Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lostprophets-singer-ian-watkins-pleads-guilty-to-two-charges-of-attempting-to-rape-a-baby-8964029.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Dirty bastard Denied it for ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Sick **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Quite liked some of there Music. Sick**** hope he rots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'm not normally one for getting all Daily Mail and advocating the death penalty, but having read some of the details of this case (even just the heavily-edited stuff that a lot of media seem to be reporting) that belief is wavering. I'm not sure who's worse, him or the child's mother. Apparently when GCHQ were called in to crack the passwords on his computers, they found the password for one laptop was "if*ckkids" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Apparently when GCHQ were called in to crack the passwords on his computers, they found the password for one laptop was "if*ckkids" How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 It really is beyond my comprehension that someone could be that sick and twisted. Don't fancy his chances in prison much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 It puts it all into perspective. Oh sorry, wrong thread type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 How do you know that? It's been reported by several media outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 It's been reported by several media outlets. Yes and also just reported that they suspect that there more be a lot more victims, they have asked any to come forward. Don't worry about Red Dave, in his liberal world, he would give him a couple of aspirins and then put him in charge of a creche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Wow, for all that Jimmy Savile is the latter-day Be'elzebub even he wasn't as bad as that. There was a huge delay in bringing him in, is this the old celebrity culture still wielding its influence? Loads of reports made to police from 2010 onwards. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2514319/Ian-Watkins-ex-girlfriend-Joanne-Majic-I-warned-police-Lostprophets-singer-paedophile-4-years-ago.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Wow, for all that Jimmy Savile is the latter-day Be'elzebub even he wasn't as bad as that. There was a huge delay in bringing him in, is this the old celebrity culture still wielding its influence? Loads of reports made to police from 2010 onwards. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2514319/Ian-Watkins-ex-girlfriend-Joanne-Majic-I-warned-police-Lostprophets-singer-paedophile-4-years-ago.html Ain't that the truth, a great job of protecting the most vulnerable in society once more by a star struck OB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 EMB, I don't know what your problem is. I simply asked where the poster had heard that information as it wasmt mentioned in the three or four reports I read yesterday on the subject. Only you will understand your paranoia for the alternative view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 EMB, I don't know what your problem is. I simply asked where the poster had heard that information as it wasmt mentioned in the three or four reports I read yesterday on the subject. Only you will understand your paranoia for the alternative view. + this snide comment. It puts it all into perspective. Oh sorry, wrong thread type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Not snide. Just an attempt at humour which you obviously are too sensitive to appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Quite liked some of there Music. Sick **** hope he rots. First album was very good in parts, after that... rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Not snide. Just an attempt at humour which you obviously are too sensitive to appreciate. Just a father and grand father, who finds the whole idea of this repulsive. I am now 60 years old and if I hear "we must learn the lessons from this" once more i'll scream, I have heard that crap trotted out over the past 45 years after every similar case involving kids and some involving children dying and we are still learning FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Just a father and grand father, who finds the whole idea of this repulsive. I am now 60 years old and if I hear "we must learn the lessons from this" once more i'll scream, I have heard that crap trotted out over the past 45 years after every similar case involving kids and some involving children dying and we are still learning FFS. Couldn't agree more. My comment may appear crass but it was supposed to be a humorous take on the recent obsession for one to write 'it puts it all into perspective' without then changing ones behaviour. Nothing ever seems to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I've removed a few posts. If you wish to post about off topic things in a thread with such a horrendous subject, start a new thread. This thread rightly deserves to stay on topic. Personally I hope they put Watkins in a prison with no protection and he gets what he deserves. As for the women involved with this, I hope they get the book thrown at them as well, and should they ever be released, they are never allowed their own children again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Apparently Peaches Geldof named the women on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers-ran-away Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I bet he doesn't go into prison with everyone else they will have special wings for these cretins so they can be protected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 We were discussing this case at work this week and trying to guess the sentence he'll get. I think the sound money would be on life to serve a minimum tariff of 12 years. That'd be my (semi) educated guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 We were discussing this case at work this week and trying to guess the sentence he'll get. I think the sound money would be on life to serve a minimum tariff of 12 years. That'd be my (semi) educated guess. I think you might be right on that, however I suspect South Wales OB in an effort to regain public confidence will build another case ala Stuart Hall, now they have him incarcerated and this time no deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I think you might be right on that, however I suspect South Wales OB in an effort to regain public confidence will build another case ala Stuart Hall, now they have him incarcerated and this time no deals. They cant do that in the way you suggest. He has to get sentenced for what he pleaded to. That'll be next week or soonish anyway. They're looking for further victims, that's correct, but any further evidence will form a new case which will require a fresh judicial process and another appearance before a judge who would have the power to give him another tariff to either run concurrently (unlikely) or consecutively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 They cant do that in the way you suggest. He has to get sentenced for what he pleaded to. That'll be next week or soonish anyway. They're looking for further victims, that's correct, but any further evidence will form a new case which will require a fresh judicial process and another appearance before a judge who would have the power to give him another tariff to either run concurrently (unlikely) or consecutively. I thought that's what I said, it's certainly what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Apologies. I've just read the sentencing guidelines. I may well be reading the wrong but it looks to me that he's unlikely to get more than 13 years (for the att rape). The difference here though is that I would have thought that he'll be considered a dangerous offender which means that 13 years means 13 years. Not 6 and a half. What also goes against him is that he was originally charged with rape. The sentencing judge will know that and you'd have thought it'd be at the back of his mind when sentencing... At least you'd hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Apologies. I've just read the sentencing guidelines. I may well be reading the wrong but it looks to me that he's unlikely to get more than 13 years (for the att rape). The difference here though is that I would have thought that he'll be considered a dangerous offender which means that 13 years means 13 years. Not 6 and a half. What also goes against him is that he was originally charged with rape. The sentencing judge will know that and you'd have thought it'd be at the back of his mind when sentencing... At least you'd hope so. Exactly now they have him incarcerated or will have after sentencing next month, if they can charge him with rape this time there will be deals for a guilty plea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Exactly now they have him incarcerated or will have after sentencing next month, if they can charge him with rape this time there will be deals for a guilty plea. .....seems to me that Ian Watkins has very serious mental health issues. Life in a secure mental hospital would be appropriate for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Well if it makes any people feel any better, We all knows what happens to people like this in prison, one thing is for sure if it is just 13 years, it will be 13 years of hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I've removed a few posts. If you wish to post about off topic things in a thread with such a horrendous subject, start a new thread. This thread rightly deserves to stay on topic. Personally I hope they put Watkins in a prison with no protection and he gets what he deserves. As for the women involved with this, I hope they get the book thrown at them as well, and should they ever be released, they are never allowed their own children again. Dangerous to encourage the public to take the law into their own hands given recent events in Bristol... Ultimately we employ judges to be our representatives for justice in our society. I have faith that he will get a long prison sentence, the correct rehabilitation, and hopefully a lifetime in a mental home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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