Portland Bill Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 True enough for her to express "regret". I wonder if this peado organisation had any members employed by the BBC..... Thatchers yearly Xmas guest was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thatchers yearly Xmas guest was. who she pushed the knighthood for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 its in the daily mail therefore its 99% bullshit The Daily Mail hate women! They hate the BBC as well, and the labour party, and the lib dems, and animal rights activists, and working class people and people who live on council estates and people who claim benefits and people who went to state school... Is there anyone they do like?.. Oh yes, upper middle class, male, privatley educated tory voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 its in the daily mail therefore its 99% bullshit The Daily Mail hate women! They hate the BBC as well, and the labour party, and the lib dems, and animal rights activists, and working class people and people who live on council estates and people who claim benefits and people who went to state school... Is there anyone they do like?.. Oh yes, upper middle class, male, privatley educated tory voters Well she didn't fair well on the bbc, the mirror and the guardian agree with the DM stance, but as Elton John said sorry seems to be the hardest word, although she's shown regret for something but that's what everybody says when they get caught. Witch hunt? of course it is but she is running out of allies comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Well she didn't fair well on the bbc, the mirror and the guardian agree with the DM stance, but as Elton John said sorry seems to be the hardest word, although she's shown regret for something but that's what everybody says when they get caught. Witch hunt? of course it is but she is running out of allies comrade. tbh EBM, I don't like Harriot Harman I never have, but what the mail has published at best is a smear campaign and they should be sued to buggery for it and rightly so, That "paper" is a gossop column at best, it isn't balanced at all, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Well she didn't fair well on the bbc, the mirror and the guardian agree with the DM stance, but as Elton John said sorry seems to be the hardest word, although she's shown regret for something but that's what everybody says when they get caught. Witch hunt? of course it is but she is running out of allies comrade. How could she not "fair well" on the BBC,you and others keep telling me the BBC are ultra looney left,surely they told us viewers that the whole thing is a made up story? If not, I will be claiming right wing bias! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 tbh EBM, I don't like Harriot Harman I never have, but what the mail has published at best is a smear campaign and they should be sued to buggery for it and rightly so, That "paper" is a gossop column at best, it isn't balanced at all, and do you honestly believe that if she had a chance in hell of successfully suing that that would not have happened by now? or perhaps she knows it would make her position worse? or that is more to come out?, get real Monkeh, she could have a put a stop to this weeks ago by either saying sorry as her former colleagues at the nccl had the good grace to do or issuing a writ against the DM, but of course now she would have to include the bbc, the mirror and the guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 How could she not "fair well" on the BBC,you and others keep telling me the BBC are ultra looney left,surely they told us viewers that the whole thing is a made up story? If not, I will be claiming right wing bias! There you go again Bill making up stories like the DM journo's you hate so much, feel free to put a posting where I have claimed that the bbc are looney left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Perhaps Harman will resign and Dennis Skinner could step up as deputy leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Perhaps Harman will resign and Dennis Skinner could step up as deputy leader Never happen, he's a socialist isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 and do you honestly believe that if she had a chance in hell of successfully suing that that would not have happened by now? or perhaps she knows it would make her position worse? or that is more to come out?, get real Monkeh, she could have a put a stop to this weeks ago by either saying sorry as her former colleagues at the nccl had the good grace to do or issuing a writ against the DM, but of course now she would have to include the bbc, the mirror and the guardian. I don't know I'm not her legal experts but I do know not to believe first hand anything posted in the daily mail, I mean they portraded a dead man as hateing briton even though he faught for this country during the second world war and went to great lengths to try and get a reaction from the family in question during a funeral, that paper is tory bias gutter trash and not worth wiping my arse with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 There you go again Bill making up stories like the DM journo's you hate so much, feel free to put a posting where I have claimed that the bbc are looney left. Earlier a rant, now you have lost your sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Never happen, he's a socialist isn't he? True. Yes,and the best one you will find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I don't know I'm not her legal experts but I do know not to believe first hand anything posted in the daily mail, I mean they portraded a dead man as hateing briton even though he faught for this country during the second world war and went to great lengths to try and get a reaction from the family in question during a funeral, that paper is tory bias gutter trash and not worth wiping my arse with So the fact that they are using documents that are a matter of record and appear now to the support of the bbc who originally backed off of the