Cap flinger Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 So I'm guessing most of you have seen his punches on the Kiwi chap in the game of egg chasing. A mate of mine did something similar in local football and got 120 hour community service. So my question is how can these professional role models escape the law ? Surely they should face the same punishment as members of public, let's face it if you did that in a boozer on a Saturday night you would be spending a night in the cells and a day in court! Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Ye this is football....chip on egg chaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap flinger Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Ye this is football....chip on egg chaser swap egg chasing for football and the question still stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The pub analogy doesn't really apply because you wouldn't spend 80 mins banging into and wrestling everyone to the ground in a pub on a Saturday night. The fact that you do just that in rugby league and also the physicality involved means that the odd punch is bound to be thrown, so criminal proceedings should never be called for in sport. In the same way that you wouldn't call the police to arrest two boxers in a ring. Having said that, the tap he gave him when he was on the ground was uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Always amazed that the precedent set when Duncan Ferguson was jailed has never really been utilised. Thuggery like that should come with jail time. excuses like, 'it's rugby' just don't wash either. What a vile man who clearly lacks self control. on a side note, Up the Saints!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Should be banged up. First punch was bad enough. 2nd one on someone that cannot defend themselves is so wrong. Custodial sentence needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 It was shocking The saints player play acting to get an opponent sent off You wont see that on a football pitch Players like Ronaldo Drogba and any other footballer would have just got straight back up and got on with the game!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap flinger Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The pub analogy doesn't really apply because you wouldn't spend 80 mins banging into and wrestling everyone to the ground in a pub on a Saturday night. The fact that you do just that in rugby league and also the physicality involved means that the odd punch is bound to be thrown, so criminal proceedings should never be called for in sport. In the same way that you wouldn't call the police to arrest two boxers in a ring. Having said that, the tap he gave him when he was on the ground was uncalled for.sorry but rugby and boxing are not the same sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The pub analogy doesn't really apply because you wouldn't spend 80 mins banging into and wrestling everyone to the ground in a pub on a Saturday night.The fact that you do just that in rugby league and also the physicality involved means that the odd punch is bound to be thrown, so criminal proceedings should never be called for in sport. In the same way that you wouldn't call the police to arrest two boxers in a ring. Having said that, the tap he gave him when he was on the ground was uncalled for. Yeah the odd punch, not when the guy is already been sparked out and he punches him yet again square in the nose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 It's called self control...and abiding by the rules, and having respect for an opponent or individual...that's what makes us different from animals. Live life by rules put in place, and respect one another. If you don't like the rules....avoid. If someone gets injured in Sport and it's within the rules and nothing is malicious then there is nothing wrong. If you killed someone in boxing by punching their lights out...it's very sad, but part and parcel of the game. If you kick someone going for the ball in football and they die from their injury (it's happened...see angel of death on youtube) it's an accident...and sad. But if you kill someone in sport or injure them severely by not abiding by the rules or being malicious, then imho...you should come under the same jurisdiction as the public and it's laws and rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 It was pretty incredible (and grim) to watch. I guess my two thoughts were: a) seeing a genuine act of a violence like that shows up the petty scrapping, rolling around and handbags you get in football for what it is - i.e. a bit tawdry and embarrassing for all concerned. b) the fact it's a physical sport should make no difference - what happened there was a full-on assault. From the sounds of it the guy who got punched is willing to forgive and move on so fair enough but he'd be well within his rights to ask the police to press charges... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 The pub analogy doesn't really apply because you wouldn't spend 80 mins banging into and wrestling everyone to the ground in a pub on a Saturday night. You've never been to kingswood then........and that's just the women! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hoihoia went in with his forearm, so I don't have a lot of sympathy for the first punch. The second was disgraceful though and the fact it was a grand final makes Flower a double moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Truly shocking. Interesting that all the pundits think for some reason if it was just the first punch he would of just got a yellow card?! Totally unforgivable hitting a bloke when he is out cold. Should be sacked by Wigan and banned for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Unlike football rugby league is still played by ruffty tufty types. Deal with it and move on. No need to make a knee trembling trifle out of it. Sent off and sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap flinger Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Truly shocking. Interesting that all the pundits think for some reason if it was just the first punch he would of just got a yellow card?! Totally unforgivable hitting a bloke when he is out cold. Should be sacked by Wigan and banned for life.interesting point, technically he is at work, if i knock someone out in work I would get sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Couldn't give two shits if its rugby or a street fight, whacking someone in the face when they're out cold on the floor is the act of a cowardly pussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Look at both players reactions. Different blokes. If only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Yeah the odd punch, not when the guy is already been sparked out and he punches him yet again square in the nose.... I did say that the one on the ground when he was already out was not really on - it was also pointless as he was out cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 You've never been to kingswood then........and that's just the women! I did go there once and ironically most of the women looked like Ben Flower.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Look at both players reactions. Different blokes. If only... Reading what the St Helens player had to say about it, I think his overriding emotion is that he was gutted he got knocked out, rather than being bitter about missing the rest of the final. Definitely different blokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Had it been in the 60th minute following some hard tackles I could kind of understand it. But this was the 2nd minute with little happening. it was cowardly and needless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Always amazed that the precedent set when Duncan Ferguson was jailed has never really been utilised. Thuggery like that should come with jail time. excuses like, 'it's rugby' just don't wash either. What a vile man who clearly lacks self control. on a side note, Up the Saints!! Christ, I agree with you !! Nurse ............ ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Christ, I agree with you !! Nurse ............ ?! Spot on. I don't get how everybody buys the rugby hypocrisy. They're jolly polite to the ref so it's ok if they try to cripple each other, gouge eyes etc. Horrible sport ( both codes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hoihoia went in with his forearm, so I don't have a lot of sympathy for the first punch. The second was disgraceful though and the fact it was a grand final makes Flower a double moron Agreed. He'd probably get away with a sin-binning for the first punch on the grounds of justified retaliation. The second one was an absolute ****'s trick and he'll deserve whatever he gets by way of punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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