The Right Honourable Les Q Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Well, as the big game kicks off across the water, I thought I'd pass on some interesting points from articles on the south Wales success story. 1. Huw Jenkins, the Swans chairman, "the biggest thing you need...is belief that you can compete, because we've encountered reasons why we couldn't compete right throughout each division we were in." Then, "we have to make sure whoever comes in to manage, coach and play for us in future, they can't be talking about different levels of leagues within a league. To me, that is complete failure." He was referring here to the idea that Swansea might have achieved as much as they could be expected to, in the past two years and that they could never hope to take points off the top 6 or 7 Prem clubs. That there was/is a defeatist attitude, amongst some "players and staff" there when contemplating games v. Arsenal, Chelsea, Mans C and U, etc. In other words, he expects to take points off them. Also, "that's the biggest challenge I've got (that attitude), to make sure that turns around and that everybody working with the club believes...we can compete, irrespective of the size of the club OR BUDGETS." FFS!! In my view, once the five or six overpaid failures from last year are gone and no longer holding us back, financially, the noises coming out of AG need to change, to become more upbeat, more 'Can-do,' more bloody positive and hopeful. Not "the Prem in two years" but just encouraging. What would Jenkins make of the downbeat messages flowing our way for months? Don't think SOD will be getting a call from Mr. Jenkins any time, soon. Shame, Sean would enjoy living in The Mumbles. Finally, on this, "we tend to talk about things in the wrong way. We don't see every game as a winnable game, which is not right and it's not our mentality." Huw Jenkins, Swansea chairman. Okay, they've got good/ better players and a great coach, etc. But some upbeat, positivity would not go amiss. "Irrespective of budgets" we should be looking to beat sides in this League. Have we not lowered our sights low enough, now? The bar can't be set too much lower. 2. Jenkins talks about buying players with room for improvement, rather than expensive, finished article types. Someone put up a thread about who have we improved. It's a good point. Look at Shorey! 3. The article ends, 'attractive to watch on the pitch and well run off it, Swansea's model is widely viewed as the blueprint for clubs across all levels to follow, even if the signing-in book remains blank. "NOBODY HAS COME TO VISIT US, EVER," Jenkins says. "I suppose it does surprise me you a little bit." Jon, Sean, Steve (if you're around): how about a trip west along the M4. I'll even drive you there myself. And pay the bloody bridge toll. Ffs. 4. On a lighter note, apparently, Vincent "do these trousers look okay with this red top over my collared shirt?" Tan is surrounded by people who tell him how great he is. And this might be contributing to some of his unorthodox "decision making." I think we should let him know he is wonderful and that there is no reason why he should not have a more "hands-on" role in the coaching and selection of the first team. Perhaps Jon, Sean, Steve and me can drop in to see Vince on our way to Swansea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Come on Swansea. Looks like it could be 0-0 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonshire Red Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Looks like the selling out way of being in the Premier League is going to beat the 'blueprint'. Tbh Swansea have not looked good whatsoever since their league cup success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Looks like the selling out way of being in the Premier League is going to beat the 'blueprint'. Tbh Swansea have not looked good whatsoever since their league cup success. I think Valencia might have a different view on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think Valencia might have a different view on that. Valencia are not the team they were, crippled with debt. Plus they were down to 10 men after a defender was sent off after 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InCider Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think Valencia might have a different view on that. I wonder if playing in the UEFA league has effected their league form. Seems to happen a lot, tbf. Suddenly it's difficult to cope with so many games and still a relatively small squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonshire Red Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Shame. Tan will be getting the ladyboys in tonight that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Clark Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Dear oh Dear .Defeat for our beloved Swansea.I wonder if there was a thread on Cardiff or Swanseas forums when we played the gas?.....I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS34Red Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 But doesn't SOD always focus on the positives just like your suggesting we do? Yet he always get grief for doing just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted November 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Well, the idea was to point out that 1. Swansea do not appear to share or have succeeded with O'Driscoll's downbeat worldview, and 2. No-one has been to pick their brains down there. Where people go with the thread, not my doing. The articles I read are in the paper today, because the game is today. I'm not sure SOD's can't(-be-expected-to-)do, gloomy public pronouncements are helping right now. Perhaps he's different with the players, away from the cameras and people with dopey questions. Perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Friday's ghost Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 The Swansea model starts with going into administration twice. I think this is something you could adopt - you've done it once already obviously and are free-falling with your main investor losing interest rapidly. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 The Swansea model starts with going into administration twice. I think this is something you could adopt - you've done it once already obviously and are free-falling with your main investor losing interest rapidly. Good luck. Didn't your team have a game today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Friday's ghost Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Didn't your team have a game today? We did actually. Premier League derby. We won 1-0. I'm home now. How did you get on this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 We did actually. Premier League derby. We won 1-0. I'm home now. How did you get on this weekend? OK, well done, I would have thought that might have been your first thought, not about the woes of a small 1st division club, but hey ho it takes all kinds to make the strange world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I can't believe those pathetic fans.They just beat their local rivals, noPitch invasions, no trying to attack away fans, no throwing corner flags at away fansNot even anyone trying to fight a police horse.They celebrated in their seats in a grown up adult manner!!!I bet none of them even got arrested!!!Unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Nah Cardiff have gone soft roll back 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Come on RFG, I hope I haven't upset you, but every time you come on here you forget to actually speak to us about football, like how your team are playing. But I bet always remember your first blow job and how long it took for the guy to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 The Swansea model starts with going into administration twice. I think this is something you could adopt - you've done it once already obviously and are free-falling with your main investor losing interest rapidly. Good luck. Wow. For so many reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 The Swansea model starts with going into administration twice. I think this is something you could adopt - you've done it once already obviously and are free-falling with your main investor losing interest rapidly. Good luck. At least we, and Swansea, still have our soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonshire Red Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 The Swansea model starts with going into administration twice. I think this is something you could adopt - you've done it once already obviously and are free-falling with your main investor losing interest rapidly. Good luck. Hate to bite but have your horrible little club paid back all the money owed to the HMRC yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not one arrest at welsh derby today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not one arrest at welsh derby today Which they'll use as evidence that the Bubble works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS34Red Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 We did actually. Premier League derby. We won 1-0. I'm home now. How did you get on this weekend?But it wasn't actually Cardiff City, aka the bluebirds playing was it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocturne Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 The Swansea model starts with going into administration twice. I think this is something you could adopt - you've done it once already obviously and are free-falling with your main investor losing interest rapidly. Good luck. And having the local council build you a new stadium that you're allowed to use free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not one arrest at welsh derby today Fair play, puts our fans to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 We did actually. Premier League derby. We won 1-0. I'm home now. How did you get on this weekend? I saw it. I thought you played in blue? Seemed to be a team in red playing Swansea? Signs for Malaysia everywhere too. Have you moved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2486667/Cardiff-City-fans-protest-owner-Vincent-Tan-wake-victory-rivals-Swansea-City.html Turned the lights out on your own fans who wanted to protest? What sort of Asian Dictatorship have you become? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Friday's ghost Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2486667/Cardiff-City-fans-protest-owner-Vincent-Tan-wake-victory-rivals-Swansea-City.html Turned the lights out on your own fans who wanted to protest? What sort of Asian Dictatorship have you become? I was in the Canton stand for 20 minutes or so after final whistle and they were on then. Still I suppose if was in the Daily Mirror it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Friday's ghost Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 And having the local council build you a new stadium that you're allowed to use free of charge. Shhhh you'll spoil the story about how financially astute they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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