Malago Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 It seems the Media is getting itself in quite a lather about the anti IRA chants of our supporters (England's) at last night's game. Personally, I can't see such chants are relevant to a football game between England and Scotland. It would have been much more apposite to sing anti SNP songs imo. That said only two organisations bombed England in general, and Bristol in particular, in the 20th century; Nazi Germany and the IRA. I would therefore defend the right to sing such songs. Thoughts? Or do we not give a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten minutes of rough Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 It seems the Media is getting itself in quite a lather about the anti IRA chants of our supporters (England's) at last night's game.Personally, I can't see such chants are relevant to a football game between England and Scotland. It would have been much more apposite to sing anti SNP songs imo. That said only two organisations bombed England in general, and Bristol in particular, in the 20th century; Nazi Germany and the IRA. I would therefore defend the right to sing such songs. Thoughts? Or do we not give a ****. Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Irish Celtic fans wouldn't have been there so the idiots were singing to nobody. Lack of brain cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Irish Celtic fans wouldn't have been there so the idiots were singing to nobody. Lack of brain cells. But they were singing it in a ground where there is a massive love in for that particular terrorist organisation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 But they were singing it in a ground where there is a massive love in for that particular terrorist organisation Oh so they were singing it to the seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Reminds me of being at a City game at Wrexham a few years back, and amongst the usual anti-Welsh stuff, there was a chorus of "no surrender to the IRA" Christ knows why? IRA chants aside, I actually thought last night was one of the more amusing England away supports of recent times. Normally the stuff they chant/sing is repetitive and dull at best, but "You're British till you die" and "Are you Scotland in disguise?" were pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Half of the morons that sing about it haven't a clue what it's all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 It seems the Media is getting itself in quite a lather about the anti IRA chants of our supporters (England's) at last night's game. Personally, I can't see such chants are relevant to a football game between England and Scotland. It would have been much more apposite to sing anti SNP songs imo. That said only two organisations bombed England in general, and Bristol in particular, in the 20th century; Nazi Germany and the IRA. I would therefore defend the right to sing such songs. Thoughts? Or do we not give a ****. It seems the Media is getting itself in quite a lather about the anti IRA chants of our supporters (England's) at last night's game. Personally, I can't see such chants are relevant to a football game between England and Scotland. It would have been much more apposite to sing anti SNP songs imo. That said only two organisations bombed England in general, and Bristol in particular, in the 20th century; Nazi Germany and the IRA. I would therefore defend the right to sing such songs. Thoughts? Or do we not give a ****. Don't see what the press are getting in a tizz about to be honest. Celtic sing pro IRA songs without the same media storm and Muslims are free to sing, chant and display placards about killing British soldiers. Whats the difference here? Songs denouncing and ridiculing a terrorist organisation...don't know why anyone would get upset about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Reid Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Oh so they were singing it to the seats? This was my thoughts, hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 So no Sottish born Celtic supporters sing pro IRA songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Oh so they were singing it to the seats?And we sing about the gas every home game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 So no Sottish born Celtic supporters sing pro IRA songs? I go to a lot of Celtic games, you won't hear any IRA songs -the majority of which btw, are about the IRA of 1916, and not the pub bombing Provos- at Celtic Park, the old chairman Fergus McCann banned them years ago. You will hear a couple at away games, but surprise, surprise, if you chat to Celtic fans in the pubs before games you will find yourself having a chat about football and not Irish political history. The point Red Dave was trying to make is that the huge majority of Celtic fans who sing such songs, would have been at Celtic Park the previous Friday cheering on Ireland, and not there Tuesday cheering on Scotland. The England fans were chanting anti IRA songs at Scotland fans who probably had similar sympathies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I go to a lot of Celtic games, you won't hear any IRA songs -the majority of which btw, are about the IRA of 1916, and not the pub bombing Provos- at Celtic Park, the old chairman Fergus McCann banned them years ago. You will hear a couple at away games, but surprise, surprise, if you chat to Celtic fans in the pubs before games you will find yourself having a chat about football and not Irish political history. The point Red Dave was trying to make is that the huge majority of Celtic fans who sing such songs, would have been at Celtic Park the previous Friday cheering on Ireland, and not there Tuesday cheering on Scotland. The England fans were chanting anti IRA songs at Scotland fans who probably had similar sympathies! Yes, there's a time and a place and that wasn't it. Anti-SNP songs (are there any?) would have been inappropriate too given the majority voted for Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Political correctness shock horror..its OK to demonstrate pro terrorism as we are a free democracy. It is not acceptable to demonstrate anti terrorism. Confused again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 There were a few Celtic tops sitting very close to the England end and I think that fanned the flames a little to be honest. Don't see what the fuss is about to be honest. If it was all Scots in the stadium then who was offended? I'd defend anyones right to sing "f#ck the IRA". I can see the outrage now when it happens in Dublin next summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckle_red Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Celtic do sing pro IRA chants, in fact they even boast about it on social media and YouTube. That's why nobody likes them, it's amazing how they sing those songs with no hassle or consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Celtic do sing pro IRA chants, in fact they even boast about it on social media and YouTube. That's why nobody likes them, it's amazing how they sing those songs with no hassle or consequences. They won't mind if their family is caught up in their indiscriminate action one day then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 The lad in the front row with a celtic top on right in the front corner close to the away fans who was doing the double handed bird seemed to take exception to it until the steward sat next to him after the first 20 minutes. Not saying i agree with the chant and did not join in with that particular one but we have all been to games where the opposition fans bait each other. This is what helps create the atmosphere and it was quality Tuesday night not for the faint hearted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 A lot of the fans cheering for Scotland would have been Rangers fans who are far more ardent anti-IRA than any person in the away end. Then a lot of the rest would have in all likelihood have been pro British. So it was a bit like singing anti England songs to Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 The England fans were chanting anti IRA songs at Scotland fans who probably had similar sympathies! I was at the game and felt that it was an ill judged song for that exact reason. Not saying i agree with the chant and did not join in with that particular one but we have all been to games where the opposition fans bait each other. This is what helps create the atmosphere and it was quality Tuesday night not for the faint hearted. Whether or not one agrees with the ant-IRA song, have to agree, the atmosphere created by the England fans was first class. I expected - and wanted - an intimidating atmosphere from the Scots in and out of the ground, and was surprised that it was nothing of the kind. The venom came entirely from the English, with some humour ("British till you die" and "are you Scotland in disguise") thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aussie Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have always wondered to be honest if Scotland played Ireland who would Scottish born Celtic fans want to win? Take Malky Mackay or Kenny Dalgleish as random examples. Why would they not want Scotland to win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have been to a few old firm games going back to the mid eighties i believe Scotland has moved on a fair bit since then and was also surprised by the lack of atmosphere from Scotland. Spoke to some jocks after the game i asked which Scottish team they supported their answer was whoever is playing Celtic or Rangers. They thought the Ireland game took it out of them. There are a lot more jocks who support other teams rather than the big 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Most Celtic fans associate with Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have always wondered to be honest if Scotland played Ireland who would Scottish born Celtic fans want to win? Take Malky Mackay or Kenny Dalgleish as random examples. Why would they not want Scotland to win? Well, Kenny Dalglish is a Rangers fan for a start....http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kenny-dalglish-life-rangers-link-2294761 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Most Celtic fans associate with Scotland. There was a survey in the Celtic View about 4 or 5 years ago that suggested only 16% followed Scotland, and a sizeable majority supported Ireland. Obviously surveys depend entirely who you ask, as I said earlier, I watch Celtic a fair bit, and from my own personal experience all I can add is that what tends to get discussed in the pubs on match days ,isn't Irish politics or who you would support in international football , it is the lack of a good striker, how shit the board are, the price of beer- in fact, pretty much whatever you heard discussed by fans of any club all over the UK. Honestly, Celtic fans are normal human beings Just like us Gasheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 There was a survey in the Celtic View about 4 or 5 years ago that suggested only 16% followed Scotland, and a sizeable majority supported Ireland. Obviously surveys depend entirely who you ask, as I said earlier, I watch Celtic a fair bit, and from my own personal experience all I can add is that what tends to get discussed in the pubs on match days ,isn't Irish politics or who you would support in international football , it is the lack of a good striker, how shit the board are, the price of beer- in fact, pretty much whatever you heard discussed by fans of any club all over the UK. Honestly, Celtic fans are normal human beings Just like us Gasheads You're on a hiding to nothing as a Celtic-sympathising gashead on here. Not sure about gasheads being normal human beings though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 There was a survey in the Celtic View about 4 or 5 years ago that suggested only 16% followed Scotland, and a sizeable majority supported Ireland. Obviously surveys depend entirely who you ask, as I said earlier, I watch Celtic a fair bit, and from my own personal experience all I can add is that what tends to get discussed in the pubs on match days ,isn't Irish politics or who you would support in international football , it is the lack of a good striker, how shit the board are, the price of beer- in fact, pretty much whatever you heard discussed by fans of any club all over the UK. Honestly, Celtic fans are normal human beings Just like us Gasheads My experience of celtic park is a team followed by scots who are now mostly 3rd/4th/5th generation irish so now call themselves scots. 99% of celtic fans are lovely folk. Just some are too blind to see that football and polotics are different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 There was a survey in the Celtic View about 4 or 5 years ago that suggested only 16% followed Scotland, and a sizeable majority supported Ireland. Obviously surveys depend entirely who you ask, as I said earlier, I watch Celtic a fair bit, and from my own personal experience all I can add is that what tends to get discussed in the pubs on match days ,isn't Irish politics or who you would support in international football , it is the lack of a good striker, how shit the board are, the price of beer- in fact, pretty much whatever you heard discussed by fans of any club all over the UK. Honestly, Celtic fans are normal human beings Just like us Gasheads I hear you mate, but when I see those huge anti poppy banners.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 You're on a hiding to nothing as a Celtic-sympathising gashead on here. Not sure about gasheads being normal human beings though... Human beings yes probably, but normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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