story, the support of the mirror and the guardian, it can't be true because it appeared in the DM?, you are being naive my friend, she would have sued if she could have, i'm sure I would have and so would you if we were being accused of something that you believe is a total fabrication, especially anything to do with paedophilia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 So the fact that they are using documents that are a matter of record and appear now to the support of the bbc who originally backed off of the story, the support of the mirror and the guardian, it can't be true because it appeared in the DM?, you are being naive my friend, she would have sued if she could have, i'm sure I would have and so would you if we were being accused of something that you believe is a total fabrication, especially anything to do with paedophilia. Maybe because it isn't a story? The Mail carried these allegations in December and they have nothing new now. Harman didn't work for the NCCL affiliated PIE and she was not part of that decision making process. And I write as someone who has no time for HH or her brand of Nu Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Maybe because it isn't a story? The Mail carried these allegations in December and they have nothing new now. Harman didn't work for the NCCL affiliated PIE and she was not part of that decision making process. And I write as someone who has no time for HH or her brand of Nu Labour No she didn't but joined the nccl knowing they were affiliated and did nothing whatsoever to remove or attempt to remove them and if you can find any article prior to her leaving the nccl in 1983 where she distances herself from them your a better man than I gunga din, plus the group are referenced in paperwork she put her name to. and I repeat the bbc newsnight interview last night was a disaster for her (hence today's damage limitation) they were clearly not impressed and neither are the mirror or the guardian, who have backed the DM stance, she is running out of allies. Edit:- if there is blame for turning a non story into headline news then perhaps a look in the mirror (pun intended) might reveal who is to blame for that particular misjudgment, hoping it will go away doesn't work these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 No she didn't but joined the nccl knowing they were affiliated and did nothing whatsoever to remove or attempt to remove them and if you can find any article prior to her leaving the nccl in 1983 where she distances herself from them your a better man than I gunga din, plus the group are referenced in paperwork she put her name to. and I repeat the bbc newsnight interview last night was a disaster for her (hence today's damage limitation) they were clearly not impressed and neither are the mirror or the guardian, who have backed the DM stance, she is running out of allies. Edit:- if there is blame for turning a non story into headline news then perhaps a look in the mirror (pun intended) might reveal who is to blame for that particular misjudgment, hoping it will go away doesn't work these days. What would be more interesting and I haven't read anywhere is exactly what an affiliated organization. Some appear to have believed PIE was some sort of self-help group to wean men off their urges. Who set the link up and who on earth approved it and what investigations did they do. It just sounds like a sort of drippy, hippy set-up: "Oh you have a beef with the 'man' - well join our club and stick it to the fascists!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 What would be more interesting and I haven't read anywhere is exactly what an affiliated organization. Some appear to have believed PIE was some sort of self-help group to wean men off their urges. Who set the link up and who on earth approved it and what investigations did they do. It just sounds like a sort of drippy, hippy set-up: "Oh you have a beef with the 'man' - well join our club and stick it to the fascists!" I suspect you are correct, on her newsnight train wreck, she claimed something along the lines of 'you apply, you pay your fee, you join, anybody could join and there was no mechanism to expel', which seems to me to be a cop out considering her and hubby are trying to convince the world at large how hard they fought to make sure this group got nothing from the affiliation (but as I said I can't find that evidence) . Had she appended her name to the nccl 'sorry', this would have died a death by now, unless of course there is more and she knows there is. This is interesting, Tom Watson seems like an interesting and honest MP with at least some morals. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567999/Labour-MP-calls-probe-state-cash-Paedophile-Information-Exchange-claims-files-prove-received-taxpayers-money-shredded.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I suspect you are correct, on her newsnight train wreck, she claimed something along the lines of 'you apply, you pay your fee, you join, anybody could join and there was no mechanism to expel', which seems to me to be a cop out considering her and hubby are trying to convince the world at large how hard they fought to make sure this group got nothing from the affiliation (but as I said I can't find that evidence) . Had she appended her name to the nccl 'sorry', this would have died a death by now, unless of course there is more and she knows there is. This is interesting, Tom Watson seems like an interesting and honest MP with at least some morals. