bakes Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Pumped up for the WC now (if we get there). With that performance can't wait to play Spain in the quarter finals.... I would take the quarters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 That was a penalty for Ukriaine imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 bet the tunnel cam is rubbish too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 That was a penalty for Ukriaine imo Should have had at least 1 maybe 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 One of the worst games Ive seen in some time I have been sat at work, with only BBC and Guardian minute-by-minute reports. As regards to a quality England performance, how did it stack up with, say, the Algeria game in South Africa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Is Gascoigne out of rehab yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 I have been sat at work, with only BBC and Guardian minute-by-minute reports. As regards to a quality England performance, how did it stack up with, say, the Algeria game in South Africa? Not that bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 England are average, have been for years now. We're on par with the likes of Poland, Russia, Sweden, Czech Republic and probably France at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon. We are miles away from the likes of Spain, Germany, Holland etc!! The sooner people realise this, the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Point is ok. Could have been worse. GSTQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 That was a penalty for Ukriaine imo Never a penalty. He ran across walker. Should have booked the idiot from Ukraine not walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 England are average, have been for years now. We're on par with the likes of Poland, Russia, Sweden, Czech Republic and probably France at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon.We are miles away from the likes of Spain, Germany, Holland etc!! The sooner people realise this, the better I would really, really feel sorry for anyone who was deluded enough to think that was anywhere near our level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Never a penalty. He ran across walker. Should have booked the idiot from Ukraine not walker. I meant the one in the first 40 seconds with Joe hart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Perhaps the lack of depth in the top division will make the authorities stand up and listen. 32 per cent of players are English in the top flight. Oh wait a minute ££££££££££££££. That's better. Now what was that about international football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Question: City in 6 months time once bedded in playing against that lot. Scoreline? (At the Gate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Their players were diving all over the place, really broke the game up and ruined it. Add to that we were crap and it was pretty dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 When did we get this bad though? Any time up to 2002 I thought we had a shout and the w/c , Euros were worth watching. It's not as if we've brought Graham Taylor back. These players can pass a ball 5 yards on a saturday??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Never a penalty. He ran across walker. Should have booked the idiot from Ukraine not walker. Walker got the wrong side, had a shocker all night (not the only one mind), you can see by his reaction it was a foul. question is was it inside or out, does the line count as inside or out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 I meant the one in the first 40 seconds with Joe hart Fair enough. Although my previous comment still stands. That was no free kick/penalty and walker should not have been booked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Question: City in 6 months time once bedded in playing against that lot. Scoreline? (At the Gate) Good question! I said it earlier I genuinely believe JET is a better 'footballer' than Walcott! The difference would be the midfield of Wilshire, Gerrard and lampard! This England side would beat City by 3 or 4 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 The shame is that is pretty much the 'best' England performance we can expect at the moment - working hard, hard to beat, but clearly a long long way behind top teams in just about every aspect of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 I would really, really feel sorry for anyone who was deluded enough to think that was anywhere near our level. The way people react with a point away from home to Ukraine shows that some people still believe that. This was always going to be a tough fixture, this game was all about the result and we got that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Good question! I said it earlier I genuinely believe JET is a better 'footballer' than Walcott! The difference would be the midfield of Wilshire, Gerrard and lampard! This England side would beat City by 3 or 4 goals. I agree with the 3 or 4, I'd hope we'd nick a goal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 All we got to do now is win the next one, at home, then beat those clowns, the Pole chancers. Well, their keeper's a clown, I know that (1973!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted September 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 How low could a team beat england? Ie. could say Fulham or Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 How low could a team beat england? Ie. could say Fulham or Southampton Who gets Lambert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Most exciting part for me was turning the tv off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Some fairly harsh comments on here tonight. Clean sheet in Ukraine with Cahill and Cole outstanding in defence: Hart......7 Walker..6 Cahill....9 Jagielka.8 Cole......9 Walcott..5 Lampard.5 Gerrard...7 Wilshere..4 Milner..... 5 Lambert..7 subs. Young.....4 Cleverley..n/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Some fairly harsh comments on here tonight. Clean sheet in Ukraine with Cahill and Cole outstanding in defence: Hart......7 Walker..6 Cahill....9 Jagielka.8 Cole......9 Walcott..5 Lampard.5 Gerrard...7 Wilshere..4 Milner..... 5 Lambert..7 subs. Young.....4 Cleverley..n/s I like those ratings. Harsh but fair in many instances. About Wiltshire, Stuart Pearce has always said that if we want to be successful at International level, then players need to play in the under 21s and their tournaments to gain proper experience. The problem is that we have a small and diminishing pool of talent. As soon as someone has a good game in the Premier League, they are in the international squad. Wiltshire's performance showed this to be true. He's not really played for the under 21s and was woeful tonight. His decision making on the ball was so poor. How Sterling and Barkely are in the senior squad and not in the under 21s is amazing. We are so short sighted. We don't plan ahead. In contrast I think I'm right in saying that Michu has never been picked for Spain. Isco has hardly been picked in their squad. We need to face the facts - we are a 2nd to 3rd tier international side and to pretend we're not is futile and counter productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Just wish we'd show some innovation in our fundamental approach. England are as boring as a rainy Sunday afternoon in November; that sort of fine, perminant drizzle. I'd go SOD's law. Possibly sacrifice short term mediocracy/failure and try to gel together the country's finest young talent with a vision for 4 years from now. Address things at grass route level with a systematically employed philosophy, too. Our cricket and rugby teams have outshone our footballers because the international sides take priorety over the domestic game. I can't see that changing in football, though. Can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 England are average, have been for years now. We're on par with the likes of Poland, Russia, Sweden, Czech Republic and probably France at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon. We are miles away from the likes of Spain, Germany, Holland etc!! The sooner people realise this, the better To be fair, Holland aren't all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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