WhistleHappy Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I was once in Bath Rugby bar when some drunk tried telling Gareth Chilcott what he had done wrong during the match. Chilcott grabed hold of his neck, lifted him off the floor, and carried on talking as though nothing had happened. Hmm, do we really want to encourage this kind of thing down at the Shed End Arena? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Hmm, do we really want to encourage this kind of thing down at the Shed End Arena?This was definitely not PC and wouldn't be allowed, but it was hilarious. (Except for the drunk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 It happens throughout non-league, I don't know at what point it stops happening - whether its a club by club decision or one made by the leagues. I know in Western League / Southern League clubs are fined if they do not enter the club house / bar and have food. You cant compare Rugby fans/players to football as a broad comparison. There's some good and bad from both sports. Same thing happens in football. You can be worst enemies with a guy for 90 minutes, but 99/100 at the final whistle you'll find that player, shake his hand and have a laugh about it. Fully agree about the referee respect thing. As a captain I'll always try and approach the Ref in a respectful manner but sometimes you do get frustrated. I don't play or watch enough Rugby but it seems to be, other than using the video ref, decisions are a lot more clear cut. IMO the rules are the rules, where as football seems to come down to perception and opinion. Couple that with a faster paced game and a lack of consistency from one game to the next and you can start to understand where frustration kicks in. Also, referee's can be just as bad in how they act and speak to players. Respect should be earned by both parties. I'm sure that it does happen in football. I can only go off of my own experience but it's much more friendlier in rugby than football post match. Rugby is also down to ref's interpretation, and the laws keep changing. ie, making a tackle, releasing the player then going for the ball again. Before each game, I ask the ref how obvious I have to make it that I've released him before I can ruck for the ball. Some say touch each knee first, others say raise hands above waist, others say as long as you move away it's fine. Each ref their own interpretation and it's down to the players to adapt to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinkadink Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Indeed, pro teams have training sessions that focus on the individual referee and his interpretations for an upcoming match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Interesting comments...and very honest. Sadly it's all true. Football fans in this country are treated like animals because quiet a few lack social skills. I go to the Rugby quiet often. Every ground I've been too has a couple players interviewed in the bar pre match and post match. Everyone is civil...there maybe some banter...but never anything offensive. Everyone enjoying a few pints on the terraces and in the stands during the match too. We used to sponser a player at one of the Prem Clubs...he used to sit post and pre match at our table and talk Rugby and anything else come to think of it. All the players did this with whoever sponsored them. They would all also have a post match meal in the bar area together. Every fan left them alone...then after their meal would socialise and sign autographs for the kids. Shame football can't be the same, as you really get to know the players and staff and a better insight into the sport. One of the biggest things that sticks in my mind, is that the players all said that through out the season, the majority played never 100% fit...all carrying injuries because of the big hits they take. Ever been to a Bath v Gloucester game, Spud? Civil is not a term I would employ for the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Before each game, I ask the ref how obvious I have to make it that I've released him before I can ruck for the ball. Some say touch each knee first, others say raise hands above waist, others say as long as you move away it's fine. Each ref their own interpretation and it's down to the players to adapt to them. Interpretation of the rules is less of a problem in football but you've highlighted a good point - i.e, talking to the ref. If football managers and players had a better dialogue with the refs a lot of the problems would be reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I'm sure that it does happen in football. I can only go off of my own experience but it's much more friendlier in rugby than football post match. Rugby is also down to ref's interpretation, and the laws keep changing. ie, making a tackle, releasing the player then going for the ball again. Before each game, I ask the ref how obvious I have to make it that I've released him before I can ruck for the ball. Some say touch each knee first, others say raise hands above waist, others say as long as you move away it's fine. Each ref their own interpretation and it's down to the players to adapt to them. Fair enough my mistake then, I've got that completely wrong. I still agree with your original point about the way refs are treated and it needs sorting in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Upper class twits.egg chasers. Gareth Chilcott upper class? Get real! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ever been to a Bath v Gloucester game, Spud? Civil is not a term I would employ for the atmosphere. Gloucester are the exception to the rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Ever been to a Bath v Gloucester game, Spud? Civil is not a term I would employ for the atmosphere. I have...and it is an exception to the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Gareth Chilcott upper class? Get real! Well he sits in the posh seats at AG now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1970 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Gareth Chilcott upper class? Get real! There are some upper class in Southville you know. After all, it is the poor man's Clifton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 There are some upper class in Southville you know. After all, it is the poor man's Clifton. They're not upper class, they're up their asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 They're not upper class, they're up their asses. ....that's quite a talent, perhaps the good folk of, erm, Lower Clifton should join a circus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Agree with OP that it would be nice if it were to happen - for those that wanted it. Doesn't bother me though. I wouldn't have the patience to get past the iPhone and headphones before having to listen to inane mumblings of "yeah, no. I mean, yeah for sure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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