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567999/Labour-MP-calls-probe-state-cash-Paedophile-Information-Exchange-claims-files-prove-received-taxpayers-money-shredded.html the problem is this group became and affilate before HH joined NCCL she would of had no say in it so why should she appolgise for the link between the two? Its like asking a cashier in a BP petrol station to appolgise for the oil spill off the gulf of mexico, complete and utter smear campagin from a gutter trash paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 the problem is this group became and affilate before HH joined NCCL she would of had no say in it so why should she appolgise for the link between the two? Its like asking a cashier in a BP petrol station to appolgise for the oil spill off the gulf of mexico, complete and utter smear campagin from a gutter trash paper and as the the nccl legal representative after she did join, she or her husband (who was there at the time they joined) or Hewitt did nothing to try kick this group out, she put her name on documents that were used to lobby on behalf of this group's views and there is nothing on record of her at anytime distancing herself from this group and now it might even (according to a labour MP) turn out that this group was actually at one time in receipt of government money and perhaps that is why she has been so silent over this mess, but hey let's just sweep it under the carpet for the sake of party politics, well at least Tom Watson labour MP appears to have some morals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 So the fact that they are using documents that are a matter of record and appear now to the support of the bbc who originally backed off of the story, the support of the mirror and the guardian, it can't be true because it appeared in the DM?, you are being naive my friend, she would have sued if she could have, i'm sure I would have and so would you if we were being accused of something that you believe is a total fabrication, especially anything to do with paedophilia. I think you're the one being naive. Going down the route of litigation would simply bring yet more publicity to the story, drag it out and not simply make it "go away". I'm absolutely sure she's been advised not to go down this route, same as Ed Milliband and the bull they wrote about his father last year. It really ain't worth the considerable hassle of going through the courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I think you're the one being naive. Going down the route of litigation would simply bring yet more publicity to the story, drag it out and not simply make it "go away". I'm absolutely sure she's been advised not to go down this route, same as Ed Milliband and the bull they wrote about his father last year. It really ain't worth the considerable hassle of going through the courts. Well that's worked then hasn't it?, a story that first surfaced in november and still rumbling on, when you find out who her legal representatives are let me know, oh hang on she's another new labour failed solicitor isn't she?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Well that's worked then hasn't it?, a story that first surfaced in november and still rumbling on, when you find out who her legal representatives are let me know, oh hang on she's another new labour failed solicitor isn't she?. what has she actually done wrong? Refuse to say sorry for something she had no say in? I would like you to appolgise to me over the delays at the french end of the channel tunnel because you live in france therefore it must be your fault, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 what has she actually done wrong? Refuse to say sorry for something she had no say in? I would like you to appolgise to me over the delays at the french end of the channel tunnel because you live in france therefore it must be your fault, Why not ask your fellow comrades in the mirror and the guardian and even the bbc, because they think their are unanswered questions, but hey what do they know? obviously a lot less than you and I. PS:- I would like to to apologise unreservedly for the delays at the french end of the channel tunnel, because I live in france, it is my fault, so i'm sorry, well i've held up my end of the bargain. I only do it to stop the influx into Britain of the hordes of french entrepreneurs escaping another useless socialist government taxing them at 75% and led by president stud muffin Hollande, who actually makes Gordon Brown appear competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Well she didn't fair well on the bbc, the mirror and the guardian agree with the DM stance, but as Elton John said sorry seems to be the hardest word, although she's shown regret for something but that's what everybody says when they get caught. Witch hunt? of course it is but she is running out of allies comrade. The best description of Harperson, to date, on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I only do it to stop the influx into Britain of the hordes of french entrepreneurs escaping another useless socialist government taxing them at 75% and led by president stud muffin Hollande, who actually makes Gordon Brown appear competent. Nothing to stop you coming back and living under our wonderful caring government Esmond? Or is it actually nice to live in a country where Socialist rule. I'm coming over again in August,France knocks spots off this shithole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Nothing to stop you coming back and living under our wonderful caring government Esmond? Or is it actually nice to live in a country where Socialist rule. I'm coming over again in August,France knocks spots off this shithole. Where you going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Nothing to stop you coming back and living under our wonderful caring government Esmond? Or is it actually nice to live in a country where Socialist rule. I'm coming over again in August,France knocks spots off this shithole. Haha you're on a different planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Haha you're on a different planet Nah, he'll feel at home here it's like the early 70's over here, somebody is on strike every day of the week and the french workforce is the most pampered workforce in the world, WTF they have to strike is beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Where you going? Vendee,Saint Julien Des Landes, went to the same place last year. Fantastic area,place and people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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