Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 It is well worth remembering, that for many of those 27 years, our great leader, Dame Baroness Thatcher's Gold of Grantham, kept South Africa ticking over and bread on the table of every impoverished South African by keeping it "business as usual." A source of great encouragement and solace to the former terrorist (for which crimes, we have graciously forgiven him) as he remained locked up for so long. We can all recite from memories so rosy.. .....from our hearts and our souls this sour posey the things we thought we heard in our lives so cosey were they just a long lost memory...i supposee.............x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 It is amazing that so many people on this website can believe the official line on Mandela. He was a terrorist as is Mugabe of Zimbabwe. He would have been released at any time if he had rejected violence and stopped the killing of whites. Perhaps you could explain why Winnie Mandela necklaced so many African kids That was all just "a bit of singing and dancing." As one of our other great world statesmen put it, years ago. PW Botham, was it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Mugabe is a **** of the highest order.Yes, he and Mandela were allies before both took office.However, one took the path of vengeance and retribution. The other took the path of forgiveness and united his country.The two men cannot be compared. Mugabe was a "good" guy, who changed into a baddie. Mandela, the other way round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 It is amazing that so many people on this website can believe the official line on Mandela. He was a terrorist as is Mugabe of Zimbabwe. He would have been released at any time if he had rejected violence and stopped the killing of whites. Perhaps you could explain why Winnie Mandela necklaced so many African kids I think you need to step back a bit,go and read your history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Mods, can you move this to the non football forum please. Just a joke. Calm down. But his house is just behind the Dolman Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 The club would like to announce that Mr Keith Dawe will make an official statement on this momentous loss, in a hastily arranged press conference in Keith's conservatory, at 11.30 pm. The statement will include the club's plan to hold a 27 minute silence, to mark Nelson Mandela's long imprisonment on Robin Island, at the next home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Wookey, I'm sure you would be more than happy to be treated as a second class person, I'm sure you would just sit on your hands and do nothing about it. Some people won't accept injustice, some people have the balls to stand up to terrible wrongs. I presume you think that Apartheid was a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 It is amazing that so many people on this website can believe the official line on Mandela. He was a terrorist as is Mugabe of Zimbabwe. He would have been released at any time if he had rejected violence and stopped the killing of whites. Perhaps you could explain why Winnie Mandela necklaced so many African kids A terrorist you say. In the same way the French resistance were "terrorists" perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 R.I.P. a trustworthy politician very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Mugabe is a **** of the highest order. Yes, he and Mandela were allies before both took office. However, one took the path of vengeance and retribution. The other took the path of forgiveness and united his country. The two men cannot be compared. If you were a black South African at the time of apartheid, and you were treated like utter s..., weren't allowed to vote, own property or get a decent education because of your race what would you do? If you had to resort to violence to lead a normal life because nothing else would work would you? They did what they did because they wanted something better that would not come any other way for them, they fought for, and got change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Myself, personally, "I've never met a nice South Afrikaan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 If you were a black South African at the time of apartheid, and you were treated like utter s..., weren't allowed to vote, own property or get a decent education because of your race what would you do? If you had to resort to violence to lead a normal life because nothing else would work would you? They did what they did because they wanted something better that would not come any other way for them, they fought for, and got change.I suggest you read my post above.You are trying to start an argument with the wrong man, pal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 If you were a black South African at the time of apartheid, and you were treated like utter s..., weren't allowed to vote, own property or get a decent education because of your race what would you do? If you had to resort to violence to lead a normal life because nothing else would work would you? They did what they did because they wanted something better that would not come any other way for them, they fought for, and got change. Bless you...great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Myself, personally, "I've never met a nice South Afrikaan." What am I on about? Mike Proctor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Myself, personally, "I've never met a nice South Afrikaan." "And that's not bloody surprising man, because there a bunch of arrogant bastards who hate black people" Bring back spitting image! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 "And that's not bloody surprising man, because there a bunch of arrogant bastards who hate black people" Bring back spitting image! Whoa there tiger tiger burning bright.........hate eats the soul, dont feed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 "And that's not bloody surprising man, because there a bunch of arrogant bastards who hate black people" ! Steady on, Bill. We're trying to pay our respects here, to a reformed terrorist with poor judgement when it came to choosing shirts. A great man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Steady on, Bill. We're trying to pay our respects here, to a reformed terrorist with poor judgement when it came to choosing shirts. A great man Well spotted......shirts were on his "to do" list, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Isn't this better than fretting over Steve thingymebob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Well spotted......shirts were on his "to do" list, Yes. Still much left undone on that. Wasted too much of his life, imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Isn't this better than fretting over Steve thingymebob? How bloody dare you sir......apparently it's " COTTS " where did that come from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 and as for buttons.......oh yes i did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 How bloody dare you sir......apparently it's " COTTS " where did that come from ? Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Glad we're all in agreement. Incidentally, the end of the world on the east coast is now hardly a footnote in the news. Makes you realise that in this world of 24 hour headlines, everything is simply used to pad out the available time until something else comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Glad we're all in agreement. Incidentally, the end of the world on the east coast is now hardly a footnote in the news. Makes you realise that in this world of 24 hour headlines, everything is simply used to pad out the available time until something else comes along. Best way of saying " Work tomorrow " ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall King Blox Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Sorry. Granted.....yer on four pillars, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_bristol Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 We all know which one will be a hero to future generations. Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyolly Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 What rubbish. Mandela would have been released from prison the moment he rejected violence and he refused to do so. He preferred to carry on killing. So are martyrs created This has got to be the most crass and pathetic post I have ever read on here....and that really is saying something. I hope you wake up and realise what a complete and utter idiot you have made yourself out to be. I don't know whether to feel embarrassed for you or sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 A highly emotive topic and feelings will be no doubt alligned to ideology and political ideology. Mandela no doubt saw disgraceful, unjustifiable treatment during his reign... But from where I'm at during my time in life I don't condone a lot of his actions. Feelings run high on either side and I think for right now a lot are best left unsaid. Those detractors have their reasonable issues and those supporters their reasonable condolences. A man has lost his life and that alone is a tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Uneducated tosser. So why did you "like" his original post then? Perhaps you should "unlike" it!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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