a Premiership club he is loaned to. He needs to improve a hell of a lot. just not sure you can improve a player like that without ruining what he is good at. If he turns into the next Ronaldo, great, I just don't think he has the awareness of what is happening around him, One thing is for sure, if he plays for man u, he will get his head bitten off by his team mates for trying some of the stuff he does at palace, so I hope he is a quick learner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Chalobah will get more caps than Rodwell. Probably right but you never know with football. One season you could have a shocker, then the next you could be one of the worlds best. Take bale for example. Now shhhh everyone the very entertaining Adrian Chiles is talking.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 He joined Utd when he was 25. Zaha is joining at the age of 20. Ah, I see you can't teach an old dog (of 25) new tricks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest what's going wrong? Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 international class? Clearly international class... World class? No. How many midfielders do we have that could jump into a Spain or Germany side, however? Wilshere when he's at his very best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Not bad, I do think we need to play the youngsters more regularly now and get them used to playing with each other. Just hope we can be more creative formation wise, 4-4-2 is typical England. Wouldn't mind seeing something like this -----------------Hart-------------- Walker Caulker Jones Gibbs ----Rodwell------Cleverly------ Walcott ---Wilshere -------OX -------------Sturridge------------ if you wanna play those players, swap Wilshere and Cleverly IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest what's going wrong? Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Baines, Lampard and Rooney the only 3 who merit a game in an international team, the rest not up to it How the **** does Rooney deserve it but not Carrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 of course they did such a wonderful job with Ashley Young. Bit unfair Esmond, He's learnt to dive..... really well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Clearly international class... World class? No. How many midfielders do we have that could jump into a Spain or Germany side, however? Wilshere when he's at his very best? I think what you really mean is international class? No, England class? unfortunately yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Ah, I see you can't teach an old dog (of 25) new tricks? Young was never as good as Zaha when he was 20, Zaha should and probably will become a much better player than Young when he's 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Bit unfair Esmond, He's learnt to dive..... really well True and he is a budding european hide seek champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Walker is shit, Rodwell has hamstrings made of cheesestrings. Walker is better than Johnson. I've seen both play for England and Walker play for Spurs, way better IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I bet he hardly plays, honestly i really don't see anything in the bloke other than a direct headless chicken. Certainly I cannot see him being close to international class, he will have to play a lot for Manu Or a Premier League club he is loaned to. He needs to improve a hell of a lot. just not sure you can improve a player like that without ruining what he is good at. If he turns into the next Ronaldo, great, I just don't think he has the awareness of what is happening around him, One thing is for sure, if he plays for man u, he will get his head bitten off by his team mates for trying some of the stuff he does at palace, so I hope he is a quick learner But hes young, has only played league football, i think for 3 years and is now going to be training and playing with better players and coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 How the **** does Rooney deserve it but not Carrick? Rooney is over hyped gash Carrick, someone I think we should and could utilise better. Still our only World class player is Cole, and he is in his 30's now. Shocking really, but say all you need to know about English footballers. Ferdinand elluded to what some of us have been saying for years. Just a shame he wasn't more vocal on it through out his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest what's going wrong? Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I think what you really mean is international class? No, England class? unfortunately yes. Correct Esmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Young was never as good as Zaha when he was 20, Zaha should and probably will become a much better player than Young when he's 25. Hedging your bets now from will to should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 How the **** does Rooney deserve it but not Carrick? Rooney has had good games for England, must admit not many lately but has the ability, Carrick has not had much of a run in the England team but has not shown a lot in my opinion, particularly against Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 But hes young, has only played league football, i think for 3 years and is now going to be training and playing with better players and coaches You are right, he is young, but top players show a bit of control and poise even when you, you can see a top top player a mile off, Zaha doesn't show that for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Weakest England team we have ever had, i blame the premier league, need to revamp our league like the German's Doesn't look strong! However the weakest England team was fielded in about 81 against Scotland at wembley Graham Rix was centre forward and we were truly awful....The place was packed with Jocks (the FA tried to limit the tickets to Scotland) The Sweaty next to me was holding a banner 'even Sutcliffe got a ticket'...(The Yorkshire Ripper for the young uns) I get to watch England V Brazil and USA V Germany...A fun afternoon I hope!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 How much longer have ITV got the England franchise for? I shall watch it with the sound off, can't stand their presentation, and as for that putty faced Brummie****..... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest what's going wrong? Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Walker is better than Johnson. I've seen both play for England and Walker play for Spurs, way better IMO! Did you know that Johnson had 16 clean sheets last season in the Prem? The most for a defender last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Does anybody on here rate Milner? I cant stand him (as a footballer that is) I don't see what he brings, Doesn't track back enough, Not fast, Not skilful and wouldn't say he was creative. Don't know what he brings to the table (watch him band in a hat-trick tonight) It is indeed a very weak side, We must be the only half decent country with only 1 decent striker. Say Rooney has a career ending injury who is there after him? He is over rated in my eyes but without him our strike force is terrible. Maybe Maynard can bang a few in for Cardiff and get noticed in time for the 2014 WC I rate Milner. I'd say he does track back, possibly works harder than anyone else which is why he is in the team. I don't agree with his selection though. But then I wouldn't have any of em. Except Baines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Did you know that Johnson had 16 clean sheets last season in the Prem? The most for a defender last season. Coincidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I think England missing out on qualification for the World Cup would be what it would take for the FA to scrap everything and go back to square 1. New manager New philosophy New domestic rules More beneficial friendlies instead of pointless ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Who would we have now as manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I think England missing out on qualification for the World Cup would be what it would take for the FA to scrap everything and go back to square 1. New manager New philosophy New domestic rules More beneficial friendlies instead of pointless ones. You are dreaming again young Jordan, Mr Murdoch and FA gravy train would never allow it, far too much money involved, why do think Sir Trev got so pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Did you know that Johnson had 16 clean sheets last season in the Prem? The most for a defender last season. I didn't. Still don't rate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 What sort of shite midfield is that? Is he trying to bore Brazil to death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 You are right, he is young, but top players show a bit of control and poise even when you, you can see a top top player a mile off, Zaha doesn't show that for me True. Ive seen him play well and show control and poise but then again ive seen him play and he hasnt shown any and being a city fan not a palace fan i havent a clue how he plays consistently. It will be interesting to see what happens with him at man utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I think England missing out on qualification for the World Cup would be what it would take for the FA to scrap everything and go back to square 1. New manager New philosophy New domestic rules More beneficial friendlies instead of pointless ones. I think England missing out on qualification for the World Cup would be what it would take for the FA to scrap everything and go back to square 1. New manager New philosophy New domestic rules More beneficial friendlies instead of pointless ones. I'm not sure the FA would really care! The problem is the FA & Premier League are the same organization effectively. The Premier League itself generates such enormous revenues that no one cares about England. Sure if we fail to qualify there will be the usual indignant sound bites and promises of change, but at the expense of the Premier League, not a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Keep an eye out for the Brazilian babes. Will be the only thing that will put a smile on England fans faces tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 For anyone who is interested the USA have gone one up against the Krauts! Brilliant volley by Altador! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Quite like our away kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well we are clearly over rating Brazil. We should beat them with them being ranked 19th http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 2-0 USA Nightmare OG by the krauts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well we are clearly over rating Brazil. We should beat them with them being ranked 19th http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html their lowest position in the fifa rankings ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 their lowest position in the fifa rankings ever! Not surprising, no wc qualifying games = small points scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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