fka dagest Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Fellow Reds, I wonder, which clubs would you describe as 'massive' or as a 'sleeping giant'? I know those terms have been used about us before, but who else can you think of? Bradford City? What about this one (last sentence)? http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/s-plenty-potential-non-league-scene-says-new/story-19396990-detail/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 We are neither a massive club or a sleeping giant. For a city the size of Bristol you could argue that we have underacheived throughout our history compared to clubs like Nottingham Forest and Ipswich for example. Genuine sleeping giants IMO: Preston North End Sheffield Utd Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric04 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 What defines massive? Historical success on top flight & cups? Size of stadium? Average crowds? Historically big attendances? A large potential fan base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 What defines massive? Historical success on top flight & cups? Size of stadium? Average crowds? Historically big attendances? A large potential fan base? A bit of all of it, Bristol City in league one are a sleeping giant, we should be Championship at least. Bristol Rovers in League Two are a sleeping giant, they should be a League One club where they have been for the bulk of their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fka dagest Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Aww come on. I was getting at the comments in the link I posted. Surely I'm not the only one who finds them slight amusing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 yeah, you could argue for a city the size of Bristol both teams should do better. We are neither a massive club or a sleeping giant. For a city the size of Bristol you could argue that we have underacheived throughout our history compared to clubs like Nottingham Forest and Ipswich for example.Genuine sleeping giants IMO: Preston North End Sheffield Utd Wolves agree with all of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Basically I read that as the gas saying they have no money for decent signings so expect no. League players on the cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Preston, no way, famous old club yes, but giant nah, their crowds even when doing relatively well don't warrent it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Sleeping Giant...... Such a ridiculous phrase used in football. A club deserves to be where they are, history is history. Wolves are a very big club, so are Sheffield United but neither are sleeping giants. No club is a sleeping giant imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalky Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 What defines massive? Historical success on top flight & cups? Size of stadium? Average crowds? Historically big attendances? A large potential fan base? Average crowds is the number 1 factor for me. The club is it's fans - large fan base equals large club, currently we have a medium to low sized fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Sleeping Giant...... Such a ridiculous phrase used in football. A club deserves to be where they are, history is history. Wolves are a very big club, so are Sheffield United but neither are sleeping giants. No club is a sleeping giant imo. Sheffield Utd - 60 years in the top flight (according to Wiki), FA Cup winners 4 times, Former League Champions, now struggling to get out of League 1. Wolves have been league Champions 3 times and FA Cup winners 4 times and will be hosting teams like Stevenage and Gillingham next year. Personally I think they can be described as 'sleeping giants', but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 For me a massive club is a club with huge fan base, masses of revenue, state of the art facilities and a team that is respected throughout football. Real Madrid Bayern Munich Manchester United The 3 biggest clubs in football worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Preston, no way, famous old club yes, but giant nah, their crowds even when doing relatively well don't warrent it ! You've got a point. I was looking at it from the perspective of how successful they were in the Pre War era but you're definitely right that their crowds can't compete with other clubs in the North West like Man City who had very large attendances even in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 For me a massive club is a club with huge fan base, masses of revenue, state of the art facilities and a team that is respected throughout football. Real Madrid Bayern Munich Manchester United The 3 biggest clubs in football worldwide. I know. No one follows those pesky little Italian sides. Nothing clubs. I mean what have Milan ever achieved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Leeds are a sleeping giant. They have fans everywhere, they have always travelled in good numbers wherever they have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I know. No one follows those pesky little Italian sides. Nothing clubs. I mean what have Milan ever achieved? Outside of Italy they aren't followed anywhere near in the same way as Madrid, Bayern and United. They don't make anywhere near as much revenue. They have a rich history but Juventus are still the most followed club in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Sleeping Giants? Hard to define really, Arseal and Everton are huge clubs who haven't won anything for a while. Do they count? As for Rovers, below the satndard they should be at, probably, but certainly not a sleeping giant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 for me leeds are and Liverpool :laugh: poss both Sheffield clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KastandenBCFC Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 For me a massive club is a club with huge fan base, masses of revenue, state of the art facilities and a team that is respected throughout football. Real Madrid Bayern Munich Manchester United The 3 biggest clubs in football worldwide. Barcelona :laugh:??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Barcelona ??????? They are recently one of the most successful but Madrid, Munich and Utd are the top 3 in terms of fanbases and business/money making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Red Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Leeds , Forest ? City or the gas could both be massive if either had a long run in the top league ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Leeds, Blackburn, Wolves, Steel City, Bradford, Us, Gas, Plymouth, Birmingham, Forest, Derby plus many others could fall into this category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Portsmouth in league 2 will be the best supported team in that (or even our) league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 What defines massive? Historical success on top flight & cups? Size of stadium? Average crowds? Historically big attendances? A large potential fan base? It's a difficult one, trophy's won and time in the top flight i think are the most important. But there are a few clubs with big support who had some success 40-50 years ago that have done nothing since but are still concidered big clubs i.e Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 You heard about this on here last year but judging by those comments in the Bristol Post the grapevine must be buzzing with talk of a new owner at Rovers.A recreated Team Bath at the UWE stadium ?I used to be acquainted with the chaps mother Hylda"She knows y'know" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 For me a massive club is a club with huge fan base, masses of revenue, state of the art facilities and a team that is respected throughout football. Real Madrid Bayern Munich Manchester United The 3 biggest clubs in football worldwide. You would have to add AC MILAN to that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 You would have to add AC MILAN to that list In the 4 main countries of European Football, I will say that Madrid, Munich, Man Utd and Milan are the most decorated and financially powerful. All powerhouses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Sleeping Giants? Hard to define really, Arseal and Everton are huge clubs who haven't won anything for a while. Do they count? As for Rovers, below the satndard they should be at, probably, but certainly not a sleeping giant. Is that a device that can be used when suffering from the trots ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i hate you butler Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Sheffield Wednesday Bristol rovers sleeping midgets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingUp Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Deloitte football money league 2013 1 Real Madrid 512.6m 2 Barcelona 483m 3 ManUtd 395.9m 4 BayernMunich 368.4m Money talks and it says the 2 spanish clubs are the giants (and barca have the highest capacity stadium) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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