SecretSam Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Given that SO'D has struggled to get both decent performances and results (and we went down anyway), and that Del has apparently done OK up in Aberdeen, does anyone here think perhaps Del should have been given more time? Don't get me wrong - I'm not an SO'D knocker, in fact I'm right behind him and think he's the man to turn us round - but is this a case that we pulled the trigger too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nope. Del was at fault for changing the back four almost every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 No. Next question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Fixing Bristol City is a huge job. McInnes is a good manager but the job was too big for a man of his experience. Given unlimited time, I think he'd have relegated us and then eventually built a successful side, exactly as O'Driscoll is doing, but either way we get relegated. The way to have avoided last season's relegation would have been to appoint O'Driscoll (or possibly McInnes) immediately after Johnson left and even that probably would have gone badly given the way the board was operating back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 No, his time was definitely up. It wasn't working and wasn't improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 13, 2013 Admin Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Looking back I'm not sure his connections within the English game were up to scratch. There is a big difference between the English and Scots leagues and think this was where he was found out Where as SO'D clearly has a bigger network around the game. You only have to look at the type of quality each manager has brought in to see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 He had too long on my opinion. A change earlier in the season may have kept us up. But we'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 No. Lovely bloke but out of his depth and made some amateur mistakes. Should have gone way before he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 The board announced the change of direction, "invest in youth", announced that he was the ideal man to see us through that process (a process he had already laid the foundations for), then sacked him 3 days later........ seems fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 No. Didn't have a clue what his best 11 were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I agree he didn't have the right support around him. If only we could of had his own Keith Burt, or even Burt himself. A real shame it didn't work out for him here, very much our loss (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Nope. Del was at fault for changing the back four almost every game. Indeed - and the shape of the team on the pitch. I don't think the players understood their roles very well. it could be 4-3-3, then 5-3-2 etc, all in the same game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Indeed - and the shape of the team on the pitch. I don't think the players understood their roles very well. it could be 4-3-3, then 5-3-2 etc, all in the same game! The curious thing about that is that at St Johnstone he played 4-4-2 nearly every game he managed them. He couldn't get 4-4-2 working down here and his plan b, c, d, e, f etc all failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 NO! Next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 OK, by common consensus it's a "No". Think the comment above about his lack of knowledge of the English game/contacts is a good one - with better support he might have worked better, but agree on the formation/tactics front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 He is a good manager I had the privilege to meet him and he showed me how he laid out tactics all over the changing room and like Mourinho players had personal plans. As stated already in this thread building Bristol City back up from the ground is a huge task. A task that Mcinnes was too inexperienced to do..(not long ago he was the centre of everything that was good about West Brom) He wanted to come in and spend money and build a team but was told use what you got. Fair enough you can't continue to lose 40m a year. Whatever outcome we were going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 OK, by common consensus it's a "No". Think the comment above about his lack of knowledge of the English game/contacts is a good one - with better support he might have worked better, but agree on the formation/tactics front Rubbish he spent most of his career in the championship notably West Brom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 He was allowed to bring in his own staff, which he did with gusto! he must have halved the unemployment rate of washed up, failed, Scottish footballer managers ! Had he appointed a Dof it would no doubt have been somebody of the same dubious quality as the rest of his appointments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah because Baldock and Davies are awful players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 The one word answer to the question is NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah because Baldock and Davies are awful players If you were a neutral who came along this season and watched Baldock, you would say yes to that part of the statement,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah because Baldock and Davies are awful players Well Baldock certainly ain't C'ship quality and Davies was constantly unfit. Far from great buys either of them, very poor value for money in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 If you were a neutral who came along this season and watched Baldock, you would say yes to that part of the statement,. No you would say Jesus Christ this team can't provide service to save their lives Or Why do they bang the ball up to a player who is 5ft3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 13, 2013 Admin Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Rubbish he spent most of his career in the championship notably West Brom What has that got to do with knowing the English game? He played just over two seasons at West Brom compared to 16 in Scotland You only have to look who he surrounded himself with to realise nobody had any experience of managing in the Championship. That league is a massive gulf away from what he was used to in the SPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 13, 2013 Admin Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Why do they bang the ball up to a player who is 5ft3 Just to be pedantic he is 5ft 7, about time he adapted his game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Rubbish he spent most of his career in the championship notably West Brom No he did not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Not sure he was the problem. The team he had was almost unanimously voted to be sold/let go/released last season as we felt that were either poor, or just did not care... From memory only Moloney, Cunningham and Baldock from are entire team were on peoples retention list.. Maybe if Del had caught onto the fact players just going through the motions sooner he may have had a chance, by the time he started doing people it was to late and _ SOD came in giving them all a clean slate and found the same problems... A lot of those faces should have gone when they let down Millen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah because Baldock and Davies are awful players A slow, little bloke with no presence and an pisshead who played a max of 60 mins per game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggythecity Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 If you were a neutral who came along this season and watched Baldock, you would say yes to that part of the statement,. Do you not realise that Baldock is doing a job for the team...not what he his best at, the amount of space JET has suggests he is doing a good job.Del was unlucky that we couldnt afford/they wouldnt come the quality center backs he wanted so decided to buy strikers,that was his big mistake,had he had the same remit SOD had im sure he would done a better job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Do you not realise that Baldock is doing a job for the team...not what he his best at, the amount of space JET has suggests he is doing a good job.Del was unlucky that we couldnt afford/they wouldnt come the quality center backs he wanted so decided to buy strikers,that was his big mistake,had he had the same remit SOD had im sure he would done a better job Yeah. I've seen him mate. He chases after the ball, often is beaten to it by a faster defender. He challenges for a ball, doesn't win it. He gets the balls, loses it immediately because his "strike partner" is about 25 yards behind him by the touchline. Oh I've also seen him miss put clean through. Great job for the team yeah. You may as we'll play Terry my 55 year old neighbour if you it's want a bloke up front to take away a defender... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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