hippy273 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Since our defeat to 1-0 on the play off final in 2007, only Carey, Marv and Fontaine are the last remaining players of that team, and for the past 10 seasons we have had only 8 players that have featured over 200+ appearances. In SOD's 'transition' could you see any of our youngsters being the next Cole Skuse? or any players we have signed for that matter. On average most of our players who have made over 100 appearances for the club have lasted 4-5 seasons, But i think the temptation of wages behind the scenes moreso than the chance of playing better football (just look at League One, do you think the standard is any different from the Championship from what you've seen generally?). I think the long term regular player is a dying breed unfortunately, but something we need to see more of now we have younger players. Keeping the faith with SOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Reid and Bryan will be the next in line for the legacy. Born and raised, city through and through and actually better quality than years gone by. Looking forward to seeing them improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Agree, Bryan and Reid have promising futures. One day I hope to see a competitive City side with 8 or 9 lads that have come through the academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Joe Bryan will be captain in 5 or 6 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Bryan and Reid will get snapped up by a bigger side who can offer a better standard of football and more money in a couple of seasons if they continue to perform, circle of life lads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opeth67 Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Shouldn't think we will ever have 8 or 9 players having come through the academy playing regularly for City. There is just not enough young good enough players to go round. I think we would struggle to hit that even if we were in the Premier league. How many did Man Utd ever have regularly playing for them - and look at Man Utd's resources - kids fall over themselves to get into the Man U youth set-up, and Man U "buy" in dozens of the better kids from other clubs youth set-ups. Bet they have more kids on their books than most other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDoubleD Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Joe Morrell? People on here raved about him pre season. I'm wondering what influence Tinman is having on the youth team now he's in. From what I 'd read he'd been setting up an academy in Spain with links to some professional clubs. I wondered if we'd see a couple of Spanish kids come over. They play sod's style of football, and a bit of competition from some more technically players might help some of the other lads develop. Wouldn't want an El Swans situation, but 2 or 3 might help bring the others along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted September 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Joe Morrell? People on here raved about him pre season. I'm wondering what influence Tinman is having on the youth team now he's in. From what I 'd read he'd been setting up an academy in Spain with links to some professional clubs. I wondered if we'd see a couple of Spanish kids come over. They play sod's style of football, and a bit of competition from some more technically players might help some of the other lads develop. Wouldn't want an El Swans situation, but 2 or 3 might help bring the others along. If the Gas can have a Brazilian youngster in their youth squad, why the hell not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 If the Gas can have a Brazilian youngster in their youth squad, why the hell not Brazillian via Stoke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Joe Bryan will be captain in 5 or 6 years Hope not!! He will only still be here if he isnt good enough for the higher lever I want all the good young kids getting into the city side to be wanting us only as a stepping stone to bigger and better things If they are happy just to play at city their hunger is not strong enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 Not all academy players, but there's no reason why anyone out of Derrick Wiliams, Joe Bryan, Jordan Wynter, Bobby Reid, Wes Burns, Joe Morrell, Greg Cunningham, Marlon Pack and Jay Emmanuel Thomas can't become long-term players at our club. In fact, the fact that we have so many youngsters (every one of those is 22 or under) that are this highly rated just goes to show a) how clever SoD and KB have been in the transfer market and b) why we have to buy in to SoD's long-term vision of the club. That's 9 players all with high potential, and all signed relatively cheaply (perhaps with the exception of Cunningham and arguably JET due to the swap deal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDoubleD Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Add flint, Taylor, fielding, wagstaff, baldock and Kelly to that list. All under 25. We must have the youngest average age for a first team squad in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Not all academy players, but there's no reason why anyone out of Derrick Wiliams, Joe Bryan, Jordan Wynter, Bobby Reid, Wes Burns, Joe Morrell, Greg Cunningham, Marlon Pack and Jay Emmanuel Thomas can't become long-term players at our club. In fact, the fact that we have so many youngsters (every one of those is 22 or under) that are this highly rated just goes to show a) how clever SoD and KB have been in the transfer market and b) why we have to buy in to SoD's long-term vision of the club. That's 9 players all with high potential, and all signed relatively cheaply (perhaps with the exception of Cunningham and arguably JET due to the swap deal). They may have high potential but unfortunately many players who stay long term at AG fail to fulfil that potential and instead have a habit of stagnating rather than sreadily improving. Cole Skuse, of course, being a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 They may have high potential but unfortunately many players who stay long term at AG fail to fulfil that potential and instead have a habit of stagnating rather than sreadily improving. Cole Skuse, of course, being a prime example. Being a regular in a Championship side would class as fulfilled potential for any one of the examples I listed in my opinion. To what extent has Cole Skuse failed to reach his potential? Did any City fan think that he'd be a Premier League player as a youngster? I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Not all academy players, but there's no reason why anyone out of Derrick Wiliams, Joe Bryan, Jordan Wynter, Bobby Reid, Wes Burns, Joe Morrell, Greg Cunningham, Marlon Pack and Jay Emmanuel Thomas can't become long-term players at our club. In fact, the fact that we have so many youngsters (every one of those is 22 or under) that are this highly rated just goes to show a) how clever SoD and KB have been in the transfer market and b) why we have to buy in to SoD's long-term vision of the club. That's 9 players all with high potential, and all signed relatively cheaply (perhaps with the exception of Cunningham and arguably JET due to the swap deal). Is one way of looking at it. Another is a) more of the players you mention were here pre-SOD and KB and b) they failed to address a need for adequate reinforcements at the back and we are left with short-term remedies (and another loan recruit in the offing it seems - another short term remedy) for an area needing improvement for about 3 seasons and such an imperative area. I'm not saying they've been bad in the market, but it is a bit like the criticism levelled at Del last summer... The players brought in were decent, its just one massiveN gaping hole has still been left to be filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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