Calculus Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Today's draw: Portugal v Sweden France v Ukraine Greece v Romania Iceland v Croatia Personally will be cheering on Ukraine and Sweden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Ukraine, Sweden, Romania and Iceland hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's crazy that teams such as Portugal, France, Ukraine or Sweden might not be there when the mighty Honduras will be. Obviously it is the World cup and there needs to be teams from around the world there but surely all the best teams also need to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's crazy that teams such as Portugal, France, Ukraine or Sweden might not be there when the mighty Honduras will be. Obviously it is the World cup and there needs to be teams from around the world there but surely all the best teams also need to be there. Will be very funny if in 2022 Qatar qualify by virtue of hosting and a real massive powerhouse like Brazil, Argies, Spain or Germany fail to qualify. Easy to pick holes in the qualification process but there are not really many alternative suggestions other than further European weighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I would much prefer France and Portugual to be there. You want to see the best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 If France get through, will they be seeded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 If France get through, will they be seeded? No i think Portugal will though? (not 100% sure on that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Will be very funny if in 2022 Qatar qualify by virtue of hosting and a real massive powerhouse like Brazil, Argies, Spain or Germany fail to qualify. Easy to pick holes in the qualification process but there are not really many alternative suggestions other than further European weighting. This is the problem though- is it heavily weighted for European teams?. From South America- Brazil qualified as hosts. 4 out of 9 automatically qualify and Uruguay will more than likely dispatch Jordan in the intercontinental playoffs. From Central America 3 out of 6 automatically qualify and another could get through in the intercontinental playoffs. 9 European teams automatically qualify from 53 teams. Then 4 in the playoffs.. Just because there are more European teams doesn't mean it is particularly weighted in their favour. It is more a feat to qualify from Europe than any other continent imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 ON It's crazy that teams such as Portugal, France, Ukraine or Sweden might not be there when the mighty Honduras will be. Obviously it is the World cup and there needs to be teams from around the world there but surely all the best teams also need to be there. The best teams will be, by virtue of winning their group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 ON The best teams will be, by virtue of winning their group. Honduras didn't win their group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Iceland, change of faces. the Ukraine,sweeden, Romania I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Romania had a great era up until about 2000, ok they didn't win anything vut were generally rather good! Hagi etc. Would be good to see them back but in a way, if only Turkey got 2nd, would have been a real ferocious 2 legged game Greece-Turkey for a place in WC! No love lost there... Would say France, Greece, Portugal, Croatia to go through though none of them really nailed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Honduras didn't win their group. Obviously, but their group was large so more than one qualified. I meant the best European teams. If France or Portugal couldn't win their group then they are no longer among the best teams in Europe, let alone the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Romania had a great era up until about 2000, ok they didn't win anything vut were generally rather good! Hagi etc. Would be good to see them back but in a way, if only Turkey got 2nd, would have been a real ferocious 2 legged game Greece-Turkey for a place in WC! No love lost there... Would say France, Greece, Portugal, Croatia to go through though none of them really nailed on. Wouldn't have happened! It's usually rigged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Wouldn't have happened! It's usually rigged. The safest bet before the play offs draw was that Portugal would not be drawn against France, and that France would get the 'easiest' of the seeds, i.e. Ukraine. Surprise surprise..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Wouldn't have happened! It's usually rigged. I guess, I remember in 2010 it was definitely rigged when France and Portugal were in playoffs! Still Greece-Turkey would have been fantastic 2 legger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 The safest bet before the play offs draw was that Portugal would not be drawn against France, and that France would get the 'easiest' of the seeds, i.e. Ukraine. Surprise surprise..... I'd say Iceland were the easiest not Ukrane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 No i think Portugal will though? (not 100% sure on that) The last seeding place for the WC draw will go to Uruguay if they beat Jordan over two games. If Jordan some how qualify, Holland would take the last seeding position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'd say Iceland were the easiest not Ukrane Agreed. Ukraine are underrated a bit if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedYoshi Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'd say Iceland were the easiest not Ukrane Iceland weren't seeded for the playoffs. The four seeds were Portugal, Greece, Croatia, and Ukraine. France could only face one of these four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Obviously, but their group was large so more than one qualified. I meant the best European teams. If France or Portugal couldn't win their group then they are no longer among the best teams in Europe, let alone the world. You are of course right- I always forget that they have several rounds before the final group stage in the central America pot. Still doesn't change the fact that France and Portugal are better teams and I would want as many of the better teams there as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Australia have made the finals several times. They do so by beating the likes of Guam and Tahiti. It has been suggested that in this day& age of jet transport, FIFA could do away with continent based qualifying groups and have all nations liable to be in a pool with any other nation. The only deciding factor would be as now, current standings in FIFA's list. Getting to a play off game, according to "The Telegraph" even took the Icelanders themselves by surprise. Sunderland has a bigger population than Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Australia have made the finals several times. They do so by beating the likes of Guam and Tahiti. To be fair, didn't they ask to be moved into the Asia group to make their qualification harder and thus test them more (competition improves the breed philosophy) As for me, I'd really like Iceland to get there simply because they'd be a breath of fresh air rather than the stale old French/Portuguese/Sweden, etc. Like with New Zealand last time, everyone got behind them simply because their being there was kind of amